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Yesterday's broadcast has had its issues. We all saw it. There are 10+ pages of whining. There is an entirely new cast going on now. Please keep whining about issues experienced yesterday to yourself going forward in the thread and allow other people to enjoy the games.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
April 18 2011 01:14 GMT
#241
On April 18 2011 10:13 bean183 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 10:12 bwally wrote:
Spanishiwa spoiled the result on his stream by accident, so yes anyone posting it is an idiot.


how did he find out the results?
how does anyone find out the results before hand.. is someone leaking or is it match history or what



Anybody can look at results for a tournament pretty easily by looking at match histories.
#1 Kwanro Fan
cryostasis
Profile Joined June 2010
United States38 Posts
April 18 2011 01:14 GMT
#242
Jesus Christ, how many more times does Geoff need to apologize for Idra losing?
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
April 18 2011 01:14 GMT
#243
damnit... idra did the right things too and still got stomped... from now on if i see that im going to throw down like 7 spines
Gretorp
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States586 Posts
April 18 2011 01:14 GMT
#244
On April 18 2011 10:10 Warrice wrote:
so frustrating hearing gretorp be like " idra fell right into his hands" when he scouted it at the first possible moment he could have and it cancelled everything and put down 4 spines and started spamming units. what else could he have done.
if he didnt take the fast third he wouldv lost the macro game.


not expand, how can you say otherwise. the way you say it assumes the build order socke did was unstoppable for any zerg.
I am Unheard Change
Belegurth
Profile Joined November 2010
165 Posts
April 18 2011 01:14 GMT
#245
dat idra picture!
On March 02 2011 11:23 awu25 wrote: i don't think it's a marketing thing most koreans wouldn't be able to pronounce flash, jaedong, or mvp, i think that's why their korean names are used
Elean
Profile Joined October 2010
689 Posts
April 18 2011 01:14 GMT
#246
On April 18 2011 10:11 Sfydjklm wrote:
How is it hard to scout that its a fake nexus? Count the sentries?

You are smart, how can the zerg tell how many sentries there are in protoss main ?
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
April 18 2011 01:14 GMT
#247
But Socke didn't cheese like MC...
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
April 18 2011 01:14 GMT
#248
On April 18 2011 10:13 Dawn11 wrote:
stop crying about balance already...if idra puts ONE spinecrawler there before the oh so fearsome timing attack, he couldve held it...


Yea not like he dropped down 4 or anything

Swixi
Profile Joined August 2010
United States73 Posts
April 18 2011 01:14 GMT
#249
On April 18 2011 10:11 ReTr0[p.S] wrote:
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On April 18 2011 10:10 Pekkz wrote:
Any player with 50 apm can execute that build and win against pro's. Idra should have used his drones though, would maby have hold it then.

Prove it please, it's harder than it looks...

Not sure how that build is harder than it looks. From what I saw, Socke literally just did a build order without really scouting at all, and then at the moment he canceled his Nexus, he A-moved and won. You could easily train someone to do that - there was little game knowledge or intuition used; it's just an MC copycat build.
TwentyOneJN
Profile Joined October 2010
United States56 Posts
April 18 2011 01:14 GMT
#250
On April 18 2011 10:12 AlBundy wrote:
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On April 18 2011 10:11 Dali. wrote:
I don't think many would gg in that situation. Such a depressing play.

Well the strategy was a success, and the execution was good, so in my opinion Socke deserved a GG


I agree, everyone else gg's even if they get cannon'd rush.
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
April 18 2011 01:15 GMT
#251
On April 18 2011 10:13 Dawn11 wrote:
stop crying about balance already...if idra puts ONE spinecrawler there before the oh so fearsome timing attack, he couldve held it...


Lmao, one spine crawler doesn't hold off that push dude.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 18 2011 01:15 GMT
#252
On April 18 2011 10:13 Ezekyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 10:11 Sfydjklm wrote:
How is it hard to scout that its a fake nexus? Count the sentries?


The extra 2 gateways only came online when the nexus was cancelled. Until he cancelled the nexus, Socke had exactly the same army composition as a standard 3gate expand. The only way to scout this build is to get inside the Protoss player's base and see the additional gateways.


Yes, and it's not like Socke had to all-in just because he built those gateways, either, he could let them and the nexus finish, or let the nexus finish and cancel 1-2 gates.
imareaver3
Profile Joined June 2010
United States906 Posts
April 18 2011 01:15 GMT
#253
On April 18 2011 10:14 Bosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 10:13 bean183 wrote:
On April 18 2011 10:12 bwally wrote:
Spanishiwa spoiled the result on his stream by accident, so yes anyone posting it is an idiot.


how did he find out the results?
how does anyone find out the results before hand.. is someone leaking or is it match history or what



Anybody can look at results for a tournament pretty easily by looking at match histories.


Tournaments use guest/smurf accounts, I think? TSL does, at least.
sanya
Profile Joined February 2011
482 Posts
April 18 2011 01:15 GMT
#254
socke deserved win
idra will still win the match if he pulls himself together though
If wishes were fishes , we'd all cast nets.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 18 2011 01:15 GMT
#255
On April 18 2011 10:13 Ezekyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 10:11 Sfydjklm wrote:
How is it hard to scout that its a fake nexus? Count the sentries?


The extra 2 gateways only came online when the nexus was cancelled. Until he cancelled the nexus, Socke had exactly the same army composition as a standard 3gate expand. The only way to scout this build is to get inside the Protoss player's base and see the additional gateways.

Normal 3 gate expand has about 6-7 sentries in it otherwise it dies to mass speedling. The same very speedling you need to defend 4 gate.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
April 18 2011 01:15 GMT
#256
On April 18 2011 10:12 landmarktiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 09:54 DirtYLOu wrote:
BoxeR playing today with Huge delay, where Drewbie with almost no delay( EU SERVER ) :/

We won't see another Sen vs BoxeR :/


Yeah specially since Boxers game is based heavily on micro and unit control. He isnt really known for his macro. Poor boxer i feel bad for him.


Lately Boxer's macro has improved tremendously though. knowing he will be playing with lag, he will most likely rely more on macro builds and attempt to win through sheer numbers.
kagemucha
Profile Joined August 2010
United States326 Posts
April 18 2011 01:15 GMT
#257
Decided to use chrome today to "help esports" and I think NASL really needs to fix their ads to NOT interfere with actually commentary/gameplay. Commercials don't start until like 15 seconds after the "break" occurs. When the stream comes back on, the players are already in the game. Disappointing
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 18 2011 01:15 GMT
#258
On April 18 2011 10:14 Bosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 10:13 bean183 wrote:
On April 18 2011 10:12 bwally wrote:
Spanishiwa spoiled the result on his stream by accident, so yes anyone posting it is an idiot.


how did he find out the results?
how does anyone find out the results before hand.. is someone leaking or is it match history or what



Anybody can look at results for a tournament pretty easily by looking at match histories.

Its unfortunate that people need to do that. NASL should look into doing what the TSL does with their games.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 01:16:58
April 18 2011 01:16 GMT
#259
On April 18 2011 10:13 Ezekyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 10:11 Sfydjklm wrote:
How is it hard to scout that its a fake nexus? Count the sentries?


The extra 2 gateways only came online when the nexus was cancelled. Until he cancelled the nexus, Socke had exactly the same army composition as a standard 3gate expand. The only way to scout this build is to get inside the Protoss player's base and see the additional gateways.

The stalker as second unit, that was probably warped in to kill scout overlord, could have been a hint. Not sure there though.

Also Idra could play more safe. Later 3rd hatch, build spine crawler in advance.
Off-season = best season
Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
April 18 2011 01:16 GMT
#260
Omg will someone tell them that you can't say "he's going to have a lot of ambiguity"? It actually breaks my brain a little bit every time Gretorp uses that word... You'd think for a word you say 10 times per cast you'd figure out how to use it ffs
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