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LightWireEX
United States387 Posts
On April 17 2011 13:00 fush wrote: ok, change the part about closing the advertisement in my original post and replace it with whatever the hell you have to do. does it make it any less pathetic that you're complaining? shut the fuck up User was warned for this post | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
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Jman5
United States745 Posts
On April 17 2011 12:58 Bear4188 wrote: TV timeouts mean the people who paid are getting dead air. The simple fact of the matter is the free stream is a lower quality viewing experience. That makes total sense to me. I think there is a difference between lower quality and frustrating quality. You could fill that "dead air" with a thousand and one things for the paying viewers. You could even package it as bonus content. | ||
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Bear4188
United States1797 Posts
On April 17 2011 13:05 Jman5 wrote: I think there is a difference between lower quality and frustrating quality. You could fill that "dead air" with a thousand and one things for the paying viewers. You could even package it as bonus content. Currently they seem to be trying to time them during player interviews and between-game analysis. People are complaining that they aren't getting that content. Any other content that the paid viewers get exclusive access to will also be complained about. | ||
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ffdestiny
United States773 Posts
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Mashes
Canada441 Posts
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BBV
213 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On April 17 2011 13:00 fush wrote: ok, change the part about closing the advertisement in my original post and replace it with whatever the hell you have to do. does it make it any less pathetic that you're complaining? You know i had a remote control TV in a broke ass post-soviet country way back in the 90s. | ||
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Gijian
United States273 Posts
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On April 17 2011 14:21 Gijian wrote: I lost a lot of interest in watching the NASL. I feel like I'm not the only one either. I notice a drastic drop in viewer count vs. the first day it aired. As for me though, I'm not discouraged at the commercial or streaming technicality but rather I feel a lacking sensation of a live presence. What makes GSL so great is the fact that all the players are presented and playing at the time of the live stream as well as the actual LIVE commentators. For some reason, I totally thought NASL going to have all players present at an area and have the match aired like that of GSL, but apparently, the whole thing is prerecorded with a non-existence competitive atmosphere. Since the thing isn't even "technically" live it's almost better off to get more audiences as well as less technical problems by posting it on youtube. - Drastic drop is probably because it is the weekend. - The TSL isn't Live either but that is great to watch, the atmosphere is there. - NASL broadcast virtually everyday, it would be near impossible to try organize 50 different players from around the world to show up every week | ||
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luftrofl
United States27 Posts
On April 17 2011 14:21 Gijian wrote: I lost a lot of interest in watching the NASL. I feel like I'm not the only one either. I notice a drastic drop in viewer count vs. the first day it aired. As for me though, I'm not discouraged at the commercial or streaming technicality but rather I feel a lacking sensation of a live presence. What makes GSL so great is the fact that all the players are presented and playing at the time of the live stream as well as the actual LIVE commentators. For some reason, I totally thought NASL going to have all players present at an area and have the match aired like that of GSL, but apparently, the whole thing is prerecorded with a non-existence competitive atmosphere. Since the thing isn't even "technically" live it's almost better off to get more audiences as well as less technical problems by posting it on youtube. Yeah, I sorta feel the same way. I was hoping it would be similar to the GSL but in my timezone... but today IdrA's stream had more viewers and I'm starting to see why. =/ Plus, TSL just outclasses NASL on so many levels and most people don't want to sit around watching SC2 all day. | ||
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
On April 17 2011 14:49 luftrofl wrote: Yeah, I sorta feel the same way. I was hoping it would be similar to the GSL but in my timezone... but today IdrA's stream had more viewers and I'm starting to see why. =/ Plus, TSL just outclasses NASL on so many levels and most people don't want to sit around watching SC2 all day. Wait, idra's stream broke 12k viewers? Wtf? O.o | ||
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Debonair
United States146 Posts
On April 17 2011 14:54 Oreo7 wrote: Wait, idra's stream broke 12k viewers? Wtf? O.o During the entire time IdrA was streaming he had a lead on viewers. The closest I saw the viewer numbers was 8700ish to 8k. Then IdrA's stream crashed a couple of times and he left soon thereafter - this is when NASL reached the 12k you're talking about. | ||
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BluePabs
United States317 Posts
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Debonair
United States146 Posts
On April 17 2011 15:20 BluePabs wrote: All this talk about viewership dropping...it's also saturday. People are out doing stuff on the weekend. Normally during the weekdays after work and school people have no plans and will tune in. Not only that but this is only ro16 and the best match of the day ended up being a walkover. | ||
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Bear4188
United States1797 Posts
On April 17 2011 15:24 Debonair wrote: Not only that but this is only ro16 and the best match of the day ended up being a walkover. This isn't the round of 16, it's the first round for the 10-player round robin for the 4th group. | ||
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luftrofl
United States27 Posts
On April 17 2011 15:20 BluePabs wrote: All this talk about viewership dropping...it's also saturday. People are out doing stuff on the weekend. Normally during the weekdays after work and school people have no plans and will tune in. I'd be interested to see the stats for that. (Link please!) I think your argument makes sense but I can't be sure of the exact effect of this. However, it doesn't account for IdrA (emphasis on the fact that this is ONE player) having more viewers than NASL which IMO is far more interesting and telling of NASL's quality compared to say, GSL & TSL (basically an online GSL, which speaks a lot to the guys behind it). | ||
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thehitman
1105 Posts
Like knowing that its going to last 3 months and that these first 2 months are barely important, really deters from the event and removes a lot of the fun factor. I mean people want to see important matches that mean something, fighting for big money so everything is on the line, but knowing these matches are sort of a prequel to the main thing is kind of ruining the fun. Also since its not live and over the internet having absolutely nothing interesting to show or talk about between the matches really hurts the experience. Also there needs to be some kind of graphics, like show a graphic of the bracket, show a graphic of the players, show a graphic of the map, etc... I mean they should have probably started with a smaller prize pool, something like 30k and use more resources into production and build from there. I mean I really want to support e-sports, but this is not the way you do stuff, you don't go from 400.000 dollars prize pool to 150.000 and no production. You really need to start small and build up. Also people were expecting a lot more, $400.000 prize pool and people were 100% sure its going to be a really professional, really great production with everything in perfect order. And people have every right to think that way, because they advertised it as such and they failed. | ||
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Ruseter
Canada17 Posts
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Me1234
Germany219 Posts
just look how the probes move. VOD and livestream, same problem for me. please let me know if i'm the only one with that problem and how I can change that. | ||
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