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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
April 16 2011 21:56 GMT
#4921
Anyone whining about balance is banned from hereon. Had it with you guys. Enjoy the games, post better, or stay out of this thread
Moderator
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
April 16 2011 21:56 GMT
#4922
God TSL casters are always so awesome.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
peeeky
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada631 Posts
April 16 2011 21:56 GMT
#4923
It's too bad that a lot of posts here at TL are:

P wins: Protoss is easy, the Zerg played so well and still lost. Bad game.
Z wins: The Zerg player had to out play the Protoss so much, the Protoss player is just terrible.

Can't we just enjoy the games?
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
April 16 2011 21:56 GMT
#4924
On April 17 2011 06:54 Huragius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 06:52 Holgerius wrote:
All Morrow can do it baneling bust, right?


^^

Well, HasuObs was actually dead after his main was destroyed. During that drop, Morrow's macro was non-existent and it feels like Morrow could have finished it really earlier.


Do you even play the game? Doing that kind of drop automatically puts your macro behind, you can't do both at the same time. Also, no he couldn't end it much earlier without either taking big risks or relying on dumb luck.
buscemi
Profile Joined April 2011
116 Posts
April 16 2011 21:56 GMT
#4925
On April 17 2011 06:53 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 06:52 imPERSONater wrote:
What!?!? Drops and aggression helps the macro zerg win? Chyeah.


Big maps allow for that. Too bad that Blizzard still insists on small maps and will probably balance the game around them.


What exactly stopped Morrow from dropping/nydusing/attacking the third/fourth on Metal? Nothing but his own passivity. Remember that ling that was blocking the third? Cannon gets vision but doesn't have range, and Hasuobs' army moves in to kill it? Perfect time for a drop/nydus in the back of the main to snipe a key tech structure.
RedHelix
Profile Joined August 2010
250 Posts
April 16 2011 21:56 GMT
#4926
hasu had several chances to destroy morrow, the drop play didnt change much, supply and worker count was pretty much even at that point and enough to saturate one base anyway, lucky snipe on the forge by morrow and bad engagement decisions by hasu.
Mascherano
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Argentina1726 Posts
April 16 2011 21:56 GMT
#4927
How is it that msl threads where the games are at 3am are updated as soon as a match ends but a TSL thread opened by a TL admin in the middle of the day doesn't have up to date results?

Bisu
Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
April 16 2011 21:56 GMT
#4928
On April 17 2011 06:55 butchji wrote:
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On April 17 2011 06:51 ffadicted wrote:
See where aggression gets you zergies???


"it's actually utterly hilarious how much better than you I have to be to win this" some smart man once said


Actually, HasuObs was a better player there. He was simply caught off guard.
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
April 16 2011 21:56 GMT
#4929
On April 17 2011 06:54 disco wrote:
So a massive advantage barely gets Morrow a win. Was a fun game though.

How can a win be "barely a win", its quite 1 dimsional, either you win or you lose.
dr Helvetica <3
laegoose
Profile Joined June 2010
Russian Federation325 Posts
April 16 2011 21:56 GMT
#4930
LOL I ragequited the stream when morrow failed 2nd drop because he was behind in supply & workers and he won it. Gj morrow
LEEKsc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden380 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 21:57:37
April 16 2011 21:56 GMT
#4931
soon a zerg bonjwa will show all zergs the ways of the matchup like MC showed stabile toss play was possible!
RIP our beloved Amulet, we will never forget. // nAni #1 prOb rush
Ashok
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia339 Posts
April 16 2011 21:56 GMT
#4932
What's the score guys? Main page not yet updated
relyt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1073 Posts
April 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#4933
On April 17 2011 06:56 Beyonder wrote:
Anyone whining about balance is banned from hereon. Had it with you guys. Enjoy the games, post better, or stay out of this thread

Thank you . Someone needs to stop the balance whine.
Dreaming11
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom105 Posts
April 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#4934
On April 17 2011 06:55 Redox wrote:
So how should Morrow have done the same early agression withput going gas first?
Why was day9 so critical of that?


spanishiwas build gets gas late but then you get 4 gas, as soon as lair is done (about the normal time) you can quickly get drops and overlord speed and hydra den at the same time, setting you up nicely for a really strong timing push.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
April 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#4935
babies? Oo
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Pills
Profile Joined October 2010
206 Posts
April 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#4936
On April 17 2011 06:54 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 06:52 entropius wrote:
On April 17 2011 06:51 ffadicted wrote:
See where aggression gets you zergies???


His early aggression didn't win the game for him. It helped -- but it was a hair's breadth from doing very little damage and just losing the game for him.


Considering hasuobs did probably the worst opening against morrows mass zergling/baneling drop, it's a surprise he even survived... =/

It prevented him from ever getting a fast econ to make his deathball.

It did so much damage because he went stargate though.


Well, Morrow didn't do any damage to Hasu's production. The natural had all of the gateways and other buildings, and Morrow didn't touch that.
loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 21:58:15
April 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#4937
On April 17 2011 06:54 Logros wrote:
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On April 17 2011 06:53 loveeholicce wrote:
On April 17 2011 06:51 HolyArrow wrote:
On April 17 2011 06:50 sleepingdog wrote:
Zergs watch carefully: being aggressive wins you games. Maybe a little bit less QQ incoming in future ZvP LR threads?


We've seen Zergs win like this before. QQers claim that this doesn't work because they're just ignorant.


QQers claim this doesn't work unless you have the massive advantage morrow had. At that point the game has no bearing on balance


And he had the massive advantage because of? That's right, aggression!


BEcause of a semi all in drop that's designed to counter early stargate play to be more specific. It was a specific build used for a specific moment, not some new gameplay style Zergs need to employ. July did the same thing to Mc in the finals (except with hydras, but the idea stands). Any time you open with a really quick stargate theres a good timing for Zerg to use overlord drop.
상처받은 그대에 가슴에 사랑을 심어줄께요♥
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
April 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#4938
On April 17 2011 06:54 DrunkenTemplar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 06:53 Azuroz wrote:
hasuobs win: "omg protoss imbalanced zerg cant win T_T deathballzorz lazer"

morrow win:"holy crap stellar play, perfect agression flawless timings you are a god morrow"

its getting quite tiring after a while..


pretty much this


QFT, imba whiners need to stfu and just watch the games
bluestuff
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada893 Posts
April 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#4939
gotta say, series today way better then last weekends
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
April 16 2011 21:57 GMT
#4940
On April 17 2011 06:56 Beyonder wrote:
Anyone whining about balance is banned from hereon. Had it with you guys. Enjoy the games, post better, or stay out of this thread

Quoting for posterity.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
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