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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
April 09 2011 21:30 GMT
#3061
On April 10 2011 06:29 shaman6ix wrote:
man it seems these days everything else than a clean-cut ''gg'' is BM or QQ. i feel bad for you haters.


Except WhiteRa confirmed that his 4gate comment against San was sarcastic in an interview. Why should his 4gate comment against MC be any different?
ReTr0[p.S]
Profile Joined March 2005
Argentina1590 Posts
April 09 2011 21:31 GMT
#3062
On April 10 2011 06:19 s4life wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 06:13 maliceee wrote:
Idra's prediction when finding out they were both on KR server=so right I cry.

Tyler's fine, its just a slump, people overreact over a two week period.


Problem is Tyler's been in a slump since the beta started.. dunno people says it's because he WOWs too much... I think it's just because there is a lot more competition in SC2 as opposed to SC1. In other words, overrated.. he's still a fine fellow though, very likable guy.


What? SC2 has more competition than SC1?

SC2 is still a game of luck in most cases, nothing compared to SC1.

User was warned for this post
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 21:32:50
April 09 2011 21:32 GMT
#3063
I feel silly for betting on Tyler. After his results at MLG I should've known better. Don't know how much he's been practicing but it feels like he's behind in 2011.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 09 2011 21:33 GMT
#3064
Well i don't exactly agree that the games today were boring. Except for the PvP of course, which was expected to be boring.

I loved Thorzain's play vs Tyler. Gotta give him some credit, even though Tyler really didn't play extraordinary well.
soverRR
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden348 Posts
April 09 2011 21:33 GMT
#3065
All that hype about this being Tylers tournament, ye right.
dejahu
Profile Joined April 2011
United States83 Posts
April 09 2011 21:34 GMT
#3066
this is insane....
Denial isn't only a river in Egypt.
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
April 09 2011 21:35 GMT
#3067
On April 10 2011 06:31 ReTr0[p.S] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 06:19 s4life wrote:
On April 10 2011 06:13 maliceee wrote:
Idra's prediction when finding out they were both on KR server=so right I cry.

Tyler's fine, its just a slump, people overreact over a two week period.


Problem is Tyler's been in a slump since the beta started.. dunno people says it's because he WOWs too much... I think it's just because there is a lot more competition in SC2 as opposed to SC1. In other words, overrated.. he's still a fine fellow though, very likable guy.


What? SC2 has more competition than SC1?

SC2 is still a game of luck in most cases, nothing compared to SC1.


SC2 is still volatile and growing. SC1 was a 10+ year span and still going.
Skank
Profile Joined October 2010
United States329 Posts
April 09 2011 21:35 GMT
#3068
On April 10 2011 06:31 ReTr0[p.S] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 06:19 s4life wrote:
On April 10 2011 06:13 maliceee wrote:
Idra's prediction when finding out they were both on KR server=so right I cry.

Tyler's fine, its just a slump, people overreact over a two week period.


Problem is Tyler's been in a slump since the beta started.. dunno people says it's because he WOWs too much... I think it's just because there is a lot more competition in SC2 as opposed to SC1. In other words, overrated.. he's still a fine fellow though, very likable guy.


What? SC2 has more competition than SC1?

SC2 is still a game of luck in most cases, nothing compared to SC1.


SC2 tournaments have way more prize money than SC1 tournaments ever did. Fact. And seriously? Luck? Take your baseless hate and BW elitism somewhere else.
"To be honest, to play protoss is ridiculously simple" -NesTea
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
April 09 2011 21:36 GMT
#3069
okay to sum up this LR thread

Tyler sucks and is overhyped

White-ra is super BM

WC3 players are better than BW


good lord people -,-'
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 09 2011 21:36 GMT
#3070
On April 10 2011 06:23 s4life wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 06:19 BryanSC wrote:
On April 10 2011 06:16 s4life wrote:
On April 10 2011 06:13 BryanSC wrote:
On April 10 2011 06:09 s4life wrote:
What is with the foreign WC3 players? Kiwi, Naniwa, Kas, Thorzain and now Happy (look him up in sc2ranks).. they are absolutely destroying the foreign ex SC1 players in every tournament.... any theories?


What do you mean destroying SC1 players in every tournament? Naniwa is the only one to have won a major tournament, the other guys haven't done much.

Holler.


Kas hasn't done much? inform yourself before posting please.
Kiwi lost to Naniwa but no other player in the MLG.. Happy just transitioned to SC2 a month ago but looks promising with a 94% w.r. and #1 spot in the global ranks


Actually no, inform yourself please. Kas has no major win in any tournament, and if you're counting Go4SC2 as a major victory, then I don't know what to tell you.


He wins almost every tournament he gets invited to.. just look at his stats, it's not his fault he can't travel to US and compete in LAN tournaments.. but what is your point? is there a better terran in europe at the moment? Kas and Thorzain are a clear cut above everyone else.

I don't know about that. Goody is really good, and so is SjoW.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
April 09 2011 21:36 GMT
#3071
On April 10 2011 06:31 ReTr0[p.S] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 06:19 s4life wrote:
On April 10 2011 06:13 maliceee wrote:
Idra's prediction when finding out they were both on KR server=so right I cry.

Tyler's fine, its just a slump, people overreact over a two week period.


Problem is Tyler's been in a slump since the beta started.. dunno people says it's because he WOWs too much... I think it's just because there is a lot more competition in SC2 as opposed to SC1. In other words, overrated.. he's still a fine fellow though, very likable guy.


What? SC2 has more competition than SC1?

SC2 is still a game of luck in most cases, nothing compared to SC1.


Sorry, I was referring to the foreign scene in SC1. Of course SC1 requires more mechanics than SC2, but the foreign scene in SC2 is just much larger with as many as 10 to 100 times the number of players SC1 had in the later years.. thus there is more competition.
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
April 09 2011 21:38 GMT
#3072
On April 10 2011 06:31 ReTr0[p.S] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 06:19 s4life wrote:
On April 10 2011 06:13 maliceee wrote:
Idra's prediction when finding out they were both on KR server=so right I cry.

Tyler's fine, its just a slump, people overreact over a two week period.


Problem is Tyler's been in a slump since the beta started.. dunno people says it's because he WOWs too much... I think it's just because there is a lot more competition in SC2 as opposed to SC1. In other words, overrated.. he's still a fine fellow though, very likable guy.


What? SC2 has more competition than SC1?

SC2 is still a game of luck in most cases, nothing compared to SC1.


Right now SC2 has more money being pumped into it (outside of Korea) than SC1 had in it's entire lifespan. With that much money more people want a piece of the pie and the competition has sky rocketed. The game is more volatile at the moment from patch to patch and week to week as new things are discovered all the time and it'll continue that way till Blizzard decides to stop the patches.

Nothing to do with luck, all to do with a constantly evolving game.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
danielsan
Profile Joined December 2010
Romania399 Posts
April 09 2011 21:38 GMT
#3073
On April 10 2011 06:19 Me1234 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 06:03 Qaatar wrote:
The second series had an expected result. Ra hasn't done anything in Korea other than getting owned left and right by all three races. His form just isn't good right now imo.

I'm shocked at Nony's performance, however, especially given the fact that he plays P, and PvT is a good match-up for him (see his previous games against Strelok).

As for those saying Thorzain has any chance against MC - sure he does, but MC after his poor performance in the FXOpen has tweeted that he's taking foreigners much more seriously, so I doubt there will be an element of surprise anymore. Those who think otherwise are misinformed.


whaaat?? seeing that white-ra managed to win a game in the teamleague in korea, I had hope he could at least win some maps or even win but it was pretty much obvious that thorzain could defeat tyler easily.

his win vs MC was 100% incidental.
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
April 09 2011 21:39 GMT
#3074
I'm not surprise how frustrated White-ra is, He had so many PVPs (GSL then this TSL) and lost to 4 gates.
sharktopus.
Profile Joined April 2011
United States456 Posts
April 09 2011 21:39 GMT
#3075
On April 10 2011 06:31 ReTr0[p.S] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 06:19 s4life wrote:
On April 10 2011 06:13 maliceee wrote:
Idra's prediction when finding out they were both on KR server=so right I cry.

Tyler's fine, its just a slump, people overreact over a two week period.


Problem is Tyler's been in a slump since the beta started.. dunno people says it's because he WOWs too much... I think it's just because there is a lot more competition in SC2 as opposed to SC1. In other words, overrated.. he's still a fine fellow though, very likable guy.


What? SC2 has more competition than SC1?

SC2 is still a game of luck in most cases, nothing compared to SC1.


how do you figure? I think luck has very little to do with it, especially at this level of play.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 09 2011 21:41 GMT
#3076
On April 10 2011 06:31 ReTr0[p.S] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 06:19 s4life wrote:
On April 10 2011 06:13 maliceee wrote:
Idra's prediction when finding out they were both on KR server=so right I cry.

Tyler's fine, its just a slump, people overreact over a two week period.


Problem is Tyler's been in a slump since the beta started.. dunno people says it's because he WOWs too much... I think it's just because there is a lot more competition in SC2 as opposed to SC1. In other words, overrated.. he's still a fine fellow though, very likable guy.


What? SC2 has more competition than SC1?

SC2 is still a game of luck in most cases, nothing compared to SC1.

Get out of here with that crap. SC2 is about luck in most cases? The best players like MC, MVP and Nestea don't have lower win % than the really good BW pros did. MC has higher win % in PvP than Jaedong does in ZvZ. Less games played, sure, but still. Don't try to pull that crap.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
April 09 2011 21:41 GMT
#3077
On April 10 2011 06:36 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 06:23 s4life wrote:
On April 10 2011 06:19 BryanSC wrote:
On April 10 2011 06:16 s4life wrote:
On April 10 2011 06:13 BryanSC wrote:
On April 10 2011 06:09 s4life wrote:
What is with the foreign WC3 players? Kiwi, Naniwa, Kas, Thorzain and now Happy (look him up in sc2ranks).. they are absolutely destroying the foreign ex SC1 players in every tournament.... any theories?


What do you mean destroying SC1 players in every tournament? Naniwa is the only one to have won a major tournament, the other guys haven't done much.

Holler.


Kas hasn't done much? inform yourself before posting please.
Kiwi lost to Naniwa but no other player in the MLG.. Happy just transitioned to SC2 a month ago but looks promising with a 94% w.r. and #1 spot in the global ranks


Actually no, inform yourself please. Kas has no major win in any tournament, and if you're counting Go4SC2 as a major victory, then I don't know what to tell you.


He wins almost every tournament he gets invited to.. just look at his stats, it's not his fault he can't travel to US and compete in LAN tournaments.. but what is your point? is there a better terran in europe at the moment? Kas and Thorzain are a clear cut above everyone else.

I don't know about that. Goody is really good, and so is SjoW.


If you judge by offline results, SjoW is still the best. If you include online results, it's undoubtedly Kas. Goody is pretty overrated, and Thorzain has to prove a bit more than just beating two guys who were in terrible game shape and played like garbage - Thor played well, don't get me wrong, but let's not act like he's suddenly a Top 10 player in the world (responding to the previous guy). Let's see how he does against MC. I thought Thorzain was going to the Copenhagen games, but I guess not.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
April 09 2011 21:42 GMT
#3078
I don't think White-Ra actually practices the "traditional" 4-gate. You know, the one with a zealot and 6 stalkers @5:45.
ct2299
Profile Joined February 2011
380 Posts
April 09 2011 21:44 GMT
#3079
I'm sorry guys, as much as I love White-Ra, if you can't hold a 4 gate, you can't really say you're the best in the world. I know it brings a lot of tears to you guys, but it is nothing but the truth. Someone who is truly the best, will be able to hold off all types of cheese and still come out on top.
Me1234
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany219 Posts
April 09 2011 21:44 GMT
#3080
On April 10 2011 06:38 danielsan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 06:19 Me1234 wrote:
On April 10 2011 06:03 Qaatar wrote:
The second series had an expected result. Ra hasn't done anything in Korea other than getting owned left and right by all three races. His form just isn't good right now imo.

I'm shocked at Nony's performance, however, especially given the fact that he plays P, and PvT is a good match-up for him (see his previous games against Strelok).

As for those saying Thorzain has any chance against MC - sure he does, but MC after his poor performance in the FXOpen has tweeted that he's taking foreigners much more seriously, so I doubt there will be an element of surprise anymore. Those who think otherwise are misinformed.


whaaat?? seeing that white-ra managed to win a game in the teamleague in korea, I had hope he could at least win some maps or even win but it was pretty much obvious that thorzain could defeat tyler easily.

his win vs MC was 100% incidental.


of course, it was like MC accidentally writing GG at the beginning and leaving the game

seriously, he earned his win against MC in the teamleague, far from 100% incidental
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