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On April 10 2011 05:43 LostDevil wrote:
tl.net is turning into a haterfest on anyone that isn't super duper manner 100% all the time. white-ra has one of the longest track records in e-sports for being super manner and a nice guy to everyone online and at LAN events so even if he did BM 1 or 2 times out of frustration with builds that aren't super skill intensive it still should be received as just that and not an uproar with everyone saying omg WR = BM!!! Sure he may have had a lapse but I'm sure if anyone went up to him at a LAN he would be one of the nicest guys there even with his terrible english. This "BM" in no way makes him a bad person in general or for e-sports overall so I think the whining should just end. It is also no surprise that almost all the people complaining are posters who joined in 2010 or later and none of the actual strong gamers that know white-ra and his history in broodwar.
nobody cares about this artificial good manner - bad manner circus.
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Didn't we already have this WhiteRa BM discussion when he made that 4gate comment against San? And WhiteRa confirmed on a stream interview that he really hates 4gate and thinks it's way too strong for the amount of skill it requires?
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On April 10 2011 05:51 Hrrrrm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2011 05:44 arb wrote:
I sorta expected Whitera and MC but i was hoping for 3-1 or 3-2..
Nony however i didnt see coming at all
and LOL @ all the new people saying White-Ra was being BM
Please learn something about him before you say something so stupid and obnoxious How could you not see Nony's performance coming a mile away. His lackluster result at MLG was a clear sign that their was something wrong with his play/practice/mindset lately. He had about two weeks to prepare for three people. I have no doubt he'll rebound in NASL but, he has been down lately. Surprising that he didn't take a single game off Thorzain, not a surprise that he lost though.
I think my ..rabid fanboyism from Nony from BW got in my way perhaps, i wasnt sure about how he did at MLG though.
I assumed he'd come into this very well prepared and be able to straight 3-0 him(or hopefully 3-2 cause of the series)
instead we got a bad reaction in game 1, and that followed by one of the worst plays ive EVER seen.
then game 3 was just ughhhh.
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Well Whitera is pretty much frustrated by the PvP matchup overall and i don't think it has anything to do with manners neither grudge towards the protosses who beat him; it's just a feeling that probably 95% of the protoss players are having right now wether they are just at the middle master league level or the toppest pro level; this matchup is very infuriating at times and you just can't help it... Whitera is still THE MAN though
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On April 10 2011 05:51 Hrrrrm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2011 05:44 arb wrote:
I sorta expected Whitera and MC but i was hoping for 3-1 or 3-2..
Nony however i didnt see coming at all
and LOL @ all the new people saying White-Ra was being BM
Please learn something about him before you say something so stupid and obnoxious How could you not see Nony's performance coming a mile away. His lackluster result at MLG was a clear sign that their was something wrong with his play/practice/mindset lately. He had about two weeks to prepare for three people. I have no doubt he'll rebound in NASL but, he has been down lately. Surprising that he didn't take a single game off Thorzain, not a surprise that he lost though.
This is hilarious. Nony is stumping you say? You have no doubt he'll rebound (really? no doubt?) A player has to have been actually successful before they can fall into a stump. Nony hasn't won anything significant in SC2 since its release. He hasn't even had many top 16 finishes. He's been doing poorly for a long time but the team name of Liquid and its connections to the community has sort of propelled him from tournament to tournament with high expectations. It's like people forgot that he got wrecked in the last major tournament they saw him in.
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On April 10 2011 05:21 Xeris wrote:
are there VODS up yet? i wanna watch tyler vs thorzain OO!~
It's to sad, dont do it.
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tyler and white-ra had bad days.
i still count them as top NA/EU tosses.
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The second series had an expected result. Ra hasn't done anything in Korea other than getting owned left and right by all three races. His form just isn't good right now imo.
I'm shocked at Nony's performance, however, especially given the fact that he plays P, and PvT is a good match-up for him (see his previous games against Strelok).
As for those saying Thorzain has any chance against MC - sure he does, but MC after his poor performance in the FXOpen has tweeted that he's taking foreigners much more seriously, so I doubt there will be an element of surprise anymore. Those who think otherwise are misinformed.
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Everytime I watch tyler's game its very bad but he always trash talk like.. "I'm not impressed with MC. SSKS is sloppy, blah blah blah" ....I just don't understand-_- please show something before trash talk..
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You just have to become a better fourgater if u want to win PvP, that is a fact
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Tyler is as BM as IdrA, but IdrA actually does decently well since the Beta, unlike Tyler.
Nony is hyped just because of his BW background and the fact that he's with TL. Otherwise he hasn't showed anything.
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What is with the foreign WC3 players? Kiwi, Naniwa, Kas, Thorzain and now Happy (look him up in sc2ranks).. they are absolutely destroying the foreign ex SC1 players in every tournament.... any theories?
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On April 10 2011 06:09 s4life wrote:
What is with the foreign WC3 players? Kiwi, Naniwa, Kas, Thorzain and now Happy (look him up in sc2ranks).. they are absolutely destroying the foreign ex SC1 players in every tournament.... any theories?
The game has been out for over a year now... the rts background isn't much of a factor anymore... and was never much of a factor after beta phase 1 tbh ;/
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Idra's prediction when finding out they were both on KR server=so right I cry.
Tyler's fine, its just a slump, people overreact over a two week period.
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On April 10 2011 06:09 s4life wrote:
What is with the foreign WC3 players? Kiwi, Naniwa, Kas, Thorzain and now Happy (look him up in sc2ranks).. they are absolutely destroying the foreign ex SC1 players in every tournament.... any theories?
What do you mean destroying SC1 players in every tournament? Naniwa is the only one to have won a major tournament, the other guys haven't done much.
Holler.
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On April 10 2011 06:07 Fatalize wrote:
Tyler is as BM as IdrA, but IdrA actually does decently well since the Beta, unlike Tyler.
Nony is hyped just because of his BW background and the fact that he's with TL. Otherwise he hasn't showed anything.
You couldn't be any more wrong. Maybe passionate, but not BM. Upset about losing maybe, but not BM. This is a generalization like you made yours, obviously i havent' watched the matches today and i don't know if he did some sort of BMness, but people seem to blow it way out of the water
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On April 10 2011 06:03 Qaatar wrote:
The second series had an expected result. Ra hasn't done anything in Korea other than getting owned left and right by all three races. His form just isn't good right now imo.
I'm shocked at Nony's performance, however, especially given the fact that he plays P, and PvT is a good match-up for him (see his previous games against Strelok).
As for those saying Thorzain has any chance against MC - sure he does, but MC after his poor performance in the FXOpen has tweeted that he's taking foreigners much more seriously, so I doubt there will be an element of surprise anymore. Those who think otherwise are misinformed.
I think the level of the absolute top foreign ex WC3 is comparable to korean B-level SC1 players, like MC.. the Thorzain-MC match will be hard fought. MC might still win but it will be close.
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On April 10 2011 05:53 HolyArrow wrote:
Didn't we already have this WhiteRa BM discussion when he made that 4gate comment against San? And WhiteRa confirmed on a stream interview that he really hates 4gate and thinks it's way too strong for the amount of skill it requires?
For a guy who hate 4gate started the 4gate war against mc and failed badly.
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On April 10 2011 06:13 BryanSC wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2011 06:09 s4life wrote:
What is with the foreign WC3 players? Kiwi, Naniwa, Kas, Thorzain and now Happy (look him up in sc2ranks).. they are absolutely destroying the foreign ex SC1 players in every tournament.... any theories? What do you mean destroying SC1 players in every tournament? Naniwa is the only one to have won a major tournament, the other guys haven't done much. Holler.
Kas hasn't done much? inform yourself before posting please.
Kiwi lost to Naniwa but no other player in the MLG.. Happy just transitioned to SC2 a month ago but looks promising with a 94% w.r. and #1 spot in the global ranks
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