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danielsan
Profile Joined December 2010
Romania399 Posts
April 09 2011 20:53 GMT
#3021
On April 10 2011 05:43 LostDevil wrote:
tl.net is turning into a haterfest on anyone that isn't super duper manner 100% all the time. white-ra has one of the longest track records in e-sports for being super manner and a nice guy to everyone online and at LAN events so even if he did BM 1 or 2 times out of frustration with builds that aren't super skill intensive it still should be received as just that and not an uproar with everyone saying omg WR = BM!!! Sure he may have had a lapse but I'm sure if anyone went up to him at a LAN he would be one of the nicest guys there even with his terrible english. This "BM" in no way makes him a bad person in general or for e-sports overall so I think the whining should just end. It is also no surprise that almost all the people complaining are posters who joined in 2010 or later and none of the actual strong gamers that know white-ra and his history in broodwar.

nobody cares about this artificial good manner - bad manner circus.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
April 09 2011 20:53 GMT
#3022
Didn't we already have this WhiteRa BM discussion when he made that 4gate comment against San? And WhiteRa confirmed on a stream interview that he really hates 4gate and thinks it's way too strong for the amount of skill it requires?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
April 09 2011 20:54 GMT
#3023
On April 10 2011 05:51 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 05:44 arb wrote:
I sorta expected Whitera and MC but i was hoping for 3-1 or 3-2..

Nony however i didnt see coming at all

and LOL @ all the new people saying White-Ra was being BM

Please learn something about him before you say something so stupid and obnoxious


How could you not see Nony's performance coming a mile away. His lackluster result at MLG was a clear sign that their was something wrong with his play/practice/mindset lately. He had about two weeks to prepare for three people. I have no doubt he'll rebound in NASL but, he has been down lately.

Surprising that he didn't take a single game off Thorzain, not a surprise that he lost though.

I think my ..rabid fanboyism from Nony from BW got in my way perhaps, i wasnt sure about how he did at MLG though.

I assumed he'd come into this very well prepared and be able to straight 3-0 him(or hopefully 3-2 cause of the series)
instead we got a bad reaction in game 1, and that followed by one of the worst plays ive EVER seen.

then game 3 was just ughhhh.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
ShiGu)
Profile Joined April 2011
France14 Posts
April 09 2011 20:56 GMT
#3024
Well Whitera is pretty much frustrated by the PvP matchup overall and i don't think it has anything to do with manners neither grudge towards the protosses who beat him; it's just a feeling that probably 95% of the protoss players are having right now wether they are just at the middle master league level or the toppest pro level; this matchup is very infuriating at times and you just can't help it... Whitera is still THE MAN though
trashcan
Profile Joined November 2010
Mauritania56 Posts
April 09 2011 20:57 GMT
#3025
On April 10 2011 05:51 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 05:44 arb wrote:
I sorta expected Whitera and MC but i was hoping for 3-1 or 3-2..

Nony however i didnt see coming at all

and LOL @ all the new people saying White-Ra was being BM

Please learn something about him before you say something so stupid and obnoxious


How could you not see Nony's performance coming a mile away. His lackluster result at MLG was a clear sign that their was something wrong with his play/practice/mindset lately. He had about two weeks to prepare for three people. I have no doubt he'll rebound in NASL but, he has been down lately.

Surprising that he didn't take a single game off Thorzain, not a surprise that he lost though.


This is hilarious. Nony is stumping you say? You have no doubt he'll rebound (really? no doubt?) A player has to have been actually successful before they can fall into a stump. Nony hasn't won anything significant in SC2 since its release. He hasn't even had many top 16 finishes. He's been doing poorly for a long time but the team name of Liquid and its connections to the community has sort of propelled him from tournament to tournament with high expectations. It's like people forgot that he got wrecked in the last major tournament they saw him in.

Razyel
Profile Joined May 2010
295 Posts
April 09 2011 21:00 GMT
#3026
On April 10 2011 05:21 Xeris wrote:
are there VODS up yet? i wanna watch tyler vs thorzain OO!~

It's to sad, dont do it.
Tester Iron NonY WhiteRa Huk Genius
hmmm...
Profile Joined March 2011
632 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 21:06:04
April 09 2011 21:02 GMT
#3027
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
April 09 2011 21:03 GMT
#3028
tyler and white-ra had bad days.

i still count them as top NA/EU tosses.

European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
April 09 2011 21:03 GMT
#3029
The second series had an expected result. Ra hasn't done anything in Korea other than getting owned left and right by all three races. His form just isn't good right now imo.

I'm shocked at Nony's performance, however, especially given the fact that he plays P, and PvT is a good match-up for him (see his previous games against Strelok).

As for those saying Thorzain has any chance against MC - sure he does, but MC after his poor performance in the FXOpen has tweeted that he's taking foreigners much more seriously, so I doubt there will be an element of surprise anymore. Those who think otherwise are misinformed.
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
April 09 2011 21:05 GMT
#3030
Everytime I watch tyler's game its very bad but he always trash talk like.. "I'm not impressed with MC. SSKS is sloppy, blah blah blah" ....I just don't understand-_- please show something before trash talk..
You know what I'm talking about
guldurkhand
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands71 Posts
April 09 2011 21:06 GMT
#3031
You just have to become a better fourgater if u want to win PvP, that is a fact
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
April 09 2011 21:07 GMT
#3032
Tyler is as BM as IdrA, but IdrA actually does decently well since the Beta, unlike Tyler.

Nony is hyped just because of his BW background and the fact that he's with TL. Otherwise he hasn't showed anything.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
April 09 2011 21:09 GMT
#3033
What is with the foreign WC3 players? Kiwi, Naniwa, Kas, Thorzain and now Happy (look him up in sc2ranks).. they are absolutely destroying the foreign ex SC1 players in every tournament.... any theories?
Nomadic
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom312 Posts
April 09 2011 21:13 GMT
#3034
On April 10 2011 06:09 s4life wrote:
What is with the foreign WC3 players? Kiwi, Naniwa, Kas, Thorzain and now Happy (look him up in sc2ranks).. they are absolutely destroying the foreign ex SC1 players in every tournament.... any theories?

The game has been out for over a year now... the rts background isn't much of a factor anymore... and was never much of a factor after beta phase 1 tbh ;/
maliceee
Profile Joined August 2010
United States634 Posts
April 09 2011 21:13 GMT
#3035
Idra's prediction when finding out they were both on KR server=so right I cry.

Tyler's fine, its just a slump, people overreact over a two week period.
BryanSC
Profile Joined October 2010
United States455 Posts
April 09 2011 21:13 GMT
#3036
On April 10 2011 06:09 s4life wrote:
What is with the foreign WC3 players? Kiwi, Naniwa, Kas, Thorzain and now Happy (look him up in sc2ranks).. they are absolutely destroying the foreign ex SC1 players in every tournament.... any theories?


What do you mean destroying SC1 players in every tournament? Naniwa is the only one to have won a major tournament, the other guys haven't done much.

Holler.
CidO
Profile Joined June 2010
United States695 Posts
April 09 2011 21:13 GMT
#3037
On April 10 2011 06:07 Fatalize wrote:
Tyler is as BM as IdrA, but IdrA actually does decently well since the Beta, unlike Tyler.

Nony is hyped just because of his BW background and the fact that he's with TL. Otherwise he hasn't showed anything.

You couldn't be any more wrong. Maybe passionate, but not BM. Upset about losing maybe, but not BM. This is a generalization like you made yours, obviously i havent' watched the matches today and i don't know if he did some sort of BMness, but people seem to blow it way out of the water
:P
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
April 09 2011 21:14 GMT
#3038
On April 10 2011 06:03 Qaatar wrote:
The second series had an expected result. Ra hasn't done anything in Korea other than getting owned left and right by all three races. His form just isn't good right now imo.

I'm shocked at Nony's performance, however, especially given the fact that he plays P, and PvT is a good match-up for him (see his previous games against Strelok).

As for those saying Thorzain has any chance against MC - sure he does, but MC after his poor performance in the FXOpen has tweeted that he's taking foreigners much more seriously, so I doubt there will be an element of surprise anymore. Those who think otherwise are misinformed.


I think the level of the absolute top foreign ex WC3 is comparable to korean B-level SC1 players, like MC.. the Thorzain-MC match will be hard fought. MC might still win but it will be close.
lazyfeet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States468 Posts
April 09 2011 21:15 GMT
#3039
On April 10 2011 05:53 HolyArrow wrote:
Didn't we already have this WhiteRa BM discussion when he made that 4gate comment against San? And WhiteRa confirmed on a stream interview that he really hates 4gate and thinks it's way too strong for the amount of skill it requires?

For a guy who hate 4gate started the 4gate war against mc and failed badly.
LUCK is What Happens When Preparation Meets Opportunity.......
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
April 09 2011 21:16 GMT
#3040
On April 10 2011 06:13 BryanSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 06:09 s4life wrote:
What is with the foreign WC3 players? Kiwi, Naniwa, Kas, Thorzain and now Happy (look him up in sc2ranks).. they are absolutely destroying the foreign ex SC1 players in every tournament.... any theories?


What do you mean destroying SC1 players in every tournament? Naniwa is the only one to have won a major tournament, the other guys haven't done much.

Holler.


Kas hasn't done much? inform yourself before posting please.
Kiwi lost to Naniwa but no other player in the MLG.. Happy just transitioned to SC2 a month ago but looks promising with a 94% w.r. and #1 spot in the global ranks
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