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Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
April 02 2011 21:10 GMT
#4521
It's hard to seperate "whining" with "stating the obvious" at the moment. For example if I state that MLG is just a bunch of incompetent group of people who fail at organizing events still in their like 50th event, that is not whining but just stating the obvious.
#1 Grubby Fan.
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
April 02 2011 21:10 GMT
#4522
Can't wait for next season sponsors after this failure : the city of Lost Springs, Wyoming, Scholl footbed sandals, Preparation H, Mac Games, Microsoft trackball mouse and www.tools.com
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
April 02 2011 21:10 GMT
#4523
So what's happening right now. The stream is offline I think but the schedule says games should be shown till about 10pm or something.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
April 02 2011 21:10 GMT
#4524
On April 03 2011 06:08 keeblur wrote:
Poll: Who do you blame for this mess?

MLG (217)
 
69%

Blizzard (69)
 
22%

Dallas (29)
 
9%

315 total votes

Your vote: Who do you blame for this mess?

(Vote): Blizzard
(Vote): MLG
(Vote): Dallas



Why would u blame blizzard ? MLG connection is a big failure, bnet is working fine.
I'm getting the derection.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
April 02 2011 21:10 GMT
#4525
Ya, lets blame Dallas so we can fix Dallas so the games start working. Fix Dallas naoe please!
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Truefire
Profile Joined August 2010
United States226 Posts
April 02 2011 21:10 GMT
#4526
On April 03 2011 06:08 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 06:08 keeblur wrote:
Poll: Who do you blame for this mess?

MLG (217)
 
69%

Blizzard (69)
 
22%

Dallas (29)
 
9%

315 total votes

Your vote: Who do you blame for this mess?

(Vote): Blizzard
(Vote): MLG
(Vote): Dallas


Dallas, because according to Wheat it's a Dallas thing and not an MLG thing, so even with LAN play they wouldn't be able to stream shit out.

Just like how Raleigh and DC were those cities' and blizzard's fault not MLG's. These excuses from MLG are getting really old now, every tournament has been this bad.
deepfield1
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States373 Posts
April 02 2011 21:10 GMT
#4527
so they have been streaming the audience for 45 minutes now without the stream crashing.. can we please see a game?

Ramboness
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden99 Posts
April 02 2011 21:10 GMT
#4528
Poll: Why are you still watching MLG?

Good question (185)
 
73%

Have nothing better to do (46)
 
18%

Cause of the casters (23)
 
9%

254 total votes

Your vote: Why are you still watching MLG?

(Vote): Cause of the casters
(Vote): Have nothing better to do
(Vote): Good question


Zerg - greZ
Airship
Profile Joined August 2010
United States465 Posts
April 02 2011 21:10 GMT
#4529
On April 03 2011 06:09 Diks wrote:
I'm sorry guys, I started watching the game way earlier (first game of DDE vs Grubby)
I had to leave the house, I traveled a bit, watched a movie at the cinema, played some games at a LAN cafe, then I visited My grand parent's for dinner. After that I went clubbing and I slept for a few hours.
What happened since I left ?


ahahahaa kill me
Kerm
Profile Joined April 2010
France467 Posts
April 02 2011 21:10 GMT
#4530
On April 03 2011 06:09 gruff wrote:
200 pages and about 20 about the actual games.


i think that's analog to the amount of air time / actual game broadcasted
What i know is that I know nothing - [http://twitter.com/UncleKerm]
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
April 02 2011 21:10 GMT
#4531
On April 03 2011 06:10 zYwi3c wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 06:08 keeblur wrote:
Poll: Who do you blame for this mess?

MLG (217)
 
69%

Blizzard (69)
 
22%

Dallas (29)
 
9%

315 total votes

Your vote: Who do you blame for this mess?

(Vote): Blizzard
(Vote): MLG
(Vote): Dallas



Why would u blame blizzard ? MLG connection is a big failure, bnet is working fine.


No LAN support.
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 21:11:23
April 02 2011 21:10 GMT
#4532
On April 03 2011 06:04 sickoota wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 05:58 Skyze wrote:
On April 03 2011 05:53 Yaotzin wrote:
On April 03 2011 05:51 -_- wrote:
On April 03 2011 05:49 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Dam incontrol probably won't beat Naniwa, his PvP is kinda lacking.


PVP is a match where the underdog can win. He's got a puncher's chance like everyone else in PVP.

MC's PvP record disproves this. It's a matchup that can be dominated as much as any.


The thing is, its a match that is dominated by smart decision making and superior micro.. something that is generally lacking by most players because they practice build orders instead of understanding game sense..

You can tell this by all the rage about InControl's pylon vs TLO yesterday.. InControl said it best; "The opportunity presented itself, and I took it.".. Dont bash InControl because hes smart.

PvP is really about who can outsmart your opponent, and micro the best. Thats why MC almost always wins, and the only time in recent history we've seen him lose is when White-Ra showed him alittle creative warp prism play.

People just dont understand MC is not your average "practice 12 hours a day til my builds are smooth" player.. Hes really a strategic genius, and thats what wins him games. He takes the best positions and opportunities giving to him and it makes him look imbalanced because everything always falls into place.

Thats why hes the most likely SC2 "Bonjwa" and seems unbeatable while everyone else thinks the game is a rock-paper-scissors game..


You don't play protoss obviously. PvP build order is everything, and you chose your build order blindly. If you chose the same build order the better control wins, and if one player is better/worse build order disadvantages can be overcome, but its primarily rock/paper scissors. "Strategic genius" doesn't scout your opponents base. MC wins alot because he guesses correctly alot (reading your opponent is a skill within itself which MC obviously has in bundles) but right now the better player is never guaranteed to win a PvP. For example the MC vs white-ra game. Most non tosses were probably ooing and awwing over white-ra's warp prism harass and control. People who play toss turned off the game after MC defensive fourgated and white-ra one gate roboed.


I love PvP, its my favorite match.. I feel confident in any build I do, as long as I dont mess up (forgetting pylon, etc).. but I alternate between standard K4G and 3stalker, along with mixes inbetween and I almost rarely ever get caught off guard with a K4G. My PvP win rate is over 85% (above 3500, but I was top 200 for a month when I played most, with wins over most of the protoss currently in this MLG event) Its the only matchup Im actually good at lol

It really comes down to unit control like you said, but what you can get away with in terms of the build, and when to attack, is the key to the fight. Anyways, my point is, the better micro and smarter decision making will always win in PvP.. You MAY lose a game to a lesser player, but if that happens its 100% your fault, most likely a micro misclick.. A good player will never do a build that dooms him from the start, thats just silly.

My point being, theres MUCH more in PvP than just a build order.. Although I understand why people think that when they have bad control..
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
April 02 2011 21:11 GMT
#4533
On April 03 2011 06:09 Diks wrote:
I'm sorry guys, I started watching the game way earlier (first game of DDE vs Grubby)
I had to leave the house, I traveled a bit, watched a movie at the cinema, played some games at a LAN cafe, then I visited My grand parent's for dinner. After that I went clubbing and I slept for a few hours.
What happened since I left ?


Nothing. Go sleep for a few more hours and we might possibly (if very lucky) have some progress.
My penis is 15 inches long, I'm a Harvard professor and look better than Brad Pitt and Jake Gyllenhaal combined.
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
April 02 2011 21:11 GMT
#4534
Infinity sign has been on a tear this whole tournament. Blank screen and commercials finally gave up. Can't wait to see the open bracket finals between Huk and Infinity Sign.. -_-
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
April 02 2011 21:11 GMT
#4535
On April 03 2011 06:02 Marcus420 wrote:
[image loading]


HAHAHA wow. what is up with these edits hahah theyre making me crack up so hard
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
ffdestiny
Profile Joined September 2010
United States773 Posts
April 02 2011 21:11 GMT
#4536
On April 03 2011 06:10 Derrida wrote:
It's hard to seperate "whining" with "stating the obvious" at the moment. For example if I state that MLG is just a bunch of incompetent group of people who fail at organizing events still in their like 50th event, that is not whining but just stating the obvious.


Actually that is whining, considering MLG is always a fail... and you knew it... and still posted about it. :D
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
April 02 2011 21:11 GMT
#4537
On April 03 2011 06:09 Diks wrote:
I'm sorry guys, I started watching the game way earlier (first game of DDE vs Grubby)
I had to leave the house, I traveled a bit, watched a movie at the cinema, played some games at a LAN cafe, then I visited My grand parent's for dinner. After that I went clubbing and I slept for a few hours.
What happened since I left ?


One short game was played in 4 hours while you were gone, you are missing one hell of a tournament man!
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
April 02 2011 21:11 GMT
#4538
On April 03 2011 06:07 QuikTrig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 06:04 Soap wrote:
On April 03 2011 06:03 QuikTrig wrote:
what's funny is that most people bashing MLG have probably seen one, two, or at the most three events on the site -- probably just for SC.

don't get me wrong, these delays and errors are inexcusable. but if you really think MLG has consistently been ill-prepared, you are seriously mistaken. other then some minor hiccups every once in a while, this is the first time I've seen things go this wrong with MLG in years. literally.


Its not even the first time in the same city...

what are you referring to exactly? i'm speaking moreso from a halo players perspective. they have been running this tournament for years and it's been reliable, efficient, and has done a TON for that community. i love SC as well, but i don't like how the organization is being bashed to a pulp when it has definitely earned its credibility if you have tried watching more than a few events.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168202
Yokoblue
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada594 Posts
April 02 2011 21:11 GMT
#4539
Look at the guy dancing about middle row almost middle of the screen LOL
Master League playing Protoss and Zerg
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
April 02 2011 21:11 GMT
#4540
On April 03 2011 06:10 SpiZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 06:10 zYwi3c wrote:
On April 03 2011 06:08 keeblur wrote:
Poll: Who do you blame for this mess?

MLG (217)
 
69%

Blizzard (69)
 
22%

Dallas (29)
 
9%

315 total votes

Your vote: Who do you blame for this mess?

(Vote): Blizzard
(Vote): MLG
(Vote): Dallas



Why would u blame blizzard ? MLG connection is a big failure, bnet is working fine.


No LAN support.


Works decent for other tournaments though
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