EPTLets see if they are serious or not, tomorrow, tomorrow is the proof.
The next tournament results will be for me the real proof if international community is rather getting their foots near code S material...
Lan environment, big prizes, NO excuses.
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murtas
Portugal249 Posts
Lets see if they are serious or not, tomorrow, tomorrow is the proof. The next tournament results will be for me the real proof if international community is rather getting their foots near code S material... Lan environment, big prizes, NO excuses. | ||
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Instigata
United States546 Posts
Waiting for the next matches where they have been saving the best players. Although I'm surprised they used Sen so fast. | ||
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GwSC
United States1997 Posts
On March 29 2011 05:07 Titorelli wrote: The interviews by Kelly are quite nice - http://de.justin.tv/kellymilkies/b/282503920. Esp Sen saying that the Koreans were not playing seriously. Awesome thanks for the link. Some interesting stuff in there. At 17min, Sen says he thinks Forcefield is overpowered in PvZ. | ||
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Alexj
Ukraine440 Posts
You're saying that Nada won 3 OSLs and 3 MSLs which means he is obviously more skilled Then when people point out that he did obvious mechanical errors (losing first banshee, getting supply blocked, not expanding while toss can't leave his base), you say: oh, but he doesn't practice So did Nada loose because the game is too random and "volatile" or because he did obvious errors and didn't practice enough? I personally didn't see anything random in TT1's win. It wasn't even a BO win, as TT1 sinked 600 minerals into static defense and still lost a few probres and units. He was pinned to his base and Nada didn't bother to use it | ||
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mycro
Sweden1579 Posts
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Blaine
Italy188 Posts
Looking forward to Morrow vs MC in the world championship | ||
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Ezze
Canada934 Posts
On March 29 2011 05:27 hitman133 wrote: I think Koreans didn't play seriously. I mean who expect NaDa to all-in like that ? We all know he's a macro-beast right ? MC, MVP, Nestea didn't play. Anypro and San was the weakest in that top 8. MKP didn't play at his best, we know his TvZ already. Cool excuses lol. Some people can never just accept the facts. MC himself or MVP recently said in an interview that anypro prime and sanZenith are the 2 best protosses on the planet... | ||
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darkest44
United States1009 Posts
This isn't sc1, esports have become alot more popular and streaming has taken off, nonkoreans can actually play the game professionally and make a living so they can play as much as koreans now. Not to mention the game isn't 10 years old, so its not as hard for newer people to catch up to pros who have been playing bw forever. I love gomtv for putting this together, please support them by buying tickets in future tournaments. | ||
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Titorelli
2492 Posts
On March 29 2011 05:48 Grummler wrote: Nice interviews. Whats up with the foreigners thinking that the koreans didnt play serious though? Idk, I think it was around those carrier questions, so maybe because san chose carriers and Sen thinks they suck and thus infers that the Koreans did not play seriously. Plus, he said he wouldntve won against MKP under normal circumstances. I really like the part where she asks Morrow about the Swedish pro house with TLO and he first says "No, this is just a rumour" and then says "I cannot talk about it right now" :D And WhiteRa "Why I am baller? Idk ask my wife" :D | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On March 29 2011 06:03 GwSC wrote: Awesome thanks for the link. Some interesting stuff in there. At 17min, Sen says he thinks Forcefield is overpowered in PvZ. Sen's made that clear far before this interview.... Anyway, I don't have time to watch the entire interview right now, but why did Sen say the Koreans weren't playing seriously? Was Sen and the other world players just being really humble, or was there something about their play that indicated they weren't being serious? If it's true, it's pretty disappointing.... Maybe they want to throw off the foreigners for the actual 16-person tournament coming up, since that's worth money? Either way, it could very well be true, but I find it rather disappointing and a bit annoying that the foreigners think that the Koreans didn't play their best. However, I don't know the whole story. Maybe they see the showmatch as just a fun, friendly thing to mess around in - maybe they're not aware how badly many people on TL want to use the showmatch as a gauge for how well foreigners match up to Koreans, given the TSL controversy. It's pretty lame though. I remember when I'd beat opponents that I thought were very good in badminton during practice, only to hear from other people that my opponent wasn't really trying for one reason or another.  | ||
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Wesso
Netherlands1245 Posts
On March 29 2011 06:03 Instigata wrote: You see pros losing on streams to random ladder people. Foreigners had the chance to go to Korea in BW but everyone but Idra hated it because of the amount of training you had to do just to be pretty good. Now foreigners are in Korea because you don't have to the same amount of practice to win vs top players. If you had to put in the mandatory hours in Sc2 just to be mechanically sound I bet there would be no TL house. They probably play some a day and just have fun but practice more before big matches and in Sc2 that's good enough. I think this is a good thing though. If professional soccer players needed to train for 10+ hours a day, soccer wouldn't be that big of a sport. (this counts for almost any sport) | ||
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JJH777
United States4420 Posts
On March 29 2011 06:10 Ezze wrote: Cool excuses lol. Some people can never just accept the facts. MC himself or MVP recently said in an interview that anypro prime and sanZenith are the 2 best protosses on the planet... Source? MC would never say anyone but himself is the best and I can't picture MVP saying anyone besides MC is the best. | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On March 29 2011 06:10 Ezze wrote: Cool excuses lol. Some people can never just accept the facts. MC himself or MVP recently said in an interview that anypro prime and sanZenith are the 2 best protosses on the planet... This isn't about people making excuses, though. Our very own foreign players are saying that the Koreans didn't play seriously, for some reason. Why would our foreign players try to downplay their very own achievements to such an extent if they didn't feel that it was true? The only thing I can think of is a huge amount of humility on our foreigner's parts. | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On March 29 2011 06:13 JJH777 wrote: Source? MC would never say anyone but himself is the best and I can't picture MVP saying anyone besides MC is the best. MC said that Alicia is the second best and San is the third best Protoss in an interview following his March GSL win. Don't know about any more recent interviews, though. | ||
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Murdoink
Chile1219 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10383 Posts
Or are they all just playing on NA server so that the Koreans lag xD Just watched this. Holy crap. Gom tournaments just get more and more epic and amazing. Also I'm laughing my ass off at all the idiots during the TSL this weekend saying koreans only lost cause of lag and whining over and over how the tournament was so stupid cause koreans would destroy without lag. What now idiots? This is just proof that the world is catching up to korea, even if they lose the overall tourney, they won 4 games off top koreans already and that is proof enough. Hold your horses, first you're generalizing and remember this is only Day 1. So that's just insult to injury. | ||
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GwSC
United States1997 Posts
On March 29 2011 06:11 HolyArrow wrote: Maybe they see the showmatch as just a fun, friendly thing to mess around in - maybe they're not aware how badly many people on TL want to use the showmatch as a gauge for how well foreigners match up to Koreans, given the TSL controversy. I'm sure that is it. That is what the 1v1 tournament that actually has a prize pool is for. I also doubt the koreans players really want to reveal too much of their strategy so close to that tournament. | ||
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entlassen
United States139 Posts
On March 29 2011 05:58 zasda wrote: they don't play the matches 2 weeks in advance dood, think a little, it helps hey smart guy, you do realize the TSL matches actually ARE played well in advance right? because it's an online tournament and not played/broadcasted live, once two players know who they're matched against for the next round, they have a wide window of time to mutually decide when to play their matches, as long as they submit the replays before the designated deadline. for example, djwheat & day9 mentioned last weekend that one of the ro32 matches was played back in January! so yeah, it was and is totally possible that some of the TSL ro16 matches have already been played even though the public cast is 2 weeks away! thanks to the people who said MC was probably talking about the FXOpen though. | ||
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JJH777
United States4420 Posts
Also I should say that just because I don't think they are playing seriously doesn't mean I don't think the foreigners played extremely well and I should restate it. I don't think the koreans prepared like they do for the regular GSL where they prepare specific builds for every map for each match up. I think most of them are just relying on their fundamentals for this team thing. | ||
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
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