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defuzas
Profile Joined July 2009
248 Posts
March 26 2011 22:30 GMT
#7801
im sad for ret, but overall amazing games today :-)
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
March 26 2011 22:30 GMT
#7802
On March 27 2011 07:27 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 07:23 goiflin wrote:
Even as a low-level Protoss player, I am surprised that in all those games Ret allowed the Protoss to get exactly the army he wanted. That is the one thing every Protoss player wants - Free rein to get the exact death ball and Naniwa got it in every game. Really, really surprised at that.


How do you suggest he stop him from doing that? Dropping obviously didn't work in the first game, and sentries/zeals shut down all zergling agression in the early game. As a matter of fact, sentries shut down all agression in the early game.

I'm sure ret of all people would know how to handle it, I just think that it might not be as easy as just denying him from getting a certain unit composition.

Maybe not focusing as much as he did on roaches, or something.


IdrA has seemed to all but given up on roach/hydra in ZvP due to how crap they are against force field and colossus, and has been doing extremely heavy zergling/baneling into infestor in his ladder matches.

Zerg usually get far ahead of protoss in econ, but die anyway to the 3 base deathball. So IdrA does crazy stuff like running 25 banes into a protoss third nexus. Sure you lose 2500/1250, but a 2 base protoss is far far far weaker than a 3 base protoss.

Hope he tries it vs Cruncher


Carpet bomb it with banelings :D

Even more entertainment value!

But yeah, zergs are going to have to pull the proverbial rabbit out of the hat to deal with protoss' amazing late game builds. It'll be intresting to see where it goes.
St0chastic
Profile Joined March 2011
United States103 Posts
March 26 2011 22:30 GMT
#7803
Poll: Which series result today do you consider most shocking?

NesTea vs. Goody (121)
 
64%

Mvp vs. Adelscott (50)
 
26%

qxc vs. Genius (13)
 
7%

NaNiwa vs. Ret (5)
 
3%

189 total votes

Your vote: Which series result today do you consider most shocking?

(Vote): Mvp vs. Adelscott
(Vote): qxc vs. Genius
(Vote): NesTea vs. Goody
(Vote): NaNiwa vs. Ret

ftd.rain
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom539 Posts
March 26 2011 22:30 GMT
#7804
On March 27 2011 07:28 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 07:23 ffadicted wrote:
IM.MVP picked over Mill.Adelscott in 96% of brackets
MVP_Genius picked over FXO.qxc in 67% of brackets
IM.NesTea picked over ESC.GoOdy in 97% of brackets
TLAF-Liquid`Ret picked over dignitas.NaNiwa in 74% of brackets

and I thought the GSL this year was full of upsets.... lol

I don't get the MVP one. Protoss is his worst match up and kept him in code A. Adel is a top protoss.

Anyway I'm 3/4 cuz I bet right there.

He won against various top protoss recently @GSTL and no , adel is NOT a top protoss.
Raiznhell
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada786 Posts
March 26 2011 22:31 GMT
#7805
On March 27 2011 07:23 St0chastic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 07:21 AndAgain wrote:
On March 27 2011 07:19 artanis2 wrote:
I do want to know the explanation for the backdoor attention that naniwa had just before Ret attacked.


Naniwa has game sense.


If you could somehow combine Ret's macro with Naniwa's decision making and micro you would have an amazing player.


SlayerS_MMA
Cake or Death?
Kvothe
Profile Joined September 2010
201 Posts
March 26 2011 22:31 GMT
#7806
On March 27 2011 07:29 Tef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 07:24 Kvothe wrote:
On March 27 2011 07:23 Kazzabiss wrote:
On March 27 2011 07:21 Kvothe wrote:
On March 27 2011 07:20 Shika wrote:
On March 27 2011 07:18 Owii wrote:
4 upsets?


Last game was hardly an upset.

I went 3/4 on my liquidbet tonight. Only missed on qxc's game, he has obviously improved by playing in europe.


You are somehow proud you called goody vs nestea, fluke of the century. Go watch some of Goody's matches on gosugamers, and then come back and seriously tell me he is at half the level nestea is.

What? How is he proud for one, and two, whaaaaaat? I also "called" GoOdy over NesTea because I'm smart


No that is called luck, Goody would lose first round in Code A 9 out of 10 times.


You seriously underestimate him. As most of his opponents do if they have never played him before.


I've watched many of his games on gosugamers, I thought he was a low tier amateur then, and I still think he is now. You say under estimated, I say many people watch his games and realize hes bad. I agree with that majority.
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
March 26 2011 22:31 GMT
#7807
Hmm.... it's over already? Looks like I missed all the action.
Chin-
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3 Posts
March 26 2011 22:31 GMT
#7808
On March 27 2011 06:40 MBH wrote:
Don't know if anybody mentioned it but Goody was on Skype with Take during the last minutes of his champions trophy broadcast and gave a short interview a few minutes ago.

He said the games were actualy played on wednesday and how hard it was for him to keep quite about the results. Also the games went as he were expecting them hehe...
Thanks a lot for bringing this spoiler to the LR thread before the conclusion of the match.

The games were still entertaining but come on. How could you think spoiling the outcome would be appreciated?
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
March 26 2011 22:32 GMT
#7809
Current Voting Streak 6 Wrong votes in a row



Man, ret played amazingly.................... then did a minor screw up and lost the game. Sucks to see, but im sure he'll return stronger!!
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2609 Posts
March 26 2011 22:32 GMT
#7810
On March 27 2011 07:30 lurked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 07:26 chrisolo wrote:
On March 27 2011 07:19 artanis2 wrote:
I do want to know the explanation for the backdoor attention that naniwa had just before Ret attacked.


He clearly has maphack.


+ Show Spoiler +
Just like MiStrZZZ in the good old Broodwar days *rolleyes*


In my opinion, it's because of good intuition, as Ret was always pretty far forward with his roaches in that game, except at the exact moment, where Ret's his roaches stayed out of his vision for more than a minute, and it was the only part of the map that he couldn't see, except Ret's bases and the top...

And it's not like he kept all of his army at the back of his base waiting, he kept a small group of units defending his base, running from his main entrance to the back door....



Maybe you don't know BW, but I was sarcastic. MiStrZZZ was a BW Protoss, who had a real good game sense, which provoced people to claim he has maphack till it was proven that he didn't. So yea, I was being sarcastic
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
March 26 2011 22:32 GMT
#7811
On March 27 2011 07:29 Yubel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 07:27 Kazzabiss wrote:
On March 27 2011 07:21 Zozo wrote:
On March 26 2011 23:10 Zozo wrote:
Adel
Genius
Goody
Naniwa

I really hope Goody wins, he's a lot of fun to watch. It's gonna come down to how well Nestea controls his infestors, fungal on the vikings is key to win against Mr. Tank.


So I got Genius wrong, QXC is better no question, but for some reason I thought the korean would just proxy or 4gate all games successfully.

Tomorrow is looking amazing :D

What the fuck?

I think he means that QXC was much better than he had expected after his IEM performance. The games werent that surprising though since all of QXC fans know he is the king of EMPs.

No I'm talking about his reasoning, "QXC is better no question" " the korean would just proxy or 4gate all games successfully [(Genius the ultimate Macro toss])" and he voted for Adel and Goody, so that means he thinks they are better than NesTea and Mvp
ALL ABOARD THE INTERNET BANDWAGON
TitleRug
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States651 Posts
March 26 2011 22:32 GMT
#7812
wow naniwas game sense is amazing. He discovered the roaches attacking the backdoor so fast. In the first game he defended so many drops. He would be a great player if he scouted more.
coLCruncher fighting!
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
March 26 2011 22:32 GMT
#7813
Today the Koreans need this:

http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
Cytokinesis
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada330 Posts
March 26 2011 22:32 GMT
#7814
Can someone give me quick answer, please? Was todays games on 1.2 or 1.3 patch? I thought they were played on 1.2 but friend says 1.3.
Ive seen people who dont believe in sleep count sheep with calculators that double as alarm clocks
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 22:36:36
March 26 2011 22:32 GMT
#7815
Disappointed overall, especially for the Goody vs Nestea series. Goody's mechanics are sub-par to say the least and Nestea made several bizarre distances to throw away units when generally he is extremely economical with his unit/drone production. The Game 2 push was a nice metagame move by Goody but that's about it. Constantly supply-blocked, always having units queued...this is a top player? His mech play is undoubtedly refined, but it's a one-trick pony.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
March 26 2011 22:32 GMT
#7816
On March 27 2011 07:29 Brad wrote:
Ret will only get better. You can see he has godly mechanics. The strategy will come in time.

Underdog because 74% picked him to lose.

I didbt tho War Nani !!
MC for president
TeMiL
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Peru545 Posts
March 26 2011 22:33 GMT
#7817
so koreans are not owning everyone like they said
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
March 26 2011 22:33 GMT
#7818
On March 27 2011 07:32 Cytokinesis wrote:
Can someone give me quick answer, please? Was todays games on 1.2 or 1.3 patch? I thought they were played on 1.2 but friend says 1.3.

probably 1.3 since they hosted the rep via multiplayer I believe O_O
THE ANSWER IS 288
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
March 26 2011 22:33 GMT
#7819
At first I was excited seeing Ret getting away with being so greedy, thinking I was going to see some monster plays. But instead, fail attack after fail attack, then its max low-tech zerg vs max protoss. gg ?

Naniwa played against Ret's style very well. It didn't seem intuitive to let Ret macro that hard, but seems Ret sticking with mass expansions and low-tech units was his downfall. I would have loved to see some infestors in the mix at least.
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
LorDo
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden485 Posts
March 26 2011 22:34 GMT
#7820
On March 27 2011 07:32 Cytokinesis wrote:
Can someone give me quick answer, please? Was todays games on 1.2 or 1.3 patch? I thought they were played on 1.2 but friend says 1.3.


Your friend is correct.
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