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Players such as Jinro, HuK, and Adelscott did not apply for this tour, so don't ask why they aren't on this list. DIMAGA, Kas, and LaLush turned applications in late so they will not appear either. Please take some time to learn who exactly applied.

Please inform yourself about who applied and who didn't.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
March 23 2011 22:22 GMT
#561
Looking good. It's always sad that there's only 50 player though. You know there's going to be a few players you want to see, but aren't going to make it in.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 23 2011 22:25 GMT
#562
On March 24 2011 07:19 ffadicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 07:01 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:44 alexhard wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:42 jmbthirteen wrote:
Instead of looking at whether the player is Korean or not, please look at the skill of the players. Sure Moon is the only Korean, but Idra and Sen are two top players in the world. Idra was consistently placing better each season in Code S. Sen is also an extremely talented player. He just won GCPL for Fnatic and was very good in TSL. So yeah they aren't Korean, but are definitely good enough to compete with them.


...and that is why nobody has said a word about Idra and Sen. Other players that have been selected are not, however, at Idra's and Sen's level.


did you expect a tournament full of Koreans? Well thats your problem right there if you did.


I expected NASL to be a serious league, where the best players are invited to compete. Not a minor league where the quality is like comparing NBA to local high school ball.

So in other words, yes lol


It is a serious league. Why does every serious league have to be only korean players in it? Don't you find that boring? I mean jeez comments like these are just annoying to read its called the North american star league not Korean star league. Korean's have GSL, now we have MLG and NASL.
When I think of something else, something will go here
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
March 23 2011 22:34 GMT
#563
On March 24 2011 07:25 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 07:19 ffadicted wrote:
On March 24 2011 07:01 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:44 alexhard wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:42 jmbthirteen wrote:
Instead of looking at whether the player is Korean or not, please look at the skill of the players. Sure Moon is the only Korean, but Idra and Sen are two top players in the world. Idra was consistently placing better each season in Code S. Sen is also an extremely talented player. He just won GCPL for Fnatic and was very good in TSL. So yeah they aren't Korean, but are definitely good enough to compete with them.


...and that is why nobody has said a word about Idra and Sen. Other players that have been selected are not, however, at Idra's and Sen's level.


did you expect a tournament full of Koreans? Well thats your problem right there if you did.


I expected NASL to be a serious league, where the best players are invited to compete. Not a minor league where the quality is like comparing NBA to local high school ball.

So in other words, yes lol


It is a serious league. Why does every serious league have to be only korean players in it? Don't you find that boring? I mean jeez comments like these are just annoying to read its called the North american star league not Korean star league. Korean's have GSL, now we have MLG and NASL.


Again, not a matter of "are you korean or not", but a matter of "are you one of the best in the world or not". It just so happens that at this point in time, most of the best players are koreans taht applied for the league
SooYoung-Noona!
gamefan15
Profile Joined March 2011
50 Posts
March 23 2011 22:46 GMT
#564
On March 24 2011 07:19 ffadicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 07:01 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:44 alexhard wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:42 jmbthirteen wrote:
Instead of looking at whether the player is Korean or not, please look at the skill of the players. Sure Moon is the only Korean, but Idra and Sen are two top players in the world. Idra was consistently placing better each season in Code S. Sen is also an extremely talented player. He just won GCPL for Fnatic and was very good in TSL. So yeah they aren't Korean, but are definitely good enough to compete with them.


...and that is why nobody has said a word about Idra and Sen. Other players that have been selected are not, however, at Idra's and Sen's level.


did you expect a tournament full of Koreans? Well thats your problem right there if you did.


I expected NASL to be a serious league, where the best players are invited to compete. Not a minor league where the quality is like comparing NBA to local high school ball. Not a matter of "are these players good", but a matter of "are these the best that could've been picked"

So in other words, yes lol


with your level of exaggeration I guess before the TSL started thorzain vs fruitdealer was like michael jordan vs a librarian.
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
March 23 2011 22:47 GMT
#565
Machine was a surprising choice, but I'm glad he made it in - he's often overshadowed by Idra, iNc, and Axslav for EG (and now Grubby).. Also, it's nice seeing almost all the main ROOT players getting in (just waiting on Drewbie now, he'll probably be a "on the bubble" choice).

*God have mercy on whoever else are the poor saps who get to round out division 5. Barring a top-tier Korean getting tossed in there, I'd say there's probably a good chance of the top 2 already being selected (Idra, Sen, Socke, and Cloud, who I hadn't heard of, but apparently has very good results in EU). Definitely heads-and-shoulders above the other divisions in strength, so far...though that could change with a few more solid additions to division 1, and assuming Fenix bounces back from a poor showing at IEM..
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
March 23 2011 22:49 GMT
#566
Just listened to the SotG and when they talk about the player list it really sounds like they refuse to take criticism. I don't necessarily agree with all of the picks but that doesn't mean I can't express that.
Icekommander
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada483 Posts
March 23 2011 22:50 GMT
#567
On March 24 2011 07:19 ffadicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 07:01 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:44 alexhard wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:42 jmbthirteen wrote:
Instead of looking at whether the player is Korean or not, please look at the skill of the players. Sure Moon is the only Korean, but Idra and Sen are two top players in the world. Idra was consistently placing better each season in Code S. Sen is also an extremely talented player. He just won GCPL for Fnatic and was very good in TSL. So yeah they aren't Korean, but are definitely good enough to compete with them.


...and that is why nobody has said a word about Idra and Sen. Other players that have been selected are not, however, at Idra's and Sen's level.


did you expect a tournament full of Koreans? Well thats your problem right there if you did.


I expected NASL to be a serious league, where the best players are invited to compete. Not a minor league where the quality is like comparing NBA to local high school ball. Not a matter of "are these players good", but a matter of "are these the best that could've been picked"

So in other words, yes lol


It's more like comparing it to College Ball. And nobody ever watches events like March Madness
Time Flies like an arrow. Fruit Flies like a banana.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
March 23 2011 22:50 GMT
#568
Who refuses to take criticism?
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aiRburst
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia15 Posts
March 23 2011 22:51 GMT
#569
I think as spectators, it's fair for us to want to watch the best of the best play. We want to be wowed with the best timings, the most innovative play, the best macro/micro, the most superior control and the best knowledge of the game. The people invited may tick some of those boxes, but the truth is that people participating in code A/S probably have a better grasp overall.
I can understand that Americans want a better chance at bagging the prize money, but personally, I want to see the best duke it out, regardless of where they are from. If Americans want to show that they are world class, they need to test themselves against the best and come out on top.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 23 2011 22:51 GMT
#570
On March 24 2011 07:34 ffadicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 07:25 blade55555 wrote:
On March 24 2011 07:19 ffadicted wrote:
On March 24 2011 07:01 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:44 alexhard wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:42 jmbthirteen wrote:
Instead of looking at whether the player is Korean or not, please look at the skill of the players. Sure Moon is the only Korean, but Idra and Sen are two top players in the world. Idra was consistently placing better each season in Code S. Sen is also an extremely talented player. He just won GCPL for Fnatic and was very good in TSL. So yeah they aren't Korean, but are definitely good enough to compete with them.


...and that is why nobody has said a word about Idra and Sen. Other players that have been selected are not, however, at Idra's and Sen's level.


did you expect a tournament full of Koreans? Well thats your problem right there if you did.


I expected NASL to be a serious league, where the best players are invited to compete. Not a minor league where the quality is like comparing NBA to local high school ball.

So in other words, yes lol


It is a serious league. Why does every serious league have to be only korean players in it? Don't you find that boring? I mean jeez comments like these are just annoying to read its called the North american star league not Korean star league. Korean's have GSL, now we have MLG and NASL.


Again, not a matter of "are you korean or not", but a matter of "are you one of the best in the world or not". It just so happens that at this point in time, most of the best players are koreans taht applied for the league


So TSL has a lot of the top players in the world right? Well 10 of the 20 players announced so far are in TSL. Its pretty safe to say even more will be invited too. Again people are judging before all 50 players are announced.

No region was going to dominate the selections, including Koreans. People need to be realistic. I was expecting around 10 Koreans and it is still an easily obtainable goal.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 22:56:48
March 23 2011 22:53 GMT
#571
On March 24 2011 07:46 gamefan15 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 07:19 ffadicted wrote:
On March 24 2011 07:01 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:44 alexhard wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:42 jmbthirteen wrote:
Instead of looking at whether the player is Korean or not, please look at the skill of the players. Sure Moon is the only Korean, but Idra and Sen are two top players in the world. Idra was consistently placing better each season in Code S. Sen is also an extremely talented player. He just won GCPL for Fnatic and was very good in TSL. So yeah they aren't Korean, but are definitely good enough to compete with them.


...and that is why nobody has said a word about Idra and Sen. Other players that have been selected are not, however, at Idra's and Sen's level.


did you expect a tournament full of Koreans? Well thats your problem right there if you did.


I expected NASL to be a serious league, where the best players are invited to compete. Not a minor league where the quality is like comparing NBA to local high school ball. Not a matter of "are these players good", but a matter of "are these the best that could've been picked"

So in other words, yes lol


with your level of exaggeration I guess before the TSL started thorzain vs fruitdealer was like michael jordan vs a librarian.


Infact it was. But I think we all realized FD is sadly not keeping up with today's talent and has been steadily falling behind the curve. I wouldn't take this example as a good representation of Koreans vs Foreigners.

On topic or off I agree with adicted's response completely.

So TSL has a lot of the top players in the world right? Well 10 of the 20 players announced so far are in TSL. Its pretty safe to say even more will be invited too. Again people are judging before all 50 players are announced.

No region was going to dominate the selections, including Koreans. People need to be realistic. I was expecting around 10 Koreans and it is still an easily obtainable goal.


Expecting 10 Koreans after the first 20 have alrdy been announced, with only 1 Korean is kinda optimistic. They're gonna have to release groups of pure Koreans to match that goal at this point.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
space_yes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States548 Posts
March 23 2011 22:54 GMT
#572
This was probably mentioned somewhere, but I noticed every group so far is T/P/Z. I like it.
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
March 23 2011 22:57 GMT
#573
On March 24 2011 07:34 ffadicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 07:25 blade55555 wrote:
On March 24 2011 07:19 ffadicted wrote:
On March 24 2011 07:01 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:44 alexhard wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:42 jmbthirteen wrote:
Instead of looking at whether the player is Korean or not, please look at the skill of the players. Sure Moon is the only Korean, but Idra and Sen are two top players in the world. Idra was consistently placing better each season in Code S. Sen is also an extremely talented player. He just won GCPL for Fnatic and was very good in TSL. So yeah they aren't Korean, but are definitely good enough to compete with them.


...and that is why nobody has said a word about Idra and Sen. Other players that have been selected are not, however, at Idra's and Sen's level.


did you expect a tournament full of Koreans? Well thats your problem right there if you did.


I expected NASL to be a serious league, where the best players are invited to compete. Not a minor league where the quality is like comparing NBA to local high school ball.

So in other words, yes lol


It is a serious league. Why does every serious league have to be only korean players in it? Don't you find that boring? I mean jeez comments like these are just annoying to read its called the North american star league not Korean star league. Korean's have GSL, now we have MLG and NASL.


Again, not a matter of "are you korean or not", but a matter of "are you one of the best in the world or not". It just so happens that at this point in time, most of the best players are koreans taht applied for the league

They are inviting the best AND most interesting players players that applied... :s
Not sure why anyone would expect otherwise.

It's not their fault players like MKP, Nestea, MVP didn't apply. NASL can't make them and certainly can't add them to the league if they don't apply.

They have to do their best to make the tournament exciting to watch. With all respect for a bunch of the koreans that applied, the majority of people aren't gonna get hyped up for oGsTheWind vs SlayerSFrozen, even if they are in the top50 of the applicants. They wanna see the majority of the western scene testing their skills against the top koreans. Not average koreans because some of the top players didn't apply.
I wouldn't mind having up to 10-15 koreans if it's the very top CodeS players, but they didn't join. I'd prefer the remaining spots to be taken up by the top western players instead of second tier koreans.

I'm positive players like Nada, Boxer, MC and July are gonna get in, both because they are top level players and because they would draw a large crowd. At least you are in no position to whine about them not getting in before everything has been announced.


I realise it's all a matter of opinion, so we'll never agree.
I DO however know that making conclusions when they haven't even announced half the players yet is just plain stupid. At least hold back your shitstorms untill you know what you are whining about.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
March 23 2011 22:58 GMT
#574
On March 24 2011 06:23 K4m4Hl wrote:
No boxer, no whitera, no artosis makes me a sad panda :<

Certain they will be leaving the obvious fan favorites towards the end, for a more dramatic affect. At least I hope so.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
March 23 2011 23:00 GMT
#575
Need more players announced tbh haha, so curious to see who is gonna be in

And somewhat related, it decides which tickets I have to buy, downside of this many awesome tournaments is I dont have time to watch all. And ill get the ticket for tournament with most interesting fights for me.
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
March 23 2011 23:00 GMT
#576
On March 24 2011 07:53 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 07:46 gamefan15 wrote:
On March 24 2011 07:19 ffadicted wrote:
On March 24 2011 07:01 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:44 alexhard wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:42 jmbthirteen wrote:
Instead of looking at whether the player is Korean or not, please look at the skill of the players. Sure Moon is the only Korean, but Idra and Sen are two top players in the world. Idra was consistently placing better each season in Code S. Sen is also an extremely talented player. He just won GCPL for Fnatic and was very good in TSL. So yeah they aren't Korean, but are definitely good enough to compete with them.


...and that is why nobody has said a word about Idra and Sen. Other players that have been selected are not, however, at Idra's and Sen's level.


did you expect a tournament full of Koreans? Well thats your problem right there if you did.


I expected NASL to be a serious league, where the best players are invited to compete. Not a minor league where the quality is like comparing NBA to local high school ball. Not a matter of "are these players good", but a matter of "are these the best that could've been picked"

So in other words, yes lol


with your level of exaggeration I guess before the TSL started thorzain vs fruitdealer was like michael jordan vs a librarian.


Infact it was. But I think we all realized FD is sadly not keeping up with today's talent and has been steadily falling behind the curve. I wouldn't take this example as a good representation of Koreans vs Foreigners.

On topic or off I agree with adicted's response completely.

Show nested quote +
So TSL has a lot of the top players in the world right? Well 10 of the 20 players announced so far are in TSL. Its pretty safe to say even more will be invited too. Again people are judging before all 50 players are announced.

No region was going to dominate the selections, including Koreans. People need to be realistic. I was expecting around 10 Koreans and it is still an easily obtainable goal.


Expecting 10 Koreans after the first 20 have alrdy been announced, with only 1 Korean is kinda optimistic. They're gonna have to release groups of pure Koreans to match that goal at this point.


It's funny, when a foreigner beat a Korean it's because they are bad and when they lose to lower ranked Koreans (Ace Squirtle) it proves without a shadow of a doubt that the Korean scene is miles higher than everyone else. You can't have it both ways.
mdma-_-
Profile Joined October 2010
Nauru1213 Posts
March 23 2011 23:01 GMT
#577
On March 24 2011 07:53 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 07:46 gamefan15 wrote:
On March 24 2011 07:19 ffadicted wrote:
On March 24 2011 07:01 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:44 alexhard wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:42 jmbthirteen wrote:
Instead of looking at whether the player is Korean or not, please look at the skill of the players. Sure Moon is the only Korean, but Idra and Sen are two top players in the world. Idra was consistently placing better each season in Code S. Sen is also an extremely talented player. He just won GCPL for Fnatic and was very good in TSL. So yeah they aren't Korean, but are definitely good enough to compete with them.


...and that is why nobody has said a word about Idra and Sen. Other players that have been selected are not, however, at Idra's and Sen's level.


did you expect a tournament full of Koreans? Well thats your problem right there if you did.


I expected NASL to be a serious league, where the best players are invited to compete. Not a minor league where the quality is like comparing NBA to local high school ball. Not a matter of "are these players good", but a matter of "are these the best that could've been picked"

So in other words, yes lol


with your level of exaggeration I guess before the TSL started thorzain vs fruitdealer was like michael jordan vs a librarian.


Infact it was. But I think we all realized FD is sadly not keeping up with today's talent and has been steadily falling behind the curve. I wouldn't take this example as a good representation of Koreans vs Foreigners.

On topic or off I agree with adicted's response completely.

but still many people act like everybody in code S is lightyears ahead of every foreigner, yet 3 out of 4 code S players lost in ro32 so far. The gap is not nearly as bad as some in here make it. Somewhere in between 8 to 12 koreans is totally fine. It serves the purpose of having a decent amount of foreigner/korean matches, whilst still keeping it a foreign league.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 23:09:58
March 23 2011 23:03 GMT
#578
On March 24 2011 07:58 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 06:23 K4m4Hl wrote:
No boxer, no whitera, no artosis makes me a sad panda :<

Certain they will be leaving the obvious fan favorites towards the end, for a more dramatic affect. At least I hope so.


Honestly I don't think Artosis deserves a spot. I'd watch him do anything in the world but I don't think he's skilled enough atm to compete with the best in the world. If he gets accepted then it will confirm my suspicion that NASL is picking people that are fan favorites/interesting people over people with the most skill.

but still many people act like everybody in code S is lightyears ahead of every foreigner, yet 3 out of 4 code S players lost in ro32 so far. The gap is not nearly as bad as some in here make it. Somewhere in between 8 to 12 koreans is totally fine. It serves the purpose of having a decent amount of foreigner/korean matches, whilst still keeping it a foreign league


Fruitdealer: Yes he played bad and Thorzain deserves the win.
Huk: I think we all understand Huk's PvP isn't exactly the best and he barely managed to get into code S as it is.
Jinro: Got baneling busted all 3 games and the one time it didn't work Jinro won. Not to take away from Morrow's skill but cmon.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 23 2011 23:09 GMT
#579
On March 24 2011 08:01 mdma-_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 07:53 Zooper31 wrote:
On March 24 2011 07:46 gamefan15 wrote:
On March 24 2011 07:19 ffadicted wrote:
On March 24 2011 07:01 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:44 alexhard wrote:
On March 24 2011 06:42 jmbthirteen wrote:
Instead of looking at whether the player is Korean or not, please look at the skill of the players. Sure Moon is the only Korean, but Idra and Sen are two top players in the world. Idra was consistently placing better each season in Code S. Sen is also an extremely talented player. He just won GCPL for Fnatic and was very good in TSL. So yeah they aren't Korean, but are definitely good enough to compete with them.


...and that is why nobody has said a word about Idra and Sen. Other players that have been selected are not, however, at Idra's and Sen's level.


did you expect a tournament full of Koreans? Well thats your problem right there if you did.


I expected NASL to be a serious league, where the best players are invited to compete. Not a minor league where the quality is like comparing NBA to local high school ball. Not a matter of "are these players good", but a matter of "are these the best that could've been picked"

So in other words, yes lol


with your level of exaggeration I guess before the TSL started thorzain vs fruitdealer was like michael jordan vs a librarian.


Infact it was. But I think we all realized FD is sadly not keeping up with today's talent and has been steadily falling behind the curve. I wouldn't take this example as a good representation of Koreans vs Foreigners.

On topic or off I agree with adicted's response completely.

but still many people act like everybody in code S is lightyears ahead of every foreigner, yet 3 out of 4 code S players lost in ro32 so far. The gap is not nearly as bad as some in here make it. Somewhere in between 8 to 12 koreans is totally fine. It serves the purpose of having a decent amount of foreigner/korean matches, whilst still keeping it a foreign league.


Exactly. Plus the NASL is giving this foreigners a reason to practice like they never have before.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
March 23 2011 23:13 GMT
#580
Why are some people worried about players like WhiteRa not beeing invited? I mean srsly if they invite Fenix or Catz they will invite WhiteRa for sure. Anything lese would be just lol
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