UPDATE: SPECTATOR INFORMATION PARKING/DIRECTIONS: Parking for this event has been secured in the San Jacinto Garage located at 2401 San Jacinto Boulevard, Austin, TX. Parking in the garage for the day is not free. However, there should be an abundance of free parking spots on San Jacinto Blvd. between 23rd St. and Dean Keeton St. Read the signs carefully - some of these spots require a UT parking permit at all times, although most do not. For a map of the area, CLICK HERE!
We're going to have a full schedule of contests, trivia, side tournaments, interviews, and of course unforgettable games. I look forward to seeing everyone there!
PRIZE UPDATES As an update, we have over $1250 in prizes to give away at the event for spectators! Among these are: - Gaming gear from TTesports - Graphic Card and Motherboard from EVGA - Computer Games (Huge thanks to NVIDIA!) - T-shirts (TeSPA, Microsoft, and NVIDIA) - and more!
SPONSOR UPDATES We are excited to announce the newest official sponsor of the Texas e-Sports Association: NVIDIA. We are extremely grateful for what they have contributed to ensure that this tournament and e-sports in Texas is a success. Many thanks to them!
Bracket and Predictions Contest: Before you come to the tournament be sure to visit the bracket page as well and submit your predictions for the tournament. You get raffles for correct predictions. Make sure that when you submit a bracket prediction, you type in your First and Last name in the title so we can identify who made the prediction. You must be present at the end of the day in order to be eligible to win the bracket prediction contests. We will stop accepting entries at 10:00am sharp on Saturday morning.
We are pleased to announce the TeSPA Texas Open, hosted by Texas e-Sports Association, a University of Texas at Austin student organization. Registration for this tournament is open on a first come, first served basis to those that can attend in person. Nearby universities, especially those with notably performing CSL teams, are highly encouraged to attend. At the live tournament, we will have live commentary, contests, giveaways, raffles, and a large cash prize pool.
Texas e-Sports Associations would like to extend a tremendous thanks to our sponsors, who are making this event possible!
TeSPA hosted its first Starcraft 2 tournament in November, 2010. The overall tournament was warmly met by both the community and participants. 64 participants battled it out for the cash prize pool of $700 USD. Notable names included the like of EG.Strifecro, ZpuX, and more.
Given the success of it's first tournament, TeSPA has decided to raise the stakes to make this tournament even more successful. We requested feedback on the tournament, and the participants provided accordingly. We have listened to both the compliments and criticism, and have taken the necessary steps to ensure that this tournament will be as exciting, entertaining, and well-run as possible.
- HIGHLIGHTS - TOTAL PARTICIPANTS: 128 PRIZE POOL: $1500 LOCATION: Austin, Texas – University of Texas campus DATE: 4/16 (Online), 4/23 (LAN in Austin)
Due to the participant cutoff last tournament, we have decided to conduct the tournament in two distinct phases in an effort to better seed players while including all participants that may want to compete. The first phase will be online, double elimination, simplified 128-player bracket. The second phase will be a LAN, single elimination, 64-player bracket.
Phase I: Online Seeding Date: 4/16 Start Time: 4 PM CST End Time: 8 PM CST (Estimated) Players: 128 Style: Double elimination simplified-bracket play Seeding: Ladder score will determine group seeding Result: The top 64 players will advance to the LAN portion of the tournament in Austin, Texas on 2011/4/23.
Phase II: LAN Tournament Date: 4/23 Start Time: 10 AM CST End Time: 8 PM CST (Estimated) Players: 64 players (Advancing from Phase I) Style: 64 player bracket Seeding: Seeding will be be determined from Phase I results Result: The top 8 players will win a cash prize.
Phase I: Online Seeding April 16, 2011: 3:30 PM CST – 4:00 PM CST: Check-in for all participants 4:00 PM CST: Online play begins 8:00 PM CST: Online play ends (estimated)
Special Note: The top eight players from TeSPAs November tournament will be automatically seeded into the RO64 and will not be required to participate in the online brackets.
Phase II: LAN Tournament April 23, 2011: 9:00-10:00 AM CST: Check-in for all participants 10:00-10:20 AM CST: Welcoming Ceremony 10:20-11:30 AM CST: RO 64: Heat 1 11:40 AM - 12:45pm PM CST: RO 64: Heat 2 1:00-2:00 PM CST: Lunch Break* *Contests and interviews will occur during lunch* 2:00-3:00 PM CST: RO 32 3:00-4:00 PM CST: RO 16 4:00-5:00 PM CST: RO 8 - 5:00-6:00 PM CST: Consolation Bracket: 4 losers from RO 8 play to determine rank 5:00-6:30 PM CST: RO 4 - 6:30-7:30 PM CST: Consolation Bracket: 2 RO 8 Consolation losers play to determined 7th and 8th - 6:30-7:30 PM CST: Consolation Bracket: 2 RO 8 Consolation winners play to determine 5th and 6th - 6:30-7:30 PM CST: Consolation Bracket: 2 winners from RO 4 play to determine 3rd and 4th place 6:30-8:00 PM CST: Grand Finals 8:00-8:10 PM CST: Closing Ceremonies
To participate in the tournament, you must register on the tournament page on the Texas e-Sports Association website. All payments are done through a secure Paypal account registered to the student organization.
Player: $17 USD ($15 for TeSPA members) Spectators: $5 ($2 for TeSPA members) *Add an additional $5 if you wish to purchase catered lunch from us
Please note: TeSPA members are the University of Texas at Austin students that have paid yearly TeSPA membership dues. For more information on this, please contact one of the Co-Presidents as detailed in the Contact section.
MAP SELECTION In each round, the first map will be selected by elimination. Afterwards, the map will be decided on a loser-pick basis. The same map cannot be played twice in a series. All matches shall be a best-of-3.
MAP POOL MLG Metalopolis MLG Shakuras Plateau MLG Xel'Naga Caverns Shattered Temple Typhon Peaks Backwater Gulch Crevasse Tal'Darim Altar Terminus RE
*Note: Maps have changed since originally posted based on player input.
DROPPED PLAYERS AND RESTARTS A game may be restarted by either player with proper cause if the game is within its first 3 minutes and neither player has made contact yet. In the case of a dropped game, if the players cannot come to a consensus, an official tournament referee will review the game and decide whether it should be replayed.
What to Bring: All players must bring their own: - Keyboard - Mouse - Headphones - Ethernet Cable (2-3 ft)
This is a “bring your own computer event”, BYOC. It is strongly recommended that you bring your own computer. In the case you cannot we will attempt to provide one for you, however cannot provide more than 2-3. Rest assured the tournament location will be secure and tournament staff will monitor all exits, while having a system in place to keep track of entering and exiting technology. With that said, TeSPA is not liable for any damages or losses at the event. If you damage another individual’s property (intentionally or accidently) you will be held responsible.
Housing: It is highly recommended to make plans to stay in Austin the night before the tournament. Feel free to reply to this thread to find other participants that may be making the trip to Austin. No housing will be provided on campus.
Parking: We are currently working with the campus parking and transportation to secure special parking passes for the tournament. We will also provide a map of encouraged parking locations around campus before the tournament. We will post more information as it becomes available.
Prize Pool: The prize pool for the event is estimated based on expected participants. Although TeSPA aims to achieve this prize pool, it is ultimately subject to change if necessary.
Frequently Asked Questions: We encourage questions throughout the thread, which we will attempt to answer in a timely manner.
The room is still being finalized. At the very least we will have the event in the same room as last time which comfortably held 64+ spectators. This is reserved as our backup. We are working to secure a new venue in the brand new student activity center. Don't worry that we are working to secure the very best venue and experience possible.
to ensure good/interesting/balanced games i suggest: MLG Xel naga Cavs MLG Metalopolis (no close by ground spawns) MLG Shat Temple (no close by ground spawns) MLG shakuras plat (only cross spawns) MLG/ICCup Testbug GSL Crossfire GSL taldarim Altar GSL terminus re Typhoon Peaks (prlly the best map from the new map pool)
that totals 9 maps, therefore, each party can veto 1 map if the finals is a bo7... if its a bo5 then both individuals can veto 2 maps.
Thanks for the input about the map pool. We are definitely open to suggestions and will be looking into possible updates to the map pool in the coming days. We'll be sure to update here as soon as anything changes.
As for seeding, you are correct ExO - apologies for not mentioning that in the main post. As we promised last time, the top eight players from the last tournament will be seeded. I'll be updating the original post later in the evening to reflect exactly how this works.
On March 14 2011 09:21 majestouch wrote: to ensure good/interesting/balanced games i suggest: MLG Xel naga Cavs MLG Metalopolis (no close by ground spawns) MLG Shat Temple (no close by ground spawns) MLG shakuras plat (only cross spawns) MLG/ICCup Testbug GSL Crossfire GSL taldarim Altar GSL terminus re Typhoon Peaks (prlly the best map from the new map pool)
that totals 9 maps, therefore, each party can veto 1 map if the finals is a bo7... if its a bo5 then both individuals can veto 2 maps.
I agree the map pool could be better, at least get rid of backwater gulch, slag pits and delta quadrant so we can have a balanced map pool. MLG map pool is quite good I'm quite a fan.
On March 14 2011 09:21 majestouch wrote: to ensure good/interesting/balanced games i suggest: MLG Xel naga Cavs MLG Metalopolis (no close by ground spawns) MLG Shat Temple (no close by ground spawns) MLG shakuras plat (only cross spawns) MLG/ICCup Testbug GSL Crossfire GSL taldarim Altar GSL terminus re Typhoon Peaks (prlly the best map from the new map pool)
that totals 9 maps, therefore, each party can veto 1 map if the finals is a bo7... if its a bo5 then both individuals can veto 2 maps.
I agree the map pool could be better, at least get rid of backwater gulch, slag pits and delta quadrant so we can have a balanced map pool. MLG map pool is quite good I'm quite a fan.
Very good points guys and thanks for the suggestions. We haven't discussed the map pool in detail internally, but we will get right on that as soon as possible.
As a fellow gamer, I will ensure that the map pool is as balanced as possible considering we have many, many choices to choose from this semester.
I look forward to seeing you guys in the brackets!
Edit: Acutally I have a question for you guys. Would you guys really prefer MLG maps over the Blizz maps? People may have certain strategies that they have prepared based on the Blizz map, but when they get into the tournament, they will realize that certain strategy doesn't work because the map has been changed.
I, myself, have not looked at the MLG maps, so would this be a problem?
On March 14 2011 09:21 majestouch wrote: to ensure good/interesting/balanced games i suggest: MLG Xel naga Cavs MLG Metalopolis (no close by ground spawns) MLG Shat Temple (no close by ground spawns) MLG shakuras plat (only cross spawns) MLG/ICCup Testbug GSL Crossfire GSL taldarim Altar GSL terminus re Typhoon Peaks (prlly the best map from the new map pool)
that totals 9 maps, therefore, each party can veto 1 map if the finals is a bo7... if its a bo5 then both individuals can veto 2 maps.
I agree the map pool could be better, at least get rid of backwater gulch, slag pits and delta quadrant so we can have a balanced map pool. MLG map pool is quite good I'm quite a fan.
Very good points guys and thanks for the suggestions. We haven't discussed the map pool in detail internally, but we will get right on that as soon as possible.
As a fellow gamer, I will ensure that the map pool is as balanced as possible considering we have many, many choices to choose from this semester.
I look forward to seeing you guys in the brackets!
Edit: Acutally I have a question for you guys. Would you guys really prefer MLG maps over the Blizz maps? People may have certain strategies that they have prepared based on the Blizz map, but when they get into the tournament, they will realize that certain strategy doesn't work because the map has been changed.
I, myself, have not looked at the MLG maps, so would this be a problem?
The MLG maps are less cheesy. They get rid of close position spawns and also have the ramps unblockable with pylons or bunkers. So they are the same maps except less all innish and harder to cheese so I definitely would prefer them. Never played testbug although it is used in ESL or so I hear.
On March 14 2011 09:21 majestouch wrote: to ensure good/interesting/balanced games i suggest: MLG Xel naga Cavs MLG Metalopolis (no close by ground spawns) MLG Shat Temple (no close by ground spawns) MLG shakuras plat (only cross spawns) MLG/ICCup Testbug GSL Crossfire GSL taldarim Altar GSL terminus re Typhoon Peaks (prlly the best map from the new map pool)
that totals 9 maps, therefore, each party can veto 1 map if the finals is a bo7... if its a bo5 then both individuals can veto 2 maps.
Thumbs up to this pool suggestion.
I may even sign up if the maps are made to something non-terribad.
On March 14 2011 09:21 majestouch wrote: to ensure good/interesting/balanced games i suggest: MLG Xel naga Cavs MLG Metalopolis (no close by ground spawns) MLG Shat Temple (no close by ground spawns) MLG shakuras plat (only cross spawns) MLG/ICCup Testbug GSL Crossfire GSL taldarim Altar GSL terminus re Typhoon Peaks (prlly the best map from the new map pool)
that totals 9 maps, therefore, each party can veto 1 map if the finals is a bo7... if its a bo5 then both individuals can veto 2 maps.
Thumbs up to this pool suggestion.
I may even sign up if the maps are made to something non-terribad.
Well, keep watching this thread. I'm hoping to get the pool updated by at least the end of the week.
I'm going to speak to some people tonight or tomorrow. I don't really see any issue with changing any ladder maps to their MLG equivalents. However, I am a little skeptical of adding non-ladder maps to the pool because some people do not have practice partners to prepare with.
I'm also not really opposed to removing shit maps from the pool.
On March 17 2011 05:32 cannedrice wrote: do you guys have any methods for setting up like a dual monitor to a 42 inch TV or something so everyone can watch without disturbing the players?
They had two projectors last tourny so everyone could watch and there were several live casters that made the tournament extremely spectator friendly and I imagine they'll do the same or do something even better :D
On March 16 2011 10:40 Jacobs Ladder wrote: I'm going to speak to some people tonight or tomorrow. I don't really see any issue with changing any ladder maps to their MLG equivalents. However, I am a little skeptical of adding non-ladder maps to the pool because some people do not have practice partners to prepare with.
I'm also not really opposed to removing shit maps from the pool.
most players that will go will most likely have practice partners or friends to check out the maps. the maps don't really have anything to abuse on them, they are just good standard maps. for example, testbug, the only thing to know about it is: it is huge there are 3 spawn locs there a shit load of expos the golds have rocks on them there are 4 xel naga towers (1 in middle 1 outside of each base) the ones outsode of each base have destruct rocks and can only be atked by a certain number of units @ one time (like 8) the map is insanely baller.
as for crossfire, if i'm not mistaken it used to be an old ladder map in the beta.
Just signed up, tho when I was paying on paypal I accidentally missed filling in the "Full name and char code" because I got antsy and sent it b4 reading over everything. I have registered for a TeSPA tournament previously though however, and if there are any questions about which payment is mine please contact me via PM on TL or in game or phone number or however.
Don't mean to be a pest, but still waiting to hear how the top 8 from last tourney seeding is going to be handled
On March 20 2011 17:06 ExO_ wrote: Just signed up, tho when I was paying on paypal I accidentally missed filling in the "Full name and char code" because I got antsy and sent it b4 reading over everything. I have registered for a TeSPA tournament previously though however, and if there are any questions about which payment is mine please contact me via PM on TL or in game or phone number or however.
Thanks for letting us know, that shouldn't be a problem.
Don't mean to be a pest, but still waiting to hear how the top 8 from last tourney seeding is going to be handled
The top 8 players from the last tournament will be automatically seeded (1-8) into the on-site RO64 bracket if they register for this tournament.
Map Pool The original post has been updated to reflect the changes in map pool. Thanks everyone for the input. We have given the map pool a lot of discussion and feel like we have reached a very good balance of maps.
Top 8 Seeding Also, I've updated the original post to explain how seeding will work for the players who finished in the top 8 at our first tournament last November. Those players who did finish within the top 8 will not need to participate in the online qualifiers and will be automatically seeded into the RO 64 in Austin.
Thanks to everyone who has signed up already! Registrations are coming in steadily. Be sure to register if you are planning on attending.
On another note, we have secured a room solely for casting and spectator events. Things are shaping up quite nicely on all ends!
As always, if anyone has questions, feel free to post here or e-mail any of the our coordinators.
On March 22 2011 15:06 `Zapdos wrote: It's funny how you guys updated the map pool, and then blizzard changes the ladder maps, will this affect the map pool or is your decision final?
Yep, I've already taken note of that. I'm loving the changes. If MLG doesn't update Shakuras by the time our tournament starts, then we will use Blizzard's changes, but I'm sure MLG will update it by the time MLG Dallas begins.
So yes, the maps will change along with Blizzard's changes.
On March 23 2011 06:31 Stoids wrote: You didn't mention hating Jesus and making this on Easter weekend in that video.
Apologies about the proximity to Easter. We would have chosen a different date if we could, but we had to work around room availability on campus. Hope to see you next semester if you chose not to come this time!
Things are going very well as we finalize our tournament preparations. We have an amazing facility reserved on campus and registration is going strong. If you haven't yet, make sure you sign up now while early bird pricing is still active!
On March 26 2011 01:46 ReAson75 wrote: Things are going very well as we finalize our tournament preparations. We have an amazing facility reserved on campus and registration is going strong. If you haven't yet, make sure you sign up now while early bird pricing is still active!
On March 26 2011 01:46 ReAson75 wrote: Things are going very well as we finalize our tournament preparations. We have an amazing facility reserved on campus and registration is going strong. If you haven't yet, make sure you sign up now while early bird pricing is still active!
Does the place have parking? :D
There are not any parking spots directly at this particular venue, but we will have a computer drop off area and parking secured a few buildings over. It's looking like the parking this time will be much easier than it was last year. We'll e-mail out more specific information about player and spectator parking closer the actually date of the tournament.
On Wednesday, March 30th, early registration will end for the tournament. Registration prices will increase slightly and will remain at the new level until the end of registration on April 9th.. Sign up now to get the lower prices and tell your friends so they can get the same deals.
On March 28 2011 11:37 SniXSniPe wrote: I already registered but did not pay. How do I pay :o?
If you go to the same place that you registered at, there is a link to the paypal that we are using to collect the money. Once you pay, you will receive a confirmation within 24 hours from us that you have paid.
On March 28 2011 04:13 Physix wrote: Any insight on the building yet?
We are 99% certain that the tournament will take place in the ballroom of the brand new Student Activities Center [SAC]. We're still working out the final details about the room, but we are expecting to divide the ballroom in half with one side for players to use to comete and the other side with live casting, console-games, and contests.
Just as a reminder, tomorrow (Wednesday 3/30/11) is the last day to take advantage of our special early bird pricing! After that, registration fees will increase slightly. Be sure to register soon!
On March 30 2011 04:01 sad.wish wrote: What if we really don't have a comp to bring??
Anyone from San Antonio driving up?, let's carpool.
On March 13 2011 16:18 ReAson75 wrote: This is a “bring your own computer event”, BYOC. It is strongly recommended that you bring your own computer. In the case you cannot we will attempt to provide one for you, however cannot provide more than 2-3. Rest assured the tournament location will be secure and tournament staff will monitor all exits, while having a system in place to keep track of entering and exiting technology. With that said, TeSPA is not liable for any damages or losses at the event. If you damage another individual’s property (intentionally or accidently) you will be held responsible.
Please read the OP next time...
Last time, we had players let others borrow their computers in between games. Most likely we will be doing this again in case you can't bring your own.
Last time, we had players let others borrow their computers in between games. Most likely we will be doing this again in case you can't bring your own.
is all i wanted to know, obvisouly i read the original post, but 2-3 comps? , needed something clearer, Thank you.
On March 30 2011 05:45 vectorix108 wrote: Wish I was good enough to play in it Gl to everyone though!
Even if you're not playing, come on out to spectate if you're in town! The spectator area is going to be awesome this year. We'll have live casting all day by very good casters. We'll also have SCII-related, trivia, and interactive/physical contests for spectators. In addition, we'll have a console-gaming station and raffles for spectators. We're also working on setting up interviews with a few "pro-players" for mid-day entertainment!
Last time, we had players let others borrow their computers in between games. Most likely we will be doing this again in case you can't bring your own.
is all i wanted to know, obvisouly i read the original post, but 2-3 comps? , needed something clearer, Thank you.
Anyone from San Antonio wanna carpool?? 420?
Yep, sorry if my previous post sounded mean. I just wanted to make this a little clearer that way people don't get discouraged from not being able to play because they can't bring their computer. :D
On March 30 2011 05:45 vectorix108 wrote: Wish I was good enough to play in it Gl to everyone though!
Even if you're not playing, come on out to spectate if you're in town! The spectator area is going to be awesome this year. We'll have live casting all day by very good casters. We'll also have SCII-related, trivia, and interactive/physical contests for spectators. In addition, we'll have a console-gaming station and raffles for spectators. We're also working on setting up interviews with a few "pro-players" for mid-day entertainment!
sounds cool! I'll definitely be there! Gotta rep my college haha
I live in Austin, would love to participate, but at this point i'm not sure if i can commit both weekends yet. Also, is there a player list of everyone who is participating?
On March 30 2011 12:52 jslocum wrote: I live in Austin, would love to participate, but at this point i'm not sure if i can commit both weekends yet. Also, is there a player list of everyone who is participating?
We are working out a way to reschedule preliminary qualifying matches on a case-by-case basis if required. Don't let this stop you from registering. The player list will be available after registration is closed.
On March 30 2011 12:52 jslocum wrote: I live in Austin, would love to participate, but at this point i'm not sure if i can commit both weekends yet. Also, is there a player list of everyone who is participating?
We are working out a way to reschedule preliminary qualifying matches on a case-by-case basis if required. Don't let this stop you from registering. The player list will be available after registration is closed.
That sounds good, because I'm going to be busy on the 16th as well.
We have had an error with Google and our Registration/Documentation of people that have and are being registered. For the time being, if you would like to sign up, please send an email to any of the officers listed on the main post. We will try to get this fixed as soon as possible. Thanks for your cooperation. If you have any questions please feel free to contact me through here or by email at brett.hallum@gmail.com. Thanks
On April 01 2011 05:38 shutdown_exploded wrote: what are the rules about race-picking?
Since we never asked for your race in the registration form, you can go ahead and pick a race whenever and however you want. -If say you are playing a Bo3 and you end up changing race the second game, tell your opponent out of common courtesy. I don't think this will be a big issue though. -If a D/C occurs and both of you are forced to re-game, you must pick the same race unless your opponent says it's okay to change race. This goes for random players as well.
On April 01 2011 05:38 shutdown_exploded wrote: what are the rules about race-picking?
Since we never asked for your race in the registration form, you can go ahead and pick a race whenever and however you want. -If say you are playing a Bo3 and you end up changing race the second game, tell your opponent out of common courtesy. I don't think this will be a big issue though. -If a D/C occurs and both of you are forced to re-game, you must pick the same race unless your opponent says it's okay to change race.
wonderful. hopefully 2 racepickers don't cause a stalemate.
How many spots are still open? Are you one of the people on the first floor of RLM selling donuts?
On April 01 2011 05:38 shutdown_exploded wrote: what are the rules about race-picking?
Since we never asked for your race in the registration form, you can go ahead and pick a race whenever and however you want. -If say you are playing a Bo3 and you end up changing race the second game, tell your opponent out of common courtesy. I don't think this will be a big issue though. -If a D/C occurs and both of you are forced to re-game, you must pick the same race unless your opponent says it's okay to change race.
wonderful. hopefully 2 racepickers don't cause a stalemate.
How many spots are still open? Are you one of the people on the first floor of RLM selling donuts?
Haha, I'm sure most people won't actually racepick, but that would be an interesting sight to see.
There are plenty of spots open but remember the deadline is april 9th.
And, no I wasn't one of the people selling donuts. It's too early and I was busy.
Are you one of the people on the first floor of RLM selling donuts?
We had a bunch of members down there, including myself. Most of the people you saw are heavily involved in tournament planning and other aspects of TeSPA.
I'm super excited about this tournament! so If I understand the rules about racepicking I can pick my race based on map so long as I let my opponent know? As a random player that's awesome, since I know there are a few maps I can win as one race and will always lose as another lol.
On April 05 2011 02:21 SilverJohnny wrote: I'm super excited about this tournament! so If I understand the rules about racepicking I can pick my race based on map so long as I let my opponent know? As a random player that's awesome, since I know there are a few maps I can win as one race and will always lose as another lol.
Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Since all maps are considered balanced or close to being balanced, we will allow race change. If you feel race changing will give you a slight advantage, go ahead.
Last week for sign-ups. Space is filling up fast so get in while you still can. Everything is coming along great and it is expected to be an excellent tournament for both players and spectators.
There are also currently a few people who have signed up but not yet paid. Remember, your spot in the bracket is not secured until we receive your entry fees. If you have questions or concerns about payment, contact TeSPA's treasurer Brett Hallum at brett.hallum@mail.utexas.edu.
On April 06 2011 10:50 Hawk2 wrote: Just making sure, but for payment there was only a button to donate, and so i just donated the amount of money I owed, did i do this correctly?
If you are vilehawk, yeah, we received your payment. You should get a confirmation e-mail shortly, sorry for the delay.
I recently moved to Austin in August down from Michigan, I'm not a student at UT, but I live close by and think I'll be stopping by to spectate, what is the setup like for spectators?
On April 07 2011 17:58 Sully907 wrote: I recently moved to Austin in August down from Michigan, I'm not a student at UT, but I live close by and think I'll be stopping by to spectate, what is the setup like for spectators?
We'll have a room devoted to spectating adjacent to the player room. The setup consists of rows of chairs in front of a huge projector screen. Between the screen and the spectators in a stage where casters will we setup. The number of spectator seats will vary based on the amount of estimated spectators plus the full roster of players.
The last day to register is April 9th, this Saturday. If you've been thinking about registering but have not yet done so, be sure to do so asap to guarantee you can participate!
On April 07 2011 17:58 Sully907 wrote: I recently moved to Austin in August down from Michigan, I'm not a student at UT, but I live close by and think I'll be stopping by to spectate, what is the setup like for spectators?
We'll have a room devoted to spectating adjacent to the player room. The setup consists of rows of chairs in front of a huge projector screen. Between the screen and the spectators in a stage where casters will we setup. The number of spectator seats will vary based on the amount of estimated spectators plus the full roster of players.
Here is our current plan:
I'll definitely show up to watch. It looks like a better setup for spectators than what MLG Dallas had.
That layout looks very good. Casters and spectators being in the other room and what not. One minor change. If you could put the tables back to back that way screen watching wouldn't be as big a problem, being that the closest monitor you could see would be 1 row further away. Also there would be less people tripping over cords and stuff hanging off the back of computers.
Last day to register for the tournament is TODAY!!!! Please register by the end of the day today to get guaranteed entrance into the tournament. If you have any questions, contact the tournament coordinators on the OP.
Wish I could go again this year but unfortunately I can't get off work for it.
Hopefully a lot of people bring computers and can share them if needed this year. I know mine was useful last time as I think I had about 5 other people use it once...
Sorry to the guy coming up from San Antonio, if I was going I could have given you a ride. Good Luck finding another ride though.
Glad to hear ya'll got a better room for the tournament. Forcing randoms to pick a race instead of going random again if there is a drop or something seems a bit unfair as it loses whatever slight/short random edge they might have. I wish I had thought about changing races last time, I went random 3 times and got Zerg 3 times and lost 2-1 :-/. I should have picked another race for that game 3 map I picked under the assumption Blizzard wouldn't give me random zerg 3 games in a row :-(.
On April 10 2011 08:49 -BW-Map_God wrote: Forcing randoms to pick a race instead of going random again if there is a drop or something seems a bit unfair as it loses whatever slight/short random edge they might have.
It's unfair? There is nothing stopping him from disconnecting on purpose and try to get the race he is good at in the remake. The random player gets a second chance to get the race he wants.
Player sign-ups are officially closed. We had a total of 107 players sign-up from an incredible 13 different universities in Texas! Spectator sign-ups will remain open through the day of the tournament.
An e-mail recently went out to all players with the following updates: 1.)The last day to pay your registration fee is Thursday April 14th. If you have already paid, you should have received a confirmation e-mail from us. If you have paid and haven't received a confirmation, please reply to this e-mail and let us know so we can confirm. If you haven't paid by the deadline, you will not be placed into the preliminary brackets.
2.)If you have a conflict with playing the online qualifiers on April 16th, please e-mail Texas.Esports.Association@gmail.com with your reason and availability by Sunday April 10th. In your subject line, please include the words "[LAN Timing Conflict] Real_Name -- Handle.###". Online preliminary brackets will be announced next week. You will be e-mailed with more information after the player list is finalized. [This deadline has passed. If you still require special arrangements, you will need to e-mail a tournament coordinator ASAP with a legitimate reason.]
Expect to hear more from us soon! We are very excited about the way things are shaping up and are looking forward to a fantastic tournament. If you have an questions, please feel free to ask.
Will there be a player list released? I want to take a look at some of the top names signed up so I can start practicing certain matchups to give you guys the highest quality of games.
On April 12 2011 11:27 Hawk2 wrote: Will there be a player list released? I want to take a look at some of the top names signed up so I can start practicing certain matchups to give you guys the highest quality of games.
A player list will be released later this week in time for the online qualifiers.
uNtrue_ United States. April 10 2011 12:38. Posts 108 PM Profile Report Quote #
On April 10 2011 08:49 -BW-Map_God wrote: Forcing randoms to pick a race instead of going random again if there is a drop or something seems a bit unfair as it loses whatever slight/short random edge they might have.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On April 14 2011 08:49 uNtrue_ wrote:
It's unfair? There is nothing stopping him from disconnecting on purpose and try to get the race he is good at in the remake. The random player gets a second chance to get the race he wants. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That would be pretty bad mannered and sort of cheating, I don't know of anyone that plays random who would do something BM like that. That is basically what the non-random player would be doing if there was a drop after the random was scouted and the random had to remake as that race in the next game. I wouldn't think anyone would do that but then your suggesting it as a strategy so maybe some people would.
On April 14 2011 05:35 -BW-Map_God wrote: uNtrue_ United States. April 10 2011 12:38. Posts 108 PM Profile Report Quote #
On April 10 2011 08:49 -BW-Map_God wrote: Forcing randoms to pick a race instead of going random again if there is a drop or something seems a bit unfair as it loses whatever slight/short random edge they might have.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On April 14 2011 08:49 uNtrue_ wrote:
It's unfair? There is nothing stopping him from disconnecting on purpose and try to get the race he is good at in the remake. The random player gets a second chance to get the race he wants. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That would be pretty bad mannered and sort of cheating, I don't know of anyone that plays random who would do something BM like that. That is basically what the non-random player would be doing if there was a drop after the random was scouted and the random had to remake as that race in the next game. I wouldn't think anyone would do that but then your suggesting it as a strategy so maybe some people would.
Either way I'd stick with saying its unfair.
Haha. All my life I've had this mindset that people are naturally evil, and my real life and virtual life experiences have only strengthened that thought.
Anyway, it could be someone's strategy or a way to just slip by the rules, but it is always best to get these rules set in stone so no one abuses it. Also, thanks to the Random Race tournament I think by gosucrew, since that's actually where I stole the rule from when one of my opponents DC'd in the beginning of the game.
- Those player's names who are in bold have not yet paid. We MUST receive payment by today at the very LATEST or you will not be included in the online bracket. If you have an issue with payment, contact an admin immediately.
- Those player's names who are underlined have not provided their character code. Please send this to an admin immediately.
We'll be sending out an e-mail with instructions and the full online-qualifier bracket this evening or early tomorrow.
Also, for those who wish to attend, TeSPA will be hosting a LAN party on the UT campus for the online qualifiers. We'll be doing our officiating together there and most likely watching NASL together afterward. Anyone is welcome to come play with us. We'll also have TVs and console stations set up and a number of unlocked ethernet ports for non-UT students. If you are planning on bringing a desktop (or laptop for non-UT students), you need to bring a short ethernet cable. You can check out the newly created Facebook event for the LAN Party here.
Hey, just a quick update on the brackets. We had a little bit of a delay allowing people to submit their payments in the last minute. When I wake up, I'll finalize it and send you guys an email along with the brackets.
On April 18 2011 08:52 SniXSniPe wrote: When do we see brackets for our first opponent?
The brackets are being put together now. Hopefully, we'll have them released sometime within the next couple of days. We will post them here as soon as we have it ready. The full player list of those who advanced from yesterday's qualifiers is below.
Austin Community College: 1 High School Student: 7 Rice University: 3 Texas A&M: 5 University of Houston: 5 University of North Texas: 1 UT Austin: 29 UT Arlington: 1 UT Dallas: 1 UT San Antonio: 2 Unaffiliated: 9
In the mean time, if you're feeling especially festive, download one of our official tournament wallpapers [url blocked].
On April 19 2011 07:51 Ohmboy wrote: I don't see this anywhere: do we have to bring our own monitors as well? Or do we just have to bring the desktop, input devices and cords?
If you don't being your own monitor you will gave to count on borrowing from somebody. We highly recommend you bring your own.
On March 22 2011 15:06 `Zapdos wrote: It's funny how you guys updated the map pool, and then blizzard changes the ladder maps, will this affect the map pool or is your decision final?
I lied. I think the MLG changes don't affect the backdoor rocks that much. I don't think either map really has an outstanding balance issue. I'm going to go ahead and leave it as the MLG Shakuras.
Brackets and an email will be coming soon in the next few days (can't determine when because I have to make this email as comprehensive as possible). Look forward to it and I hope to see you all on Saturday.
question, where exactly do I go to spectate the tournament on saturday. I know it's at the university, but for someone that doesn't go there, where exactly should I drive to?
On April 20 2011 09:24 Sully907 wrote: question, where exactly do I go to spectate the tournament on saturday. I know it's at the university, but for someone that doesn't go there, where exactly should I drive to?
We will be sending out a spectator information e-mail tonight that will be cross posted here. Parking and venue information (specific rooms at the university of Texas at Austin) will be included. Thanks for your patience.
On April 21 2011 04:36 Sixto wrote: Hey, i was wondering, are the quarterfinals, semifinals, and final going to be a bo3 as well? seems kinda short for a single elimination tournament
The current plan is for the grand finals to be a BO5. We did this primarily because the all-day back-to-back play schedule was very tiring on the players last year. We'll discuss exctending the BO5 to the RO4 as well though tonight and post if the plans change.
On April 21 2011 04:45 tkRage wrote: Who is the other student from University of North Texas??
The UNT student is tkmekhami.710 (Lawrence V).
Spectator Updates: Location/Parking: Spectating is going to happen in RLM 4.102 on the University of Texas campus. I'll post exact instructions on how to get there and where to park later this evening. Prizes/Raffles: I'm pleased to announce that we will have 35 games, 30+ T-shirts, a graphics card, a motherboard, gaming gear, and lots more prizes thanks to NVIDIA, TTesports, and Microsoft! Spectating is going to be a ton of fun - I hope everyone can make it out!
On April 21 2011 04:36 Sixto wrote: Hey, i was wondering, are the quarterfinals, semifinals, and final going to be a bo3 as well? seems kinda short for a single elimination tournament
The current plan is for the grand finals to be a BO5. We did this primarily because the all-day back-to-back play schedule was very tiring on the players last year. We'll discuss exctending the BO5 to the RO4 as well though tonight and post if the plans change.
On April 21 2011 04:45 tkRage wrote: Who is the other student from University of North Texas??
The UNT student is tkmekhami.710 (Lawrence V).
Spectator Updates: Location/Parking: Spectating is going to happen in RLM 4.102 on the University of Texas campus. I'll post exact instructions on how to get there and where to park later this evening. Prizes/Raffles: I'm pleased to announce that we will have 35 games, 30+ T-shirts, a graphics card, a motherboard, gaming gear, and lots more prizes thanks to NVIDIA, TTesports, and Microsoft! Spectating is going to be a ton of fun - I hope everyone can make it out!
I am Lawrence Vanderpool, who is the other one? doesn't it say there were two?
Was this tournament really seeded by last tournament/ladder rankings? ZpuX is the highest place finisher from last tournament and has the hardest bracket (unfortunately I'm in it).
Also, I find it somewhat weird how I'm paired up against the same guy I played during the qualifiers.
Okay, so we had promised last tournament the Top 8 would be seeded first, after that comes the ladder. I don't know how Binski or vilehawk got almost placed next to each other, but imo, the bracket is heavily stacked with good players. Regarding Stoid's comment, Sojourner is actually 16th seed on our bracket. Some of you are starting to piss me off because of your whining.
On April 21 2011 09:14 SniXSniPe wrote: lol.
Was this tournament really seeded by last tournament/ladder rankings? ZpuX is the highest place finisher from last tournament and has the hardest bracket (unfortunately I'm in it).
Also, I find it somewhat weird how I'm paired up against the same guy I played during the qualifiers.
Did you think we manually placed people in different places? We just decided "hey, we don't like zpux. let's put him in a bracket with 3 other top players and make the game more exciting to see who fights for the top 8". Do you doubt our professionalism?
Think about these questions before you say another word. If you want to quit the tournament, then go ahead, no one is stopping you.
And no, it's not weird you are paired up against the same guy. I don't even know who the guy is you played in the qualifiers and I honestly don't care.
To the other questioning single elim and best of X. Yes, it is a single elimination because we don't have time for double elimination. We barely made time last semester, and no one said anything about wanting a double elimination. Bo3 up until quarterfinals -> semi -> finals which will be Bo5.
If you want to continue whining or something, by all means pm me or pm me on Bnet: jaMble.382. I dare you. I'll be happy to listen to your complaints....
On April 21 2011 12:53 uNtrue_ wrote: Okay, so we had promised last tournament the Top 8 would be seeded first, after that comes the ladder. I don't know how Binski or vilehawk got almost placed next to each other, but imo, the bracket is heavily stacked with good players. Regarding Stoid's comment, Sojourner is actually 16th seed on our bracket. Some of you are starting to piss me off because of your whining. If you have negative comments, be constructive, otherwise shut up.
Was this tournament really seeded by last tournament/ladder rankings? ZpuX is the highest place finisher from last tournament and has the hardest bracket (unfortunately I'm in it).
Also, I find it somewhat weird how I'm paired up against the same guy I played during the qualifiers.
Did you think we manually placed people in different places? We just decided "hey, we don't like zpux. let's put him in a bracket with 3 other top players and make the game more exciting to see who fights for the top 8". Do you doubt our professionalism?
Think about these questions before you say another word. If you want to quit the tournament, then go ahead, no one is stopping you.
And no, it's not weird you are paired up against the same guy. I don't even know who the guy is you played in the qualifiers and I honestly don't care.
I didn't doubt your professionalism because of your bracket. I now doubt your professionalism because you lack the ability to respond in a coherent, calm, professional, and grammatically correct manner.
Learn to respond to some criticism without coming off like an insecure pussy.
On April 21 2011 12:53 uNtrue_ wrote: Okay, so we had promised last tournament the Top 8 would be seeded first, after that comes the ladder. I don't know how Binski or vilehawk got almost placed next to each other, but imo, the bracket is heavily stacked with good players. Regarding Stoid's comment, Sojourner is actually 16th seed on our bracket. Some of you are starting to piss me off because of your whining. If you have negative comments, be constructive, otherwise shut up.
On April 21 2011 09:14 SniXSniPe wrote: lol.
Was this tournament really seeded by last tournament/ladder rankings? ZpuX is the highest place finisher from last tournament and has the hardest bracket (unfortunately I'm in it).
Also, I find it somewhat weird how I'm paired up against the same guy I played during the qualifiers.
Did you think we manually placed people in different places? We just decided "hey, we don't like zpux. let's put him in a bracket with 3 other top players and make the game more exciting to see who fights for the top 8". Do you doubt our professionalism?
Think about these questions before you say another word. If you want to quit the tournament, then go ahead, no one is stopping you.
And no, it's not weird you are paired up against the same guy. I don't even know who the guy is you played in the qualifiers and I honestly don't care.
I didn't doubt your professionalism because of your bracket. I now doubt your professionalism because you lack the ability to respond in a coherent, calm, professional, and grammatically correct manner.
Learn to respond to some criticism without coming off like an insecure pussy.
I don't think you understand that the complaints you guys have is that the brackets are too heavy on a certain side. Everyone was seeded according to Top 8 first into the ladder rankings. What you guys want is for me to literally fix the brackets and cheat. Is this what you want?
As far as I'm concerned I am calm and am not interested in being grammatically correct. I am responding to your criticisms, and your immature language has just shown me just how professional you are, sir. I didn't insult anyone, I was just saying to be constructive when you give negative comments. such as "TT bracket of death" or "TT single elim". These are not constructive.
I am tired, I have so much school work, and I have more things to do in the tournament. The least you can do is ignore my rash comments and try to talk with me, but it looks like you aren't interested in any of that. All players have to do is enter and play games. I have to play games and on top of that work so you guys can have an enjoyable tournament. This is so disappointing that I am not getting the respect I deserve for my work. It's like painting a piece of art and having people like you call it trash. Thanks.
Edit: I'm seriously about to do some things that I regret. Please, do not push me any further....
On April 21 2011 12:53 uNtrue_ wrote: Okay, so we had promised last tournament the Top 8 would be seeded first, after that comes the ladder. I don't know how Binski or vilehawk got almost placed next to each other, but imo, the bracket is heavily stacked with good players. Regarding Stoid's comment, Sojourner is actually 16th seed on our bracket. Some of you are starting to piss me off because of your whining.
Was this tournament really seeded by last tournament/ladder rankings? ZpuX is the highest place finisher from last tournament and has the hardest bracket (unfortunately I'm in it).
Also, I find it somewhat weird how I'm paired up against the same guy I played during the qualifiers.
Did you think we manually placed people in different places? We just decided "hey, we don't like zpux. let's put him in a bracket with 3 other top players and make the game more exciting to see who fights for the top 8". Do you doubt our professionalism?
Think about these questions before you say another word. If you want to quit the tournament, then go ahead, no one is stopping you.
And no, it's not weird you are paired up against the same guy. I don't even know who the guy is you played in the qualifiers and I honestly don't care.
To the other questioning single elim and best of X. Yes, it is a single elimination because we don't have time for double elimination. We barely made time last semester, and no one said anything about wanting a double elimination. Bo3 up until quarterfinals -> semi -> finals which will be Bo5.
If you want to continue whining or something, by all means pm me or pm me on Bnet: jaMble.382. I dare you. I'll be happy to listen to your complaints....
I don't understand where your hostility is coming from. As far as I'm aware, I asked a simple question. I didn't mean it in a negative manner?
I'm sorry if I found it funny one of your schools best players was in a hard bracket (for your tournament).
On April 21 2011 12:53 uNtrue_ wrote: Okay, so we had promised last tournament the Top 8 would be seeded first, after that comes the ladder. I don't know how Binski or vilehawk got almost placed next to each other, but imo, the bracket is heavily stacked with good players. Regarding Stoid's comment, Sojourner is actually 16th seed on our bracket. Some of you are starting to piss me off because of your whining. If you have negative comments, be constructive, otherwise shut up.
On April 21 2011 09:14 SniXSniPe wrote: lol.
Was this tournament really seeded by last tournament/ladder rankings? ZpuX is the highest place finisher from last tournament and has the hardest bracket (unfortunately I'm in it).
Also, I find it somewhat weird how I'm paired up against the same guy I played during the qualifiers.
Did you think we manually placed people in different places? We just decided "hey, we don't like zpux. let's put him in a bracket with 3 other top players and make the game more exciting to see who fights for the top 8". Do you doubt our professionalism?
Think about these questions before you say another word. If you want to quit the tournament, then go ahead, no one is stopping you.
And no, it's not weird you are paired up against the same guy. I don't even know who the guy is you played in the qualifiers and I honestly don't care.
I didn't doubt your professionalism because of your bracket. I now doubt your professionalism because you lack the ability to respond in a coherent, calm, professional, and grammatically correct manner.
Learn to respond to some criticism without coming off like an insecure pussy.
I don't think you understand that the complaints you guys have is that the brackets are too heavy on a certain side. Everyone was seeded according to Top 8 first into the ladder rankings. What you guys want is for me to literally fix the brackets and cheat. Is this what you want?
As far as I'm concerned I am calm and am not interested in being grammatically correct. I am responding to your criticisms, and your immature language has just shown me just how professional you are, sir. I didn't insult anyone, I was just saying to be constructive when you give negative comments. such as "TT bracket of death" or "TT single elim". These are not constructive.
I am tired, I have so much school work, and I have more things to do in the tournament. The least you can do is ignore my rash comments and try to talk with me, but it looks like you aren't interested in any of that. All players have to do is enter and play games. I have to play games and on top of that work so you guys can have an enjoyable tournament. This is so disappointing that I am not getting the respect I deserve for my work. It's like painting a piece of art and having people like you call it trash. Thanks.
I think you're getting overly butthurt about simple passing comments. I don't need to be professional, I'm simply attending the tournament. You have to wear that hat as a tournament organizer. I have expressed my gratitude multiple times to the Rosens. I appreciate any effort to expand the e-sports scene in Texas.
If you want some gratitude, I'll dance on top of my computer at the tournament, with the replay of Benjamin vs Jamble, and make a toast. We can 4 gate all night long.
On April 21 2011 12:53 uNtrue_ wrote: Okay, so we had promised last tournament the Top 8 would be seeded first, after that comes the ladder. I don't know how Binski or vilehawk got almost placed next to each other, but imo, the bracket is heavily stacked with good players. Regarding Stoid's comment, Sojourner is actually 16th seed on our bracket. Some of you are starting to piss me off because of your whining.
On April 21 2011 09:14 SniXSniPe wrote: lol.
Was this tournament really seeded by last tournament/ladder rankings? ZpuX is the highest place finisher from last tournament and has the hardest bracket (unfortunately I'm in it).
Also, I find it somewhat weird how I'm paired up against the same guy I played during the qualifiers.
Did you think we manually placed people in different places? We just decided "hey, we don't like zpux. let's put him in a bracket with 3 other top players and make the game more exciting to see who fights for the top 8". Do you doubt our professionalism?
Think about these questions before you say another word. If you want to quit the tournament, then go ahead, no one is stopping you.
And no, it's not weird you are paired up against the same guy. I don't even know who the guy is you played in the qualifiers and I honestly don't care.
To the other questioning single elim and best of X. Yes, it is a single elimination because we don't have time for double elimination. We barely made time last semester, and no one said anything about wanting a double elimination. Bo3 up until quarterfinals -> semi -> finals which will be Bo5.
If you want to continue whining or something, by all means pm me or pm me on Bnet: jaMble.382. I dare you. I'll be happy to listen to your complaints....
I don't understand where your hostility is coming from. As far as I'm aware, I asked a simple question. I didn't mean it in a negative manner?
I'm sorry if I found it funny one of your schools best players was in a hard bracket (for your tournament).
I am sorry. I am very tired as said in my previous post, but my neck is on the line for doing things that you guys want. I know it is very hard to please everyone but when no one can accept that this is a legit bracket, it only makes me question what I've done.
It is pretty weird that he was in the toughest bracket. It is Challonge's doing, not mine. I had enough work placing everyone in their seeds that I would not have time to really look at the brackets.
On April 21 2011 12:53 uNtrue_ wrote: Okay, so we had promised last tournament the Top 8 would be seeded first, after that comes the ladder. I don't know how Binski or vilehawk got almost placed next to each other, but imo, the bracket is heavily stacked with good players. Regarding Stoid's comment, Sojourner is actually 16th seed on our bracket. Some of you are starting to piss me off because of your whining.
On April 21 2011 09:14 SniXSniPe wrote: lol.
Was this tournament really seeded by last tournament/ladder rankings? ZpuX is the highest place finisher from last tournament and has the hardest bracket (unfortunately I'm in it).
Also, I find it somewhat weird how I'm paired up against the same guy I played during the qualifiers.
Did you think we manually placed people in different places? We just decided "hey, we don't like zpux. let's put him in a bracket with 3 other top players and make the game more exciting to see who fights for the top 8". Do you doubt our professionalism?
Think about these questions before you say another word. If you want to quit the tournament, then go ahead, no one is stopping you.
And no, it's not weird you are paired up against the same guy. I don't even know who the guy is you played in the qualifiers and I honestly don't care.
To the other questioning single elim and best of X. Yes, it is a single elimination because we don't have time for double elimination. We barely made time last semester, and no one said anything about wanting a double elimination. Bo3 up until quarterfinals -> semi -> finals which will be Bo5.
If you want to continue whining or something, by all means pm me or pm me on Bnet: jaMble.382. I dare you. I'll be happy to listen to your complaints....
I don't understand where your hostility is coming from. As far as I'm aware, I asked a simple question. I didn't mean it in a negative manner?
I'm sorry if I found it funny one of your schools best players was in a hard bracket (for your tournament).
Zpux has got this shit.
As far as I can tell the reason Alex (untrue) is so annoyed at the moment is he has put a FUCK TON of work into those brackets. People who have never made brackets don't understand how much time it takes and how tedious it really is. He did a great job and some of the better players ended up near each other by chance. People then complained about that. In the sleep deprived, over worked, mindset of someone who's been busting their ass to make this even happen its pretty frustrating to receive a bunch of unhelpful criticism. (He's also been dealing with the run up to finals, which is making me pretty edgy too).
I hope this clears up why he seems so hostile. This isn't easy to set up and "brackets of death" are pretty unavoidable in FAIR systems. Sure, we could rig the bracket, but that would be total bullshit.
If you want some gratitude, I'll dance on top of my computer at the tournament, with the replay of Benjamin vs Jamble, and make a toast. We can 4 gate all night long.
The brackets are filled with good players. It was almost certain that good players were going to have to eliminate good players early. The issue is really the single elimination part of it. This simply exacerbates the complaints about the top side of the bracket. You also run into the high possibility of cheesing and making some games a coin flip.
I understand that there are strict time constraints. You guys have organized a tournament that I could never dream of putting together. There are just a few concerns from players and spectators alike. This does not mean we are not going to show up, but this a forum where we will inherently express our opinions and concerns.
On April 21 2011 13:42 Stoids wrote: The brackets are filled with good players. It was almost certain that good players were going to have to eliminate good players early. The issue is really the single elimination part of it. This not only exacerbates the complaints about the top side of the bracket. You also run into the high possibility of cheesing and making some games a coin flip.
I understand that there are strict time constraints. You guys have organized a tournament that I could never dream of putting together. There are just a few concerns from players and spectators a like. This does not mean we are not going to show up, but this a forum where we will inherently express our opinions and concerns.
I'll take back my unprofessional comment. Like Jacob & co explained, we're all extremely stressed out from managing the tourney and trying to balance school at the same time. >_<
On April 21 2011 13:42 Stoids wrote: The brackets are filled with good players. It was almost certain that good players were going to have to eliminate good players early. The issue is really the single elimination part of it. This not only exacerbates the complaints about the top side of the bracket. You also run into the high possibility of cheesing and making some games a coin flip.
I understand that there are strict time constraints. You guys have organized a tournament that I could never dream of putting together. There are just a few concerns from players and spectators a like. This does not mean we are not going to show up, but this a forum where we will inherently express our opinions and concerns.
Please understand, we're not try to set the bracket up in any unfair way. Instead, we took extreme care to make the seeding process as transparent as possible. We published that seeding would be given first to the top eight finishers of our last tournament and that all subsequent seeding would be based on ladder points. We even encouraged players to ladder as much as they could before last Sunday evening to improve their seed.
Also, please have a little patience for Alex and the rest of our coordinators. We have a team of 16 officers who have been working tirelessly for the past four months to ensure that every possible logistical detail is taken care of.
We literally had a four and a half hour long meeting today to finalize our last minute considerations. We've gone through every bureaucratic piece of red tape imaginable put in place by University administration to make this event impossible. We've had to deal with the chaotic upheveal of our venue being canceled a week and a half before the event due to unforeseen circumstances and scrambled, much to our academic detriment, to find a new location that would make everyone happy.
We've put a ton of effort into securing sponsors so that we may provide you, the players of Texas, with a very substantial prize pool (the largest monetary purely collegiate SC2 tournament to date, mind you) and an incredible spectator experience. We have not stopped with "let's find a projector to watch games". We have come up with contests, trivia, in-game achievements, real-life achievements, side console tournaments, live player interviews, live casting, a comfortable venue, and much more. Aside from the $1500 prize pool, we've worked tirelessly to solicit prizes from our very generous sponsors, totaling an additional over $1250 in raffle prizes alone.
We aren't done. We will be up all night Thursday and Friday, too. Last tournament half the officers feel asleep during the event because they got literally no sleep the night before. This year, the size and scope of our event has doubled. We don't have a paid staff like MLG or NASL, but are striving to surpass their quality and excellence.
Before you slam Alex or anyone else on my officer team about being unfair or a bit irritable, remember what we have to go through to make this event possible and the amount of blood, sweat, and tears we have put into making it a purely enjoyable experience. Putting on an event of this magnitude is not easy. If you have issues you can raise them to me, but the hostility that has arose this evening is both unnecessary on both fronts and quite frustrating to me.
For those of you who have expressed your appreciation and trust for our planning, we are sincerely grateful. We hope to present you with an incredible event this weekend and surpass your expectations.
On April 21 2011 13:42 Stoids wrote: The brackets are filled with good players. It was almost certain that good players were going to have to eliminate good players early. The issue is really the single elimination part of it. This not only exacerbates the complaints about the top side of the bracket. You also run into the high possibility of cheesing and making some games a coin flip.
I understand that there are strict time constraints. You guys have organized a tournament that I could never dream of putting together. There are just a few concerns from players and spectators a like. This does not mean we are not going to show up, but this a forum where we will inherently express our opinions and concerns.
I agree completely Stoids
There is no doubt this is true. I don't think you guys realize that I am playing in this tournament as well. I get the same feelings you guys have about the tourney.
Coin flip games were things of the past now that we have new maps. I feel that players have evolved by now to have created their own strong openings. I don't see cheesing to be the culprit of a 0-2.
Opinions and concerns are always welcome, but short, negative comments hurt the thread.
On April 21 2011 13:42 Stoids wrote: The brackets are filled with good players. It was almost certain that good players were going to have to eliminate good players early. The issue is really the single elimination part of it. This simply exacerbates the complaints about the top side of the bracket. You also run into the high possibility of cheesing and making some games a coin flip.
I understand that there are strict time constraints. You guys have organized a tournament that I could never dream of putting together. There are just a few concerns from players and spectators alike. This does not mean we are not going to show up, but this a forum where we will inherently express our opinions and concerns.
The bracket definitely is filled with an extremely high caliber of players. While it means that better players may be knocked out earlier, the good news is that it also means the overall the competition will be much higher and better games should result. I do apologize that we aren't able to offer a double elimination tournament. Hopefully, I can shed some insight on the decision-making process.
While we would all love to do a double-elimination style, a few facts have to be faced. Currently, we are very new to the tournament-planning process. Certainly we must move in small steps to ensure that we achieve maximum success without risking a good event and the time and money of over one-hundred paying participants.
Last year, we began with a single elimination tournament. The tournament ended up taking the entire day. To have a double elimination tournament with the infrastructure we have in place now, we would have to extend the length of the tournament which means the day-schedule would get even longer -or- the tournament would have to be spread out over multiple days. Extending the tournament over multiple days would require more time committment from players and overnight hotel room accomodations. Currently, our primary participants are college students, many of whom might not be able to afford this option. So, for our second tournament, we were hesitant of making step.
To ease concerns about the single-elimination style last year, we decided to implement a double-elimination style for the online play, which would transcend these obstacles. Unfortunately, we didn't fully consider that the top players would be pre-seeded and not gain any benefit from this double elimination style. Luckily, we learned our lesson though and will use what we've learned to improve next semester's tournament.
As we increase our infrastructure, we will definitely look into have a double elimination tournament in the future. Unfortunately this semester, the logistical concerns were too large to overcome with the limited funding and financial resources we have.
I'd like to thank everyone for their input though! We are listening and appreciate constructive criticism.
On April 21 2011 04:36 Sixto wrote: Hey, i was wondering, are the quarterfinals, semifinals, and final going to be a bo3 as well? seems kinda short for a single elimination tournament
The current plan is for the grand finals to be a BO5. We did this primarily because the all-day back-to-back play schedule was very tiring on the players last year. We'll discuss exctending the BO5 to the RO4 as well though tonight and post if the plans change.
On April 21 2011 04:45 tkRage wrote: Who is the other student from University of North Texas??
The UNT student is tkmekhami.710 (Lawrence V).
Spectator Updates: Location/Parking: Spectating is going to happen in RLM 4.102 on the University of Texas campus. I'll post exact instructions on how to get there and where to park later this evening. Prizes/Raffles: I'm pleased to announce that we will have 35 games, 30+ T-shirts, a graphics card, a motherboard, gaming gear, and lots more prizes thanks to NVIDIA, TTesports, and Microsoft! Spectating is going to be a ton of fun - I hope everyone can make it out!
I am Lawrence Vanderpool, who is the other one? doesn't it say there were two?
Oops! You are correct - only one player from North Texas is attending. I'll make that fix. :D
Looks like the bracket keeps getting changed up. Care to explain? I am in a different spot then I was when it was first released. I'm not mad or anything, just curious.
EDIT:
And, for the record, I would personally prefer double elim. I'm driving a decent distance to the tournament on easter weekend, and would at least like a second chance after I get knocked out first round. Again not trying to sound angry, just some feedback.
On April 21 2011 14:36 Megaliskuu wrote: I don`t appreciate your trolling "axletoss".
I can assure you I'm not. I was originally playing "Outplayed.922" when the bracket first came out. Now I'm against "Maestro.388" in a completely different part of the bracket.
On April 21 2011 14:36 Megaliskuu wrote: I don`t appreciate your trolling "axletoss".
I can assure you I'm not. I was originally playing "Outplayed.922" when the bracket first came out. Now I'm against "Maestro.388" in a completely different part of the bracket.
On April 21 2011 14:33 Axeltoss wrote: Looks like the bracket keeps getting changed up. Care to explain? I am in a different spot then I was when it was first released. I'm not mad or anything, just curious.
EDIT:
And, for the record, I would personally prefer double elim. I'm driving a decent distance to the tournament on easter weekend, and would at least like a second chance after I get knocked out first round. Again not trying to sound angry, just some feedback.
They were balancing the brackets to have the better players spread out throughout the bracket more, which is why they moved down binski, which unfortunately took your place, which made the top, and bottom bracket leveled, but middle part sort've easier in comparison, then they moved binski to the middle part of the bracket, which made the brackets imo pretty balanced out, but then for some reason untrue's stress flipped with your comment and changed the bracket to how it was initially intended to be.
On April 21 2011 14:36 Megaliskuu wrote: I don`t appreciate your trolling "axletoss".
I can assure you I'm not. I was originally playing "Outplayed.922" when the bracket first came out. Now I'm against "Maestro.388" in a completely different part of the bracket.
no changes made. im done with this.
don't get overstressed for these naive questions, i'm sure i'm not the only one that appreciates the amount of work tespa admins put into organizing this tournament for everyone out there without receiving any benefits other then promoting esports. On a side note, i thought ur changes on the bracket were quite good untrue.
On April 21 2011 14:33 Axeltoss wrote: Looks like the bracket keeps getting changed up. Care to explain? I am in a different spot then I was when it was first released. I'm not mad or anything, just curious.
EDIT:
And, for the record, I would personally prefer double elim. I'm driving a decent distance to the tournament on easter weekend, and would at least like a second chance after I get knocked out first round. Again not trying to sound angry, just some feedback.
They were balancing the brackets to have the better players spread out throughout the bracket more, which is why they moved down binski, which unfortunately took your place, which made the top, and bottom bracket leveled, but middle part sort've easier in comparison, then they moved binski to the middle part of the bracket, which made the brackets imo pretty balanced out, but then for some reason untrue's stress flipped with your comment and changed the bracket to how it was initially intended to be.
To this post and your next one, thanks. B-t-w, my stress wasn't the cause of the bracket revert. The officers thought it was the best thing to do to seed the brackets back to the way it was, but now we are talking it over. Update soon to come.
We would love to do double Elim, however, time makes it impossible. Last tourny was 64 players single Elim and it ran from ~9am-8pm. Because of the sheer number of games required to do double elim we have no choice but to do single elim.
Just a couple of things I want to get out there; 1st in regards to a double elim, just as a note of reference, MLG had a double elim and was 1 round more then tespa(ro128) and is a 3 day event. Gridimetrics another double elim tourney hosted in Austin back in Jan was a ro32 event and started from 5pm, and the finals didn't start until 2-3am. Hosting a double elim tournament is such a huge time commitment that I don't see most people going willing to commit to one day. Also about the complaints about the brackets, it might seem like its stacked but the organizers did announce how seeding was being done and if they followed through with it then we should be satisfied with it. The way seeding works is that it favors the people who are awarded with the points, and any outcome of bracket stacking is coincidental and could be even worse if it was just a randomized bracket like most tournaments with no background. It's just as possible for a game that would be finals worthy end up being played in the 1st round, and TESPA made attempts to give us the best chances to allow the better players to play later in the tournament by taking ladder points into consideration and seeding that along with the previous event placing. I can't see how else they could balance out the bracket without being biased if they don't have any scientific way to measure a players skill.
On April 21 2011 14:33 Axeltoss wrote: Looks like the bracket keeps getting changed up. Care to explain? I am in a different spot then I was when it was first released. I'm not mad or anything, just curious.
EDIT:
And, for the record, I would personally prefer double elim. I'm driving a decent distance to the tournament on easter weekend, and would at least like a second chance after I get knocked out first round. Again not trying to sound angry, just some feedback.
They were balancing the brackets to have the better players spread out throughout the bracket more, which is why they moved down binski, which unfortunately took your place, which made the top, and bottom bracket leveled, but middle part sort've easier in comparison, then they moved binski to the middle part of the bracket, which made the brackets imo pretty balanced out, but then for some reason untrue's stress flipped with your comment and changed the bracket to how it was initially intended to be.
To this post and your next one, thanks. B-t-w, my stress wasn't the cause of the bracket revert. The officers thought it was the best thing to do to seed the brackets back to the way it was, but now we are talking it over. Update soon to come.
On April 21 2011 14:33 Axeltoss wrote: Looks like the bracket keeps getting changed up. Care to explain? I am in a different spot then I was when it was first released. I'm not mad or anything, just curious.
EDIT:
And, for the record, I would personally prefer double elim. I'm driving a decent distance to the tournament on easter weekend, and would at least like a second chance after I get knocked out first round. Again not trying to sound angry, just some feedback.
They were balancing the brackets to have the better players spread out throughout the bracket more, which is why they moved down binski, which unfortunately took your place, which made the top, and bottom bracket leveled, but middle part sort've easier in comparison, then they moved binski to the middle part of the bracket, which made the brackets imo pretty balanced out, but then for some reason untrue's stress flipped with your comment and changed the bracket to how it was initially intended to be.
To this post and your next one, thanks. B-t-w, my stress wasn't the cause of the bracket revert. The officers thought it was the best thing to do to seed the brackets back to the way it was, but now we are talking it over. Update soon to come.
Thought you were done with this.
I was joking????
And I'm an officer and I have to do player contests and I have to send an email to all of you and I have to assign your seats. I can only wish I was done with this.
Edit: (decided to add more). And I have to practice for this saturday and I have 3 interviews next week including one requiring travel and I have two tests next week and I have a project due next week and I have to go to an awards ceremony tonight and I have to meet with the officers tomorrow and I have to help plan our CSL banquet.
Things here have gone sour real fast. Please be considerate of each others feelings towards the bracket settings int he tournament. I tend to favor the underdogs in the finals, and I am feeling delighted to know that there might be a David vs Goliath finals. We cant predict what will happen in the tournament; who knows, maybe the underdogs will step up and show good games to their fans. Ladder isn't easy, so I agree with the way the seeding is set up. There is no other realistic way of giving seeds, as not all of the top guys are "known".
Either way, I believe Jamble did a wonderful job in setting up the tournament, and huge props should go to TESPA, as their organization has done wonders for the Texas community. With that being said, I will now go watch television while on the treadmill listening to State of the game.. Audios~
In the first round. lol... Those are the first 4 players by a "legit" margin over some of the other players. I see some decent other players that I know like MaMe and Sixto that could take some games but nobody in the tournament is on the level of those 4 above.
That really sucks, for the players, the tournament, and the fans wanting to watch this. Is this single elimination? Decent drive for some players for some top players to get out in the first round.
Oh well Goodluck everyone! And lol@Hawk having NO IDEA who trimaster is. GL Hawk ahahaha
EDIT: looks like Trimaster vs ExO round 2.
I want to give predictions but it depends which Binski is there and who MaMe the xi killer faces T_T.
EDIT2: So wait is this really a single elimination tournament? So one of either Binski or Hawk both top 200 players are going to have to drive 5 hours to play a possible 3 games in a bo3?
Okay!!! Let's end this here and now. The seeding is from Top 8 from last tournament and after that comes the ladder rankings.
Let me explain a few things first. Challonge uses the standard Ro64 brackets. This picture shows it: http://www.printyourbrackets.com/pdfbrackets/64teamsingleseeded.pdf Zpux was seeded as 1. Binski and vilehawk were seeded as 8 and 9 respectively, because the 7 players were seeded first from last tournament. This is what many of you were "disturbed" about.
Now, I would like to show you another thing I made: http://sc2ranks.com/c/8842/wonderworld/ This is the list of most/all of the players in the tournament. Some of the names you didn't recognize before as a strong player, you will recognize them now because most of you didn't realize how stacked our tournament is. Be amazed. I would also note that the ladder rankings were taken on Sunday night as I've said before in the email you guys received from the online qualifiers.
Okay, so... today, I've decided to cater to your needs and use another method of making brackets that still involves the seeding of players. I used the balanced seeding from BinaryBeast. This is the result I got: http://binarybeast.com/xSC21104220 I took this bracket and transferred it over to the Challonge bracket. That is why Challonge may appear as if people are seeded oddly and the format is in "sequential" mode. Go ahead and ignore the numbers.
And so finally, I would like to introduce you to your new brackets. Yeah, that's right. The ones before were jokes to fool you and make you boil with anger (I'm kidding, they were real). http://challonge.com/tespa
So, before you complain or have any questions about the brackets, please look over the seedings and understand that not everyone can be happy. By doing this method, I at least made more people happy (I hope).
On April 22 2011 10:42 Nizzy wrote: Just saw the bracket.
ExO vs TriMaster Binski vs Hawk
In the first round. lol... Those are the first 4 players by a "legit" margin over some of the other players. I see some decent other players that I know like MaMe and Sixto that could take some games but nobody in the tournament is on the level of those 4 above.
That really sucks, for the players, the tournament, and the fans wanting to watch this. Is this single elimination? Decent drive for some players for some top players to get out in the first round.
Oh well Goodluck everyone! And lol@Hawk having NO IDEA who trimaster is. GL Hawk ahahaha
EDIT: looks like Trimaster vs ExO round 2.
I want to give predictions but it depends which Binski is there and who MaMe the xi killer faces T_T.
EDIT2: So wait is this really a single elimination tournament? So one of either Binski or Hawk both top 200 players are going to have to drive 5 hours to play a possible 3 games in a bo3?
Sigh... why are there people like you that think they know everything just ruin the enjoyment of the tournament. TeSPA has worked hard to make this tournament bigger and better than last time and you come in and try to start something again.
1. I was working on the brackets, that's why you saw Exo vs Trimaster and Binski vs Hawk. I was fixing it and you just happen to see the brackets at the wrong time.
2. Please edit your post and remove everything you just said and say you are deeply sorry.
3. Yes it is single elimination. Read the previous posts on people's comments so you can understand why it is single elimination.
EDIT2: So wait is this really a single elimination tournament?
This has been explained by both Tespa people and 3rd parties. We CANNOT do double elim. We want to, but it would have to be a multi-day event. That's not feasible, especially on Easter weekend (we've already been accused of "hating jebus", we don't need to extend the event to one of his special days).
People like me have spent a significant amount of time setting up a large scale LAN. From the time it was just an idea, to seeing it implemented, to seeing the turnout. Everything from the LAN costs, planning, players perspective etc. The MWC was a 56 person double elimination tournament and even starting 3 hours late still was able to finish in a fair amount of time in 1 day.
The last thing I'm trying to say is that I know everything, I'm just commenting from a players standpoint. I would not drive 5 hours for only a guaranteed 2 games. Sorry if it came off as complaining about your format, but as a player I would be concerned.
lol@ "people like you" why would I even comment if I've never helped host a large LAN before?
I mean this, honestly, Goodluck with the event! Texas is blowing up in esports! GL xi
On April 22 2011 11:41 Nizzy wrote: @uNture, Jacobs Ladder,
People like me have spent a significant amount of time setting up a large scale LAN. From the time it was just an idea, to seeing it implemented, to seeing the turnout. Everything from the LAN costs, planning, players perspective etc. The MWC was a 56 person double elimination tournament and even starting 3 hours late still was able to finish in a fair amount of time in 1 day.
The last thing I'm trying to say is that I know everything, I'm just commenting from a players standpoint. I would not drive 5 hours for only a guaranteed 2 games. Sorry if it came off as complaining about your format, but as a player I would be concerned.
lol@ "people like you" why would I even comment if I've never helped host a large LAN before?
I mean this, honestly, Goodluck with the event! Texas is blowing up in esports! GL xi
Edit: HOLD UP! Let me break down your post.
People like me have spent over 8 hours working on the brackets of the online qualifiers and LAN brackets. Have you?
Our organization has spent the past 6 weeks working on the tournament and getting everything done.
Our organization has spent the past semester working on IDEAS for the tournament.
From the time it was just an idea, to seeing it implemented, to seeing the turnout. This includes everything from the LAN costs, planning, players perspectives. Our Texas Open #2 has 92 players, including... double elimination for 56 players in a CUSTOM bracket.
The last thing I'm trying to say is that I know everything. I'm just commentating from a player's standpoint (I'm a player). I would drive 5 hours for only a guaranteed 2 games because we have contests, prizes, two amazing rooms, amazing casting, and an awesome crew.
And we have brawl tournaments, and other games for you to play, and concessions, and neat achievements.
And we have a sick stream ready for Saturday.
Sorry if it came off as complaining about YOUR format, but as a player I'm not concerned.
lol@ you lolling@ "people like you" why would I even comment if I've never helped host a large LAN before? Exhibit A: TeSPA tournament #1
Schooled.
Edit2: oh btw, how much was the prize pool for your tournament? We have a $1500 prize pool.
Maybe im just blind and missed it, but out of curiosity, whats the prize distribution gonna look like?
Also, pumped for the tourney :DD. I technically have to work saturday at 4pm, but if i dont get eliminated early enough, im definitely calling in and partying it up sc2 style.
I really hope to see TeSPA grow as its awesome being so close to its headquarters.
Edit: oh i forgot to add, im hoping to get some revenge on TriMaster for destroying me at MLG a few weeks ago >:D
On April 22 2011 12:46 ribeye wrote: Maybe im just blind and missed it, but out of curiosity, whats the prize distribution gonna look like?
Also, pumped for the tourney :DD. I technically have to work saturday at 4pm, but if i dont get eliminated early enough, im definitely calling in and partying it up sc2 style.
I really hope to see TeSPA grow as its awesome being so close to its headquarters.
Hey Thomas (hah I just called you out!)
Prize distribution hasn't been decided yet. I'm pretty, pretty sure Top 8 will get at least some money like last time.
Btw, even if you do get eliminated early enough, there is an awesome spectator-only room where you can play other games and join in on the brawl tournaments and get some cool prizes off raffles thanks to our awesome sponsors.
Pshh. I'm closer than you to TeSPA. Don't act like you would've known about TeSPA if it wasn't for me. It's even cooler that one of your buddies from high school helped bring about TeSPA :D
Edit: No way! I get first dibs cuz he beat me in our Ace match >.>
On April 22 2011 12:51 uNtrue_ wrote: Hey Thomas (hah I just called you out!)
Prize distribution hasn't been decided yet. I'm pretty, pretty sure Top 8 will get at least some money like last time.
Btw, even if you do get eliminated early enough, there is an awesome spectator-only room where you can play other games and join in on the brawl tournaments and get some cool prizes off raffles thanks to our awesome sponsors.
Pshh. I'm closer than you to TeSPA. Don't act like you would've known about TeSPA if it wasn't for me.
Edit: No way! I get first dibs cuz he beat me in our Ace match >.>
Why you gotta call me out bro? lol
Cool, maybe I can actually squeeze out a top 8 spot if I prep hard enough. And yeah, thinking of just calling in anyway because who needs work when you have starcraft? hah.
And I didn't know there was gonna be other things going on in the spectator room, nice. I'd get rolled in brawl though as I havnt touched it in like a year. Should be fun nonetheless.
Oh and you just reminded me that I don't think I've even seen you since HS, haha, gonna be weird. Maybe I should bring Harbert along, assuming he's free and wants to.
Im a little upset. People complained in here. So brackets were redone. Based on seeding from the last tournament however, I shouldn't have to face Trimaster or zpux (or strifecro if he came) until semi finals, as I was top 4 seeds. Current bracket has me facing zpux in quarter finals.
Releasing the brackets early then changing them numerous times is quite frankly ridiculous. If you can't handle a few people getting upset over brackets, then don't release them early.
Edit: Not sure if the brackets were in the process of being editted, or I simply read them wrong, but I've found out my previous statement was not the case. Still upset with the way the brackets have been revised repeatedly just because people were upset.
On April 22 2011 12:51 uNtrue_ wrote: Hey Thomas (hah I just called you out!)
Prize distribution hasn't been decided yet. I'm pretty, pretty sure Top 8 will get at least some money like last time.
Btw, even if you do get eliminated early enough, there is an awesome spectator-only room where you can play other games and join in on the brawl tournaments and get some cool prizes off raffles thanks to our awesome sponsors.
Pshh. I'm closer than you to TeSPA. Don't act like you would've known about TeSPA if it wasn't for me.
Edit: No way! I get first dibs cuz he beat me in our Ace match >.>
Why you gotta call me out bro? lol
Cool, maybe I can actually squeeze out a top 8 spot if I prep hard enough. And yeah, thinking of just calling in anyway because who needs work when you have starcraft? hah.
And I didn't know there was gonna be other things going on in the spectator room, nice. I'd get rolled in brawl though as I havnt touched it in like a year. Should be fun nonetheless.
Oh and you just reminded me that I don't think I've even seen you since HS, haha, gonna be weird. Maybe I should bring Harbert along, assuming he's free and wants to.
If you go to our website: http://studentorgs.utexas.edu/tespa/sponsors.html You can see our sponsors, and you can only imagine what type of prizes there will be. Contests are going to be hella fun too. If you do a certain achievement whether its when playing starcraft or in real-life, you get a raffle ticket, getting you a higher chance to win a prize or two. I won't say much more because I may get in trouble ;_;, but it's so cool.
Like I literally want to lose on purpose just so I can go be in the spectator room the entire day.
Can't wait to see you and Harbert if he comes.
[For everyone else] Please, don't look at the numbers in Challonge as seeding. I know a few of you are confused about this, but like I said in my previous post, I transferred the bracket arrangement from Binarybeast to Challonge, so I needed to "make" the Challonge bracket sequential.
On April 22 2011 13:06 ExO_ wrote: Im a little upset. People complained in here. So brackets were redone. Based on seeding from the last tournament however, I shouldn't have to face Trimaster or zpux (or strifecro if he came) until semi finals, as I was top 4 seeds. Current bracket has me facing zpux in quarter finals.
Releasing the brackets early then changing them numerous times is quite frankly ridiculous. If you can't handle a few people getting upset over brackets, then don't release them early.
Edit: Not sure if the brackets were in the process of being editted, or I simply read them wrong, but I've found out my previous statement was not the case. Still upset with the way the brackets have been revised repeatedly just because people were upset.
I'm terribly, terribly sorry for this. Many, many people continued to poke me to release the brackets, and when I finally did, they were enraged. I realize the mistake I have done in releasing the brackets too early and I apologize.
I would like to mention the brackets have not necessarily been "revised". I didn't do any fixing or anything. My method is as I've mentioned before. I basically seeded everyone as I said, Top 8 into ladder rankings and put them in binarybeast and this time I chose balanced instead of traditional seeding. This gave me what you currently see now in Challonge.
My reasoning to switch methods is also because we wanted to cater to make the majority have a much fair, healthier bracket. So far I've only been getting positive comments on the new brackets. Again, I only did a different method. No fixing the brackets was done.
Same exact rules, seeding, and idea, but different method. I hope you accept my apology and understand that in the future, we will work harder to give you guys a better tournament.
On April 22 2011 13:06 ExO_ wrote: Im a little upset. People complained in here. So brackets were redone. Based on seeding from the last tournament however, I shouldn't have to face Trimaster or zpux (or strifecro if he came) until semi finals, as I was top 4 seeds. Current bracket has me facing zpux in quarter finals.
Releasing the brackets early then changing them numerous times is quite frankly ridiculous. If you can't handle a few people getting upset over brackets, then don't release them early.
Edit: Not sure if the brackets were in the process of being editted, or I simply read them wrong, but I've found out my previous statement was not the case. Still upset with the way the brackets have been revised repeatedly just because people were upset.
I'm terribly, terribly sorry for this. Many, many people continued to poke me to release the brackets, and when I finally did, they were enraged. I realize the mistake I have done in releasing the brackets too early and I apologize.
I would like to mention the brackets have not necessarily been "revised". I didn't do any fixing or anything. My method is as I've mentioned before. I basically seeded everyone as I said, Top 8 into ladder rankings and put them and in binarybeast and this time I chose balanced instead of traditional seeding. This gave me what you currently see now in Challonge.
My reasoning to switch methods is also because we wanted to cater to make the majority have a much fair, healthier bracket. So far I've only been getting positive comments on the new brackets. Again, I only did a different method. No fixing the brackets was done.
Same exact rules, seeding, and idea, but different method. I hope you accept my apology and understand that in the future, we will work harder to give you guys a better tournament.
So is seeding done by top 8 (7) from last round, or by top ladder ratings?
On April 22 2011 13:06 ExO_ wrote: Im a little upset. People complained in here. So brackets were redone. Based on seeding from the last tournament however, I shouldn't have to face Trimaster or zpux (or strifecro if he came) until semi finals, as I was top 4 seeds. Current bracket has me facing zpux in quarter finals.
Releasing the brackets early then changing them numerous times is quite frankly ridiculous. If you can't handle a few people getting upset over brackets, then don't release them early.
Edit: Not sure if the brackets were in the process of being editted, or I simply read them wrong, but I've found out my previous statement was not the case. Still upset with the way the brackets have been revised repeatedly just because people were upset.
I'm terribly, terribly sorry for this. Many, many people continued to poke me to release the brackets, and when I finally did, they were enraged. I realize the mistake I have done in releasing the brackets too early and I apologize.
I would like to mention the brackets have not necessarily been "revised". I didn't do any fixing or anything. My method is as I've mentioned before. I basically seeded everyone as I said, Top 8 into ladder rankings and put them and in binarybeast and this time I chose balanced instead of traditional seeding. This gave me what you currently see now in Challonge.
My reasoning to switch methods is also because we wanted to cater to make the majority have a much fair, healthier bracket. So far I've only been getting positive comments on the new brackets. Again, I only did a different method. No fixing the brackets was done.
Same exact rules, seeding, and idea, but different method. I hope you accept my apology and understand that in the future, we will work harder to give you guys a better tournament.
So is seeding done by top 8 (7) from last round, or by top ladder ratings?
Seeding is done with top 8 first and then followed by ladder rankings. So 1-7 is the top 8 and after that is the ladder ratings. Exact same as before, nothing was changed.
On April 22 2011 13:06 ExO_ wrote: Im a little upset. People complained in here. So brackets were redone. Based on seeding from the last tournament however, I shouldn't have to face Trimaster or zpux (or strifecro if he came) until semi finals, as I was top 4 seeds. Current bracket has me facing zpux in quarter finals.
Releasing the brackets early then changing them numerous times is quite frankly ridiculous. If you can't handle a few people getting upset over brackets, then don't release them early.
Edit: Not sure if the brackets were in the process of being editted, or I simply read them wrong, but I've found out my previous statement was not the case. Still upset with the way the brackets have been revised repeatedly just because people were upset.
I'm terribly, terribly sorry for this. Many, many people continued to poke me to release the brackets, and when I finally did, they were enraged. I realize the mistake I have done in releasing the brackets too early and I apologize.
I would like to mention the brackets have not necessarily been "revised". I didn't do any fixing or anything. My method is as I've mentioned before. I basically seeded everyone as I said, Top 8 into ladder rankings and put them and in binarybeast and this time I chose balanced instead of traditional seeding. This gave me what you currently see now in Challonge.
My reasoning to switch methods is also because we wanted to cater to make the majority have a much fair, healthier bracket. So far I've only been getting positive comments on the new brackets. Again, I only did a different method. No fixing the brackets was done.
Same exact rules, seeding, and idea, but different method. I hope you accept my apology and understand that in the future, we will work harder to give you guys a better tournament.
So is seeding done by top 8 (7) from last round, or by top ladder ratings?
Seeding is done with top 8 first and then followed by ladder rankings. So 1-7 is the top 8 and after that is the ladder ratings. Exact same as before, nothing was changed.
Then seeding was done wrong. I'm no expert on how perfect seeding should be done, but I do know that I should be #3 seed in this tournament. assuming all seeds advance, the #1 seed should face the #4 seed in the semi finals. (as indicated by the post you linked here http://www.printyourbrackets.com/pdfbrackets/64teamsingleseeded.pdf) zpux, as the #1 seed, shouldn't face me as the #3 seed in the semi finals, but in the current bracket he would be.
So either the seeding is different than described, or there is an error. Please understand, I am not trying to get on your ass about this. But this is a LAN event with a cash prize, and I as a competitor take it very seriously.
On April 22 2011 13:06 ExO_ wrote: Im a little upset. People complained in here. So brackets were redone. Based on seeding from the last tournament however, I shouldn't have to face Trimaster or zpux (or strifecro if he came) until semi finals, as I was top 4 seeds. Current bracket has me facing zpux in quarter finals.
Releasing the brackets early then changing them numerous times is quite frankly ridiculous. If you can't handle a few people getting upset over brackets, then don't release them early.
Edit: Not sure if the brackets were in the process of being editted, or I simply read them wrong, but I've found out my previous statement was not the case. Still upset with the way the brackets have been revised repeatedly just because people were upset.
I'm terribly, terribly sorry for this. Many, many people continued to poke me to release the brackets, and when I finally did, they were enraged. I realize the mistake I have done in releasing the brackets too early and I apologize.
I would like to mention the brackets have not necessarily been "revised". I didn't do any fixing or anything. My method is as I've mentioned before. I basically seeded everyone as I said, Top 8 into ladder rankings and put them and in binarybeast and this time I chose balanced instead of traditional seeding. This gave me what you currently see now in Challonge.
My reasoning to switch methods is also because we wanted to cater to make the majority have a much fair, healthier bracket. So far I've only been getting positive comments on the new brackets. Again, I only did a different method. No fixing the brackets was done.
Same exact rules, seeding, and idea, but different method. I hope you accept my apology and understand that in the future, we will work harder to give you guys a better tournament.
So is seeding done by top 8 (7) from last round, or by top ladder ratings?
Seeding is done with top 8 first and then followed by ladder rankings. So 1-7 is the top 8 and after that is the ladder ratings. Exact same as before, nothing was changed.
Then seeding was done wrong. I'm no expert on how perfect seeding should be done, but I do know that I should be #3 seed in this tournament. assuming all seeds advance, the #1 seed should face the #4 seed in the semi finals. (as indicated by the post you linked here http://www.printyourbrackets.com/pdfbrackets/64teamsingleseeded.pdf) zpux, as the #1 seed, shouldn't face me as the #3 seed in the semi finals, but in the current bracket he would be.
So either the seeding is different than described, or there is an error. Please understand, I am not trying to get on your ass about this. But this is a LAN event with a cash prize, and I as a competitor take it very seriously.
What the link shows you there is what they call the standard Ro64 brackets or what Binarybeast calls "Traditional". Binarybeast has two methods of making brackets when you seed players, traditional and balanced. If I was to use the traditional method, I would get the brackets you see in that link you just posted. This time I used balanced. I do not know the format of the brackets in "balanced" but this is what it gave me when I entered the seedings in.
Let me know if you are still confused or concerned.
On April 22 2011 13:41 SniXSniPe wrote: exo is just scared of mame cause he always loses to him =)
When I looked a few hours ago, Mame was 11th on our sc2ranks list. I don't know what he was on Sunday, but if we took for example a few hours ago, 11+7 = 18th seed, thus it's no surprise exo may be put up against him in Round of 2.
I'm sorry if it just happened to be that way, but I can only take seedings once for ladder rankings.
On April 22 2011 13:42 ExO_ wrote: So by using balanced, to some regard the original seeding is being disregarded?
I never seeded it differently at all. All the brackets you have seen starts with top 8 seeded first and then ladder rankings follow in seeding. Understand that seeding has NEVER been changed, I've kept it since Sunday night's record.
As for "balanced" mode, I would like to show you this image:
As you can see, this is Binarybeast's own method of seeding Ro64. I believe their balanced method spreads out the higher seeds a little bit more. I used their balanced format as you can see in my previous post with the binarybeast link.
I would like to note that any tournament that uses Binarybeast has the option to use the balanced method as well and you would've never known.
So here's my problem with this, and please nobody take offense:
It's obvious some of the better players in the bracket did not attend the LAN event last time, and as such some seeds from #4-#7 contain players who are not as good as some of the people seeded below them. It is because of this that the bracket appeared "stacked" at one point in time. Now however, original seeding is no longer being applied. For instance, I've essentially dropped from a #3 seed to a #4 seed, because assuming higher seeds advance Id have to face the #1 seed in the semis instead of the #2.
Furthermore that image above does not describe how binary beast determines " seeding based on team rank in as fair a manner as possible to accommodate all teams". I would like to see how it calculates that.
Edit: To further clarify my point: by saying the original seeding was kept, but just a different method of arranging the brackets was choosen, is to me the same as essentially changing the seeds.
On April 22 2011 14:08 ExO_ wrote: So here's my problem with this, and please nobody take offense:
It's obvious some of the better players in the bracket did not attend the LAN event last time, and as such some seeds from #4-#7 contain players who are not as good as some of the people seeded below them. It is because of this that the bracket appeared "stacked" at one point in time. Now however, original seeding is no longer being applied. For instance, I've essentially dropped from a #3 seed to a #4 seed, because assuming higher seeds advance Id have to face the #1 seed in the semis instead of the #2.
Furthermore that image above does not describe how binary beast determines " seeding based on team rank in as fair a manner as possible to accommodate all teams". I would like to see how it calculates that.
@ the binary beast comment: I'd like to know too actually. It should be somewhere around their site maybe... but that's what I directly copy-pasted from print screen.
@ the bracket comment: I understand and agree with you 100% as to why the brackets seemed to be stacked in the previous brackets
So are you suggesting we revert back to the previous bracket? If I remember correctly, binski and hawk would have to play against each other in the second round, which in my opinion, is much worse than you having to play the #1 seed instead of the #2 in the semis.
And yes, it all comes back down to what we promised last tournament, saying the Top 8 from the first Texas Open would be seeded first. Back then we weren't aware of the major consequences that are going on now. If we hadn't promised that, the brackets now would've been much easier to accept. And for obvious reasons, we can't go back on our promise.
So, now that we've pretty much cleared up the issues and problems, what brackets would you feel would be better? The first one or the second one? Keep in mind, so far you are the only one that has been a little uneasy about the new bracket.
Edit: Again, seeding has never been changed. It's top 8 into the ladder rankings. The only thing that's changed between the two brackets is the method of arranging players into the bracket.
Edit2: You mentioned it's essentially like seeding has been changed? So what if the very first brackets I posted was using Binarybeast's balanced bracket system with the exact same seeding? Would you have said the same thing? I'm not trying to be harsh, but I don't think you realize you can't change seeding by changing your method. If you are #1 you will always be #1. If you are #7 you are always going to be #7. Just where they place you is only slightly different, and if I remember right, some people are still in the same spot (for example Zpux and snixsnipe).
I think the way binarybeast thinks about this is that they don't recognize a #64 seeded player to be much/if any different than a #63 player. It's literally 1 number apart. I don't see how vastly different these two player's skill level is. Same with the issue you talked about, a #1 compared to a #2 seed is pretty close imo.
I understand where you are coming from, and your argument has alot of substance to it.
Can we get an update on parking directions for spectators? Or was it posted and I missed it among all the bitching? Are you people really complaining about seeding screwing you over? The best player will win, if you get matched against someone good early and lose, tough luck, should have played better.
On April 22 2011 16:06 Sully907 wrote: Can we get an update on parking directions for spectators? Or was it posted and I missed it among all the bitching? Are you people really complaining about seeding screwing you over? The best player will win, if you get matched against someone good early and lose, tough luck, should have played better.
Parking/Directions: Parking for this event has been secured in the San Jacinto Garage located at 2401 San Jacinto Boulevard, Austin, TX. Parking in the garage for the day is not free. However, there should be an abundance of free parking spots on San Jacinto Blvd. between 23rd St. and Dean Keeton St. Read the signs carefully - some of these spots require a UT parking permit at all times, although most do not. For a visual, check out this map.
As an update, we have over $1250 in prizes to give away at the event for spectators! Among these are: - Gaming gear from TTesports - Graphic Card and Motherboard from EVGA - Computer Games (Huge thanks to NVIDIA!) - T-shirts (TeSPA, Microsoft, and NVIDIA) - and more!
We're going to have a full schedule of contests, trivia, side tournaments, interviews, and of course unforgettable games. I look forward to seeing everyone there!
If there are any questions or concerns about spectator parking/instructions, please PM me.
Bracket and Predictions Contest: Before you come to the tournament be sure to visit the bracket page as well and submit your predictions for the tournament. You get raffles for correct predictions. Make sure that when you submit a bracket prediction, you type in your First and Last name in the title so we can identify who made the prediction. You must be present at the end of the day in order to be eligible to win the bracket prediction contests. We will stop accepting entries at 10:00am sharp on Saturday morning.
On April 22 2011 17:52 FluX- wrote: Bracket and Predictions Contest: Before you come to the tournament be sure to visit the bracket page as well and submit your predictions for the tournament. You get raffles for correct predictions. Make sure that when you submit a bracket prediction, you type in your First and Last name in the title so we can identify who made the prediction. You must be present at the end of the day in order to be eligible to win the bracket prediction contests. We will stop accepting entries at 10:00am sharp on Saturday morning.
Gamers to host video game tournament By Allistair Pinsof, Daily Texan Staff Published: Thursday, April 21, 2011
With $1,500 on the line, 128 competitive gamers from across Texas will gather on UT campus Saturday for the largest collegiate “StarCraft II” tournament yet.
Last fall, UT organization Texas e-Sports Association hosted its first tournament of popular PC strategy game “StarCraft II.” The event brought together 64 players who won $700 in prizes. This year’s tournament, TeSPA Texas Open, offers more than double the amount of prize money, a new venue for spectators and an improved multiple camera video feed of the event that will be broadcast to the spectator room in Robert Lee Moore Hall and online via justin.tv.
The biggest difference, though, is that the UT organization, which only started last fall, will be receiving sponsorship from Intel, Microsoft, NVIDIA and Texas Parents.
“This little organization of ours is starting to get some statewide attention,” said Tyler Rosen, aerospace senior and the event’s coordinator. The tournament’s preliminaries were played exclusively online April 16, but this coming weekend, the players in the top of the tournament’s bracket will go head to head. The tournament, which will last from 10 a.m. to 8 p.m., will be played in front of a live audience and broadcast online through the live streaming website.
Rosen, along with his identical twin brother Adam, formed the group after discovering a new love for “Starcraft II” last summer.
“Everybody plays games or knows somebody who plays games on campus,” said Adam Rosen, an aerospace senior. “Until TeSPA, there really wasn’t place on campus to play games together, improve and even compete.”
Twenty-five people showed up to the organization’s first meeting, but the group quickly grew in size over the months. Currently, the group is a collective of more than 200 UT students who share a passion for competitive gaming, with a focus on acclaimed strategy title “Starcraft II.”
The twin brothers seek to capture the excitement and prestige that live “Starcraft” matches hold in South Korea by improving the spectator experience. Last year, spectators and players were both hosted in the same room in the Academic Annex, next to Robert Lee Moore Hall. This year, spectators will watch the matches from a large projection screen in RLM’s auditorium. In addition to more space, the event will also offer food, raffles for computer hardware, trivia games and stations where console games can be played.
The spectator experience will also see new changes with multiple cameras, live commentary about the matches and interviews with players between games.
The tournament will also be covered by the Austin American-Statesman.
Gamers to host video game tournament By Allistair Pinsof, Daily Texan Staff Published: Thursday, April 21, 2011
With $1,500 on the line, 128 competitive gamers from across Texas will gather on UT campus Saturday for the largest collegiate “StarCraft II” tournament yet.
Last fall, UT organization Texas e-Sports Association hosted its first tournament of popular PC strategy game “StarCraft II.” The event brought together 64 players who won $700 in prizes. This year’s tournament, TeSPA Texas Open, offers more than double the amount of prize money, a new venue for spectators and an improved multiple camera video feed of the event that will be broadcast to the spectator room in Robert Lee Moore Hall and online via justin.tv.
The biggest difference, though, is that the UT organization, which only started last fall, will be receiving sponsorship from Intel, Microsoft, NVIDIA and Texas Parents.
“This little organization of ours is starting to get some statewide attention,” said Tyler Rosen, aerospace senior and the event’s coordinator. The tournament’s preliminaries were played exclusively online April 16, but this coming weekend, the players in the top of the tournament’s bracket will go head to head. The tournament, which will last from 10 a.m. to 8 p.m., will be played in front of a live audience and broadcast online through the live streaming website.
Rosen, along with his identical twin brother Adam, formed the group after discovering a new love for “Starcraft II” last summer.
“Everybody plays games or knows somebody who plays games on campus,” said Adam Rosen, an aerospace senior. “Until TeSPA, there really wasn’t place on campus to play games together, improve and even compete.”
Twenty-five people showed up to the organization’s first meeting, but the group quickly grew in size over the months. Currently, the group is a collective of more than 200 UT students who share a passion for competitive gaming, with a focus on acclaimed strategy title “Starcraft II.”
The twin brothers seek to capture the excitement and prestige that live “Starcraft” matches hold in South Korea by improving the spectator experience. Last year, spectators and players were both hosted in the same room in the Academic Annex, next to Robert Lee Moore Hall. This year, spectators will watch the matches from a large projection screen in RLM’s auditorium. In addition to more space, the event will also offer food, raffles for computer hardware, trivia games and stations where console games can be played.
The spectator experience will also see new changes with multiple cameras, live commentary about the matches and interviews with players between games.
Uh... I'm *so* photogenic e__e"
Good luck to everyone going for achievements! I look forward to your crusade *evil laugh*
Gamers to host video game tournament By Allistair Pinsof, Daily Texan Staff Published: Thursday, April 21, 2011
With $1,500 on the line, 128 competitive gamers from across Texas will gather on UT campus Saturday for the largest collegiate “StarCraft II” tournament yet.
Last fall, UT organization Texas e-Sports Association hosted its first tournament of popular PC strategy game “StarCraft II.” The event brought together 64 players who won $700 in prizes. This year’s tournament, TeSPA Texas Open, offers more than double the amount of prize money, a new venue for spectators and an improved multiple camera video feed of the event that will be broadcast to the spectator room in Robert Lee Moore Hall and online via justin.tv.
The biggest difference, though, is that the UT organization, which only started last fall, will be receiving sponsorship from Intel, Microsoft, NVIDIA and Texas Parents.
“This little organization of ours is starting to get some statewide attention,” said Tyler Rosen, aerospace senior and the event’s coordinator. The tournament’s preliminaries were played exclusively online April 16, but this coming weekend, the players in the top of the tournament’s bracket will go head to head. The tournament, which will last from 10 a.m. to 8 p.m., will be played in front of a live audience and broadcast online through the live streaming website.
Rosen, along with his identical twin brother Adam, formed the group after discovering a new love for “Starcraft II” last summer.
“Everybody plays games or knows somebody who plays games on campus,” said Adam Rosen, an aerospace senior. “Until TeSPA, there really wasn’t place on campus to play games together, improve and even compete.”
Twenty-five people showed up to the organization’s first meeting, but the group quickly grew in size over the months. Currently, the group is a collective of more than 200 UT students who share a passion for competitive gaming, with a focus on acclaimed strategy title “Starcraft II.”
The twin brothers seek to capture the excitement and prestige that live “Starcraft” matches hold in South Korea by improving the spectator experience. Last year, spectators and players were both hosted in the same room in the Academic Annex, next to Robert Lee Moore Hall. This year, spectators will watch the matches from a large projection screen in RLM’s auditorium. In addition to more space, the event will also offer food, raffles for computer hardware, trivia games and stations where console games can be played.
The spectator experience will also see new changes with multiple cameras, live commentary about the matches and interviews with players between games.
Uh... I'm *so* photogenic e__e"
Good luck to everyone going for achievements! I look forward to your crusade *evil laugh*
Isn't referencing the Crusades on easter weekend bad form?
On April 21 2011 14:33 Axeltoss wrote: Looks like the bracket keeps getting changed up. Care to explain? I am in a different spot then I was when it was first released. I'm not mad or anything, just curious.
EDIT:
And, for the record, I would personally prefer double elim. I'm driving a decent distance to the tournament on easter weekend, and would at least like a second chance after I get knocked out first round. Again not trying to sound angry, just some feedback.
They were balancing the brackets to have the better players spread out throughout the bracket more, which is why they moved down binski, which unfortunately took your place, which made the top, and bottom bracket leveled, but middle part sort've easier in comparison, then they moved binski to the middle part of the bracket, which made the brackets imo pretty balanced out, but then for some reason untrue's stress flipped with your comment and changed the bracket to how it was initially intended to be.
To this post and your next one, thanks. B-t-w, my stress wasn't the cause of the bracket revert. The officers thought it was the best thing to do to seed the brackets back to the way it was, but now we are talking it over. Update soon to come.
Thought you were done with this.
I was joking????
And I'm an officer and I have to do player contests and I have to send an email to all of you and I have to assign your seats. I can only wish I was done with this.
Edit: (decided to add more). And I have to practice for this saturday and I have 3 interviews next week including one requiring travel and I have two tests next week and I have a project due next week and I have to go to an awards ceremony tonight and I have to meet with the officers tomorrow and I have to help plan our CSL banquet.
If you want to be done with this you shouldn't procrastinate.
Also my question has gone unanswered so I'll try again ^^, can non tourney players bring a comp to play practice games etc. with others in the player room? Spec'ing all day would be really really boring for me :<.
I think people should take this tournament a little less serious... It is for fun and there are prizes. Plus the level of players participating is pretty low compared to say a regular US craftcup or small europe tourney.
I've tuned in to this after TSL3 today and I'm really enjoying the broadcast so far. The audio quality is a tad questionable at times, but the production really looks like a labor of Love. Thanks for running this! :D
On April 24 2011 07:52 Wout wrote: I've tuned in to this after TSL3 today and I'm really enjoying the broadcast so far. The audio quality is a tad questionable at times, but the production really looks like a labor of Love. Thanks for running this! :D
Thanks so much to the TeSPA's amazing officer team, our volunteers, and the support and participation of everyone across the state for making our Texas Open tournament a huge success! Over 12,000 stream views in a single day makes me incredibly happy about how far we have come in such a short period of time. :D
Any comments, suggestions, and criticism about the experience would be very much appreciated so we can improve for next time.
I was sad the technical issues put the event so behind schedule and I couldn't stay for the final, but other then that, the event was well run. Tespa is such a young organization and I think it has a great future ahead of it
I'll put together replays tonight or tomorrow depending on how much hair I pull out over school work. Whoever I spoke to from Gosu Gamers who needed the finals/semis, feel free to email me for them tonight (calder.j@gmail.com)
Here's a video created by The Daily Texan, the campus newspaper at UT, covering our online qualifiers. It's a nice overview of e-Sports for the average person.
For everyone who attended, here is a quick survey we're looking to have participants fill out so that we can improve future events. If you could take a couple minutes to give us your thoughts, it would really help us.
On April 22 2011 14:08 ExO_ wrote: So here's my problem with this, and please nobody take offense:
It's obvious some of the better players in the bracket did not attend the LAN event last time, and as such some seeds from #4-#7 contain players who are not as good as some of the people seeded below them. It is because of this that the bracket appeared "stacked" at one point in time. Now however, original seeding is no longer being applied. For instance, I've essentially dropped from a #3 seed to a #4 seed, because assuming higher seeds advance Id have to face the #1 seed in the semis instead of the #2.
Furthermore that image above does not describe how binary beast determines " seeding based on team rank in as fair a manner as possible to accommodate all teams". I would like to see how it calculates that.
Edit: To further clarify my point: by saying the original seeding was kept, but just a different method of arranging the brackets was choosen, is to me the same as essentially changing the seeds.
Sorry for the delayed response, I just noticed this.. we have a small wiki page that defines the differences in seedings if you'd like to read a better description with a couple of examples:
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