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beat farm
Profile Joined October 2010
United States478 Posts
March 09 2011 12:29 GMT
#641
my liquid bet strategy.
vote for mc in code S
vote for supernova in code A
its been working out well.
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
March 09 2011 12:47 GMT
#642
at least IM can still win "something"
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
danielsan
Profile Joined December 2010
Romania399 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 12:59:51
March 09 2011 12:52 GMT
#643
On March 09 2011 20:46 HankScorpio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2011 20:29 Greenworld wrote:




He noticed the banshee before the shrine finished or at least he should have noticed it, 2'nd he went for fast 3'rd the gold expand and teching to dts. How do you call going for a fast 3'rd and teching , it was a gamble he took if his enemy didn't have detection he would have bought time for his 3'rd ( the gold to kick in) and win. It was a gamble that he lost and his odds went really down in the moment he noticed the banshee(enemy has a starport and a reaven is probably coming) and still went for dts.

and 2'nd game the terran "gambled" he said ok , if i have clocked banshee and keep the towers there will be a very low chance he scouts my 3'rd fast and it will kick in and give me the advantage i need. So if you think about it they are the same strats in both games but executed by different players - i have map control with invisible units and i get a really fast 3'rd and the invisible will buy me time. So if you qq about what happened in any of the game ...


That's all I'm saying. Alicia wasn't outplayed, he was out lucked this series.


Technically you're right, one can't get outplayed as you can't multiply a 0 play.

Not having success with a greedy expand followed by a blind DT tech is mostly the universal laws of common sense interfering.


Taking huge risks and getting free wins is not really called strategy, it's called craps.
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
March 09 2011 13:29 GMT
#644
This is a common law of Starcraft:
- When both players play standard game with low risk, the better player wins.
- When both players opt for something crazy and start panicing, usually terran comes on top. Its fundamental design of races. It has nothing to do with imbalance.

So the lesson is: play standard.
Its grack
cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 14:06:56
March 09 2011 14:00 GMT
#645
On March 09 2011 20:58 monie wrote:
Man, this day would have been so much better with bo5's

Yeah, I agree... I thought it was going to be, sad to see my favorite Code A player knocked out (Alicia) after only two games.


Man, the games were so close... first game he could've had if his first attack dealt a bit more economic damage, and kept up with his macro better (with the gold base, he had nearly 2k minerals banked, ~10 more chargelots would've done wonders)

Second game was careless, he just dealt with the banshees extremely poorly. Better management with the Banshee counter and he would have taken it (would have slightly delayed the push, but should've still been enough)

Still, even with these losses I feel he's one of the best PvT'ers in the world, both games were in his grasp. Just polish up his play here & there and he'll be unstoppable. Looking forward to seeing how he does in Code S after his inevitable stomping in the Up & Down matches, just hoping he doesn't have to take out his teammate (erm, SlayerS_BoxeR)
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 17:04:22
March 09 2011 17:03 GMT
#646
What was the score between the two matches so I can update the OP

EDIT: nvm mod must of updated
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
March 09 2011 17:32 GMT
#647
On March 10 2011 02:03 skrzmark wrote:
What was the score between the two matches so I can update the OP

EDIT: nvm mod must of updated


Haha, did you just go to sleep after creating the OP?
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
March 09 2011 18:09 GMT
#648
Nooo, i love Alicia style man ( Too bad he didn't pay attention in game 2
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
March 09 2011 18:15 GMT
#649
wow, i'll definatelly have to watch the games because i did not expect this to happen at all.
Live it, love it, play it, kill it. JulyZerg and IPXZerg greatest TL.net fan
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
March 09 2011 18:28 GMT
#650
Alicia played so sloppily yesterday; I'm really surprised and disappointed. First game he had literally 2k minerals banked up at some points-- Didn't macro well at all. Then in the second game, his decision making was pretty downright terrible. It wasn't even about not scouting the third base. It was about trying to force his way through. He should have just forced the natural CC to lift up, killing units in a safe position while preparing another army to go into the main. Instead, he went into the main overconfidently and ended up losing his army slowly to Supernovas while losing all probes at home to two banshees.
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cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
March 09 2011 19:39 GMT
#651
Hmm, reading through the thread it seems as if people attribute Alicia's first loss to his decisions (going DT's + Gold Expo), but that really wasn't what lost him the game. In fact, I think he mostly made the right decisions, his only problem was his macro slipped up - In game one, he was sitting on 2k minerals, had he kept up with warpgate production to defend properly he'd have been fine. Many players still have a hard time getting used to the boost in minerals gold bases give you, I guess...

Game 2, I imagine he just thought the game was over and got overconfident, probably also a little on tilt after the first (humiliating) loss. Hopefully he learns from this experience.

Just give the guy some time, the potential is there. Besides MC, he's the only Protoss that actually impresses me... like MVP/MC, he's just a bomb waiting to go off (maybe to a lesser extent, but I'm betting it'll happen)
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
March 09 2011 21:30 GMT
#652
Eh, I feel like Alicia is another one of those players that sometimes underperforms but who many people say is really good. Don't forget that MC/MVP also had that reputation for a long time, even though MC never showed anything spectacular until GSL3 (getting eliminated by Polt in R64 of GSL1 and Nestea in R16 of GSL2) and MVP never showed anything that impressive until GSL4 (killed by Zenio in GSL2, Choya in GSL3). I'm sure he'll come round.
massivez
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium653 Posts
March 09 2011 21:44 GMT
#653
Does winning code A automatically put you in code S?
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
March 09 2011 22:34 GMT
#654
Just watched the VODs...some pretty bad games, but even worse commentary. Zero analysis, zero humor. I couldn't believe the stuff they were missing (extra bases, good micro that they criticized, banshees getting 40 kills on the minimap). Does anybody know if Tastosis will be casting the finals?
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Angry.Zerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico305 Posts
March 09 2011 22:48 GMT
#655
On March 10 2011 06:44 massivez wrote:
Does winning code A automatically put you in code S?


No, but you can choose your opponents.
You play to win
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
March 09 2011 23:23 GMT
#656
I am just watching the VODs now.

When the guy said, "The game is started, lets get inside of it!" he realised what he'd said and was trying SO hard not to start laughing.

The look he gives kelly right before the camera cuts to the game is fucking priceless.\

omg im still lol'ing
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
March 10 2011 03:17 GMT
#657
On March 09 2011 18:30 Throat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2011 18:28 Dominating wrote:
I fail to see where in my post I said that Tasteless has never made a mistake casting. Could you point it out to me?


Well it's kind of annoying that Kelly gets so much hate for a mistake but when Tasteless says something stupid no one says anything.

WHERES THE LOVE


Plenty of people know Tasteless's SC2 game sense is poor, but at least he's understandable and he's funny.
The spice must flow
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
March 10 2011 04:28 GMT
#658
Semifinals of code A should be at least bo5. Bo3 semifinals is not only bad for us viewers and the inhouse viewers, it's bad for the players too.
The spice must flow
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
March 10 2011 05:01 GMT
#659
Sad for Leenock

I hope he smashes his up and down matches.

I also thought i picked supernova. Was shocked to see i picked Alicia. Whatever.

Definitely agree Bo5 would've been so much better. Not only because they're bigger games, but with 2 series both going 2-0, that's only 4 matches
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
March 10 2011 05:06 GMT
#660
On March 10 2011 07:48 azka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 06:44 massivez wrote:
Does winning code A automatically put you in code S?


No, but you can choose your opponents.


I think it does this season because of IdrA leaving.
CommentatorAustralian SC2 Caster | Twitter: @MaynardeSC2 | Twitch: twitch.tv/maynarde
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