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Geegeez
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada226 Posts
March 05 2011 07:16 GMT
#901
Wow, Tester. We need oGssSKS back.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
March 05 2011 07:16 GMT
#902
On March 05 2011 16:14 HolyArrow wrote:
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On March 05 2011 16:10 TheTenthDoc wrote:
The first generation of SC2 pros is definitely past their prime now. Fruitdealer, Tester, etc. just either can't or won't keep up.


A broad generalization with cherry-picked "evidence". Nestea and MC can also be considered "first-generation" considering they were around in the first GSL as well. Also, SanZenith. I don't see them failing. Sure, Nestea got taken out early, but that doesn't mean anything. FD is a a great player who's had some poor showings in the last 2 GSLs, but he's innovative and I'm sure we haven't seen the last of him. Statements like these make them sound like they're getting completely destroyed in their games and make platinum-level mistakes all the time.


I meant the first generation of SC2 beta players more than "GSL players". Fruit, Tester, Rainbow, and others all have had great showings but the comparably newer players are just consistently beating them. When I say they're past their prime I'm saying they're losing to better players. It happened consistently in BW and it will happen in SC2 as well. The old guard is changing.
Mise
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland580 Posts
March 05 2011 07:17 GMT
#903
On March 05 2011 16:14 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2011 16:10 TheTenthDoc wrote:
The first generation of SC2 pros is definitely past their prime now. Fruitdealer, Tester, etc. just either can't or won't keep up.


A broad generalization with cherry-picked "evidence". Nestea and MC can also be considered "first-generation" considering they were around in the first GSL as well. Also, SanZenith. I don't see them failing. Sure, Nestea got taken out early, but that doesn't mean anything. FD is a a great player who's had some poor showings in the last 2 GSLs, but he's innovative and I'm sure we haven't seen the last of him. Statements like these make them sound like they're getting completely destroyed in their games and make platinum-level mistakes all the time.

NesTea and MC weren't big names untill later and San was a nobody till last week. They weren't really the first generation players.

The early top players, such as FD, RainBOw, So Ki Soo, Maka etc. have all fallen and are decent at best today.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
March 05 2011 07:17 GMT
#904
On March 05 2011 16:13 PartyBiscuit wrote:
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On March 05 2011 16:11 slyboogie wrote:
Tester has been deep in multiple GSLs. Nothing really excuses his poor performance tonight but he is, deservingly, a Code S player. Still, this was the worst series ever.

Actually, Tester made round of 8 ONCE, failed to qualify for GSL2 and 3, and made Round of 16 last season (and this now).


I feel that that is deep. He was beat by MVP in last season 3-0 and Rainbow in GSL 1. He failed to qualify for 2 and 3 yes. Round of 16 this time - say what you want about the quality of his opponent but those are deep rounds. I mean, look at Idra, a great player - a top 3 Zerg (arguably?) and his GSL runs are no more impressive. There are tons of good players who don't win, it's a tournament.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Alphaes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States651 Posts
March 05 2011 07:17 GMT
#905
On March 05 2011 16:14 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2011 16:10 TheTenthDoc wrote:
The first generation of SC2 pros is definitely past their prime now. Fruitdealer, Tester, etc. just either can't or won't keep up.


A broad generalization with cherry-picked "evidence". Nestea and MC can also be considered "first-generation" considering they were around in the first GSL as well. Also, SanZenith. I don't see them failing. Sure, Nestea got taken out early, but that doesn't mean anything. FD is a a great player who's had some poor showings in the last 2 GSLs, but he's innovative and I'm sure we haven't seen the last of him. Statements like these make them sound like they're getting completely destroyed in their games and make platinum-level mistakes all the time.


Actually first generation probably refer to Beta stage players. I'm pretty sure both Nestea and MC started significantly later than FD, Tester, and possibly Rainbow as they were still on BW teams during that time.
What this
Clare
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States372 Posts
March 05 2011 07:17 GMT
#906
On March 05 2011 16:16 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
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Did anyone else notice that Tester's storms have attitude with them lol? Compared to sans which are like trying to hold units off, Tester's are like smacking the terran around.


Lol didn't see but it sounds so... sensual? xD Like the way you describe it.

I get very aroused by good psi storms. lol.
The dashboard melted but we still had the radio.
Pasado
Profile Joined December 2010
United States142 Posts
March 05 2011 07:17 GMT
#907
Sucks MVP got knocked out, but we're stuck with SC and HongUn, oh well.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-05 07:19:43
March 05 2011 07:17 GMT
#908
Hahahahaha seriously people?

That was not even close to the worst series in the GSL so far. TesteR is not "B team material" or a "fucking terrible player". sC isn't too great either, but both of these players are easily as good if not better than the players who played in the series before them. Good games are not indicative of the skill level of the players. A group of these first four players is going to be won by the two latter players the majority of the time.
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Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
March 05 2011 07:17 GMT
#909
Oh Tester.... What is TSL doing to FD and sSKS? D:!
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
Crebstar
Profile Joined September 2010
United States151 Posts
March 05 2011 07:18 GMT
#910
I was very dissapointed in Tester's play today. Wish there would have been better games. I think sCfOu has some potential. I wouldn't be so quick to count him out. He may have shown real sloppy play, but he is winning consistently.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
March 05 2011 07:18 GMT
#911
Ensnare was also a first gen., as is Anypro. So it's not "everyone" who's fallen.
EpicQQ
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada154 Posts
March 05 2011 07:18 GMT
#912
How long is this intermission for?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
March 05 2011 07:19 GMT
#913
psi storm is definitely the hottest spell in the game.

neural parasite is the dirtiest.
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
March 05 2011 07:19 GMT
#914
On March 05 2011 16:14 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2011 16:10 TheTenthDoc wrote:
The first generation of SC2 pros is definitely past their prime now. Fruitdealer, Tester, etc. just either can't or won't keep up.


A broad generalization with cherry-picked "evidence". Nestea and MC can also be considered "first-generation" considering they were around in the first GSL as well. Also, SanZenith. I don't see them failing. Sure, Nestea got taken out early, but that doesn't mean anything. FD is a a great player who's had some poor showings in the last 2 GSLs, but he's innovative and I'm sure we haven't seen the last of him. Statements like these make them sound like they're getting completely destroyed in their games and make platinum-level mistakes all the time.

That and Fruitdealer always talks about how he never practices lol. If you look at the people who beat all the tier 1 pros, they were all fairly good players, so you have to look at more than just the round they went out on.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-05 07:20:30
March 05 2011 07:20 GMT
#915
On March 05 2011 16:11 Cyanocyst wrote:
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On March 05 2011 16:10 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On March 05 2011 16:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On March 05 2011 16:07 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Trickster is out? What a glorious day.


Why do you hate Tester so much?



...I DON'T KNOW.

His play was actually disgusting. So many more deserving players could have given us better matches.

Group Stages really failed, for this series.

Yep. Trickster is timid and coward when facing T (as well as nonsense build), and when facing Z he always goes for possible cannon openings. It's a shame that he could even stay in code S thanks to the retard Bo1 group stage.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
March 05 2011 07:20 GMT
#916
On March 05 2011 16:12 YoungNeil wrote:
Seriously, what the hell is up with the constant balance whining after every single game?


If you admit that a Pro-Gamer lost because he wasn't good enough, you have to admit that you lose because they aren't good enough. People just want to make excuses for themselves and/or their favorite players, so everyone says their race is UP at Every. Single. Opportunity.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
March 05 2011 07:21 GMT
#917
Ever since Tester and Fruitdealer joined TSL, they haven't been able to play as nearly as good as they did before they were on TSL. lol What happened?
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-05 07:26:04
March 05 2011 07:22 GMT
#918
On March 05 2011 16:21 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Ever since Tester and Fruitdealer joined TSL, they haven't been able to play as nearly as good as they did before they were on TSL. lol What happened?


I thought they explained it already: they couldn't/didn't want to handle the harsh training regimens of oGs.

It's all about training, people. The teams that run a tight ship according to how teams trained in BW are doing well and the teams that play casually aren't.
Mise
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland580 Posts
March 05 2011 07:22 GMT
#919
On March 05 2011 16:21 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Ever since Tester and Fruitdealer joined TSL, they haven't been able to play as nearly as good as they did before they were on TSL. lol What happened?

Better players appeared, which makes them seem weak. Also from what I've heard FD doesn't practice that much.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
March 05 2011 07:22 GMT
#920
On March 05 2011 16:19 GDbushido wrote:
psi storm is definitely the hottest spell in the game.

neural parasite is the dirtiest.

Hot? nah That'd be Yamato, Psi storm is more like electrifying. Dirtiest is Fungal Growth by far
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