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Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 20:51:39
March 01 2011 20:50 GMT
#4641
On March 02 2011 05:30 Shinobi1982 wrote:
No, just Players like HuK and Jinro would qualify.
Basically the ones who have dedicated their lives to SC2 and have the ideal training environment.


And should people that just play for fun and use poor training enviroments be able to win? Why npot use handicap in all tournaments then, so bronze players also can have a chance to win the GSL.

I dont get this :-(
I am not young enough to know everything.
daxile
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada829 Posts
March 01 2011 20:54 GMT
#4642
I don't understand why people are getting butthurt over the comments on PlayXP, I mean god forbid korean people have opinions on others as well. I mean if you look at most of the garbage posted during GSL playdays (especially code A games), a lot of people knock koreans for being gimmicky and relying too much on one-base power.

Also, I'm a bit surprised at results considering Ace isn't particularly known for his high level toss play but it shows how much the skill in Korea has shifted since the last time we saw koreans in the mix of a foreigner filled tournament (DreamHack). I think we should wait til day2 to fully comment on the skill gap, it may be shorter than we think. I for one think if any foreigner is able to compete on the level or above of the koreans in this tournament, SjoW's the man.
to live is to suffer
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
March 01 2011 20:54 GMT
#4643
On March 02 2011 05:50 The KY wrote:
Wait so who advances out of Morrow WhiteRa and Tarson?

Morrow.

On March 02 2011 05:22 Shinobi1982 wrote:
See whats happening there http://challonge.com/fxopenis1


Hmm. That link luckily wasn't about what I thought it was about.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
lolbolt
Profile Joined November 2010
206 Posts
March 01 2011 20:58 GMT
#4644
"Today, the skill gap between Koreans and foreigners was on full display. Not many good games."
i have to agree with you on this, the gap is just widening each day.
theherder2
Profile Joined September 2010
United States538 Posts
March 01 2011 20:59 GMT
#4645
On March 02 2011 05:22 Shinobi1982 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 04:56 FrostShadow wrote:
On March 02 2011 04:52 Shinobi1982 wrote:
Fact is foreigners try to hard to believe their own fairytale about skill balance S-Korea vs Westerners.


It's not a fairy tale. When you see 2 great Koreans (TOP and InCa) at dreamhack perform less than stellar and 2 foreigners in the ro8 in GSL you realize it's not too big a skill difference. sc2 is really random right now, just look at this GSL. I'm sick of these incredibly shortsighted people make giant assumptions based on a tiny bit of data.

And what does it say when countless foreigners who are considered to be "amongst the top" are not managing to qualify for GSL?
Pretty much only tournaments who have a decent balance of Korean and Westerner players is FXOpen.
See whats happening there http://challonge.com/fxopenis1
I'll go even as far as to say this. If Jinro or HuK do not win GSL within 2 seasons no foreigner ever will (unless someone gets the privilege to join a Korean pro team and live/train with them, not to mention the language barrier). It's just a pipe dream to believe that someone who plays SC2 as a hobby can be as good as someone who dedicates his whole life to SC2.


Who are these amongst the top players that haven't managed to qualify? If you can name 5 then I'll give you the argument. Remember, even if they are eliminated Ro1 Code A they still qualified. ST_Ace is showing that the talent level is so high that even qualifying is a feat. He lost both of his GSL matches fairly straight up. Ret won one, Hayder played twice (losing once to BBB). Who are these amongst the top then that haven't qualified? iNcontroL? Spades? Yes they are very very talented but if you're going to compare them with MVP or Nestea they are not the best the foreign world has to offer.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 21:03:38
March 01 2011 21:02 GMT
#4646
Sad to see that there's a total of 3 VODs uploaded for the entire IEM day1 so far. Thats 3 games... and Idra is only playing in one of them.

Guess I won't be watching the IEM again.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
March 01 2011 21:04 GMT
#4647
On March 02 2011 06:02 Zooper31 wrote:
Sad to see that there's a total of 3 VODs uploaded for the entire IEM day1 so far. Thats 3 games... and Idra is only playing in one of them.

Guess I won't be watching the IEM again.


Sounds like 100% of the VODs from the english stream is uploaded then
I am not young enough to know everything.
TaphrWesley
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands64 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 21:11:35
March 01 2011 21:11 GMT
#4648
So not all games were cast? Caus I'm kind of confused; In the first VOD (Ace vs Morrow) they talk about other games of earlier that day?
loklok
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany161 Posts
March 01 2011 21:13 GMT
#4649
So not all games were cast? Caus I'm kind of confused; In the first VOD (Ace vs Morrow) they talk about other games of earlier that day?


nope not all games. You have to watch the replays.
LesPhoques
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada782 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 22:11:50
March 01 2011 21:18 GMT
#4650
Stop crying you fucking nerds, gosh, so many crybabies here.

Enjoy the games, all of them were great.

User was temp banned for this and other posts.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 01 2011 21:20 GMT
#4651
On March 02 2011 05:58 lolbolt wrote:
"Today, the skill gap between Koreans and foreigners was on full display. Not many good games."
i have to agree with you on this, the gap is just widening each day.

Actually I liked the IEM games today more than the GSL games. The last 4 GSL games sucked hard.
Not discountng the skill gap btw, but such a skill gap does not always equal a similar gap in entertainment.
Off-season = best season
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
March 01 2011 21:24 GMT
#4652
congratz to Ace but... this 10-0 is something that he can never get in Korea.
You know what I'm talking about
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
March 01 2011 21:24 GMT
#4653
This has been driving me insane, and search is letting me down. What's a LR thread?
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
.Enigma.
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1461 Posts
March 01 2011 21:25 GMT
#4654
On March 02 2011 06:24 Dalguno wrote:
This has been driving me insane, and search is letting me down. What's a LR thread?


Live Report.
"Jupiters c*ck!" - Quintus Lentulus Batiatus
deerpark87
Profile Joined January 2011
760 Posts
March 01 2011 21:25 GMT
#4655
On March 02 2011 06:24 Dalguno wrote:
This has been driving me insane, and search is letting me down. What's a LR thread?


Live Report Thread
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
March 01 2011 21:25 GMT
#4656
On March 02 2011 06:11 TaphrWesley wrote:
So not all games were cast? Caus I'm kind of confused; In the first VOD (Ace vs Morrow) they talk about other games of earlier that day?

Yes there were no English casts for the first 2 sessions. If they have uploaded the russian and german streams then those games will be in there.

Also a few games were played at the same time and nobody cast the games that the English cast didnt cover in the afternoon.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 21:26:03
March 01 2011 21:25 GMT
#4657
nvm
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 21:28:56
March 01 2011 21:27 GMT
#4658
Will there be VOD's anywhere?
durza
Profile Joined August 2009
United States667 Posts
March 01 2011 21:27 GMT
#4659
Just got home, disappointed to see that foreigners couldn't even take a game off of ace .
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
March 01 2011 21:32 GMT
#4660
On March 02 2011 06:27 durza wrote:
Just got home, disappointed to see that foreigners couldn't even take a game off of ace .

Don't worry, moon is playing tonight, I will be surprised if he qualifies.
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