EPT[March GSL] Code A Ro32 Day 4 - Page 93
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Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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HeroHenry
United States1723 Posts
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Coldviolet
United States110 Posts
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
I guess, go leenock? | ||
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godemperor
Belgium2043 Posts
On March 01 2011 02:58 HeroHenry wrote: Anyone else think that artosis with kelly is so much better than kelly with tasteless? Agreed Kelly and tasteless was soo akward, since they are both play by play casters. Artosilly is much better. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
 . I hope July can banneling bust his way to a GSL title . | ||
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RinconH
United States512 Posts
On March 01 2011 02:58 HeroHenry wrote: Anyone else think that artosis with kelly is so much better than kelly with tasteless? Any cast with Artosis is better than a cast without Artosis. He is the boss of SC2 | ||
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eoLithic
Norway221 Posts
I think we all knew that the days when foreigners were rocking code-S, would come to an end. I certainy think there`s hope, but I feel like people got so hyped and pumped about one or two foreigners shaking stuff up and were really climbing the high horse and actually believed that sc2 would be alot different(korea vs. the rest) from scbw. I only see the gap growing from here on and out tbh. Anyways, ret showed some awesome games, but I do believe slayerS_M was the superior player today, too bad ret had to face him. | ||
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Jayrod
1820 Posts
On March 01 2011 02:19 Fa1nT wrote: In game 1, July lost a ton of drones to MVP's hellions, he was all-in. MVP did not have his base walled off for some reason, so he could not stop the resulting all in. Did July out play him? Yes. But not convincingly. In game 2, July sent the banelings up the ramp literally 5 seconds after MVP opened his wall to build add-ons. His attack would not have worked otherwise, as there was a bunker that he would not have had enough banelings to kill. Did July outplay mvp? Again, yes. But it was also incredibly lucky. I am not sure July will get such easy wins when he runs into MC or MKP or Jinro. I guess I just feel like he adapted well by putting so much pressure on. He effectively kept the army counts of both sides low to prolong the early game offering more chances for his busts to work. If he had failed an all-in or been way behind and just tried to macro up and redrone, he would have surely lost. I feel he wisely extended the early game to keep the numbers/counts low. I think this is a viable play style and not really gimicky. I just hate reading zergs call stuff like this gimicky when they should be analyzing it more and learning from it. Just because a guy didn't drone 6 minutes straight and build no units doesn't mean he's playing zerg incorrectly, being cheesey/gimicky, or getting lucky. Being unpredictable is an area where I think alot of zergs can learn from July. | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On March 01 2011 03:17 eoLithic wrote: I think we all knew that the days when foreigners were rocking code-S, would come to an end. I certainy think there`s hope, but I feel like people got so hyped and pumped about one or two foreigners shaking stuff up and were really climbing the high horse and actually believed that sc2 would be alot different(korea vs. the rest) from scbw. There have never been "days when foreigners rocked code-S". IdrA showed a consistent performance till RO8/RO16 and Jinro made RO4 twice but that's it. In four seasons of GSL only three foreigners made notable appearances and only two of them advanced to the later stages of the tournament. That's hardly "rocking" anything. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
What we saw last night was essentially Ret's worst play against one of the best Terrans of Code A, though even a sick and out of shape Ret can still be a formidable opponent. | ||
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imbs
United Kingdom320 Posts
On March 01 2011 03:25 eviltomahawk wrote: Keep in mind that Ret had recently been very sick and had very little practice for his match, yet throughout the series he was still quite ahead at many points of the game. What we saw last night was essentially Ret's worst play against one of the best Terrans of Code A, though even a sick and out of shape Ret can still be a formidable opponent. regardless of how much practise he had he still completely outplayed the terran in the second game for the vast majority of it. denying every drop, bad turret timing and leaving tanks undefended all contributed to a big lead for ret. he was great in that game and certainly did not deserve to lose it. | ||
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Endorsed
Netherlands1221 Posts
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Poocs
94 Posts
On March 01 2011 02:58 HeroHenry wrote: Anyone else think that artosis with kelly is so much better than kelly with tasteless? Pretty much the same. I still can't understand what she says. Unless I concentrate on that but I'd rather concentrate on the game. Haven't heard her say anything meaningful yet. | ||
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KoshkaTV
United States430 Posts
On March 01 2011 03:12 RinconH wrote: Any cast with Artosis is better than a cast without Artosis. He is the boss of SC2 This is so true.... Artosis for SC2 prez! | ||
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Mephiztopheles1
1124 Posts
1. Three out four foreigners lost, yes. However, there are still two alive as one withdrew. What do these two have in common that the others don't? They don't play zerg. It doesn't matter that at any other skill level you can six pool your way to victory 60% of the time, at GSL/IEM/MLG level of competition you just can't. That means playing standard and at their level, it is not as much as an impossible task to play and win with zerg, is just that while your opponent gets to set up a third so easily in Xel'naga Caverns, a map with a 1-4 score thus far in GSL (Code S+A) in ZvT, Zerg struggles the time of his life just to get a half assed decent spot to pick a fight at. ZvT at this point, as July vs MVP showed is more about your opponent defeating himself and punishing that rather than winning. 2. The zerg representatives are out, and perhaps for a greater good, as now, both Jinro and HuK will get to show how strong foreigners can be when not handicapped by their race. I think we can all agree the former has already proven foreigners can compete and be really, really strong. So I strongly believe that it is not a matter of foreigners sucking ass but a matter of race. Not saying balance, it could be maps, it could be the mentality of the zerg player, don't know. But with Jinro as proof and HuK advancing, I'm not going to fall into the skill gap void just yet. | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On March 01 2011 03:28 imbs wrote: regardless of how much practise he had he still completely outplayed the terran in the second game for the vast majority of it. denying every drop, bad turret timing and leaving tanks undefended all contributed to a big lead for ret. he was great in that game and certainly did not deserve to lose it. Didn't deserve to lose it? He made huge mistakes towards the end that cost him the game. He definitely deserved to lose it even if he was ahead during the beginning. Honestly it's pathetic how everyone on here suck up to foreigners so much. | ||
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Daniello
Poland127 Posts
Pretty much the same. I still can't understand what she says. Unless I concentrate on that but I'd rather concentrate on the game. Haven't heard her say anything meaningful yet. So true m8. | ||
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xZiGGY
United Kingdom801 Posts
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