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This thread is for discussing the games, not crying about balance. Thanks.
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
February 28 2011 11:14 GMT
#1381
On February 28 2011 20:12 schmutttt wrote:
To all the people who say 'Zerg qq Ret just got outplayed', what are you going to say when the top 8 of both Code A and Code S are both Terran? What do you say about the ridiculous tournament results that show Zerg pretty much never win?

This game is broken.


Then stop playing it and quit whining.
RoseTempest
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada196 Posts
February 28 2011 11:14 GMT
#1382
around 75 drones, 6 queens = 87 supply, add on the 4 morphing brood lords = 103 supply in NON-ATTACKING UNITS

4 infestors, ~25 mutas and around 90 zerglings was ret's entire army. 0 banelings.

Terran on the other hand had somewhere around 50-60 scvs, and 140-150 supply in attacking units.

Do the math people, ret just didn't have enough, OR the right kind of units to deal with that.

Curse of the NA macrozerg I guess.
Torumfroll
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
290 Posts
February 28 2011 11:14 GMT
#1383
LEAVE. THE. BALANCE. TALK. OUT. OF. THE. LR. THREAD.

Ret played well. MMA played better. Its as simple as that.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
February 28 2011 11:14 GMT
#1384
Ret suicided all his Mutas to kill one tank, wasn't watching his infestors, and had to fight that army with a million billion speedlings, which is atrocious composition. Half his speedlings were completely across the map, too.

It sucked that the game turned around so fast, but Ret just didn't handle the push at all.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
February 28 2011 11:14 GMT
#1385
Simple answer right now:

Terran & Protoss mid-game to late-game strategies scale into these big maps. Zerg mid-game doesn't and will have to be rebuilt. Zergs will need to develop a new strategy, though a lot of it will need to come from Heart of the Swarm. Or you go Kyrix-style. I think July knew what he was doing to MVP.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
February 28 2011 11:14 GMT
#1386
On February 28 2011 20:12 schmutttt wrote:
To all the people who say 'Zerg qq Ret just got outplayed', what are you going to say when the top 8 of both Code A and Code S are both Terran? What do you say about the ridiculous tournament results that show Zerg pretty much never win?

This game is broken.


Ret got outplayed in the important moments, without even bringing balance into the discussion
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Essentia
Profile Joined July 2010
1150 Posts
February 28 2011 11:14 GMT
#1387
On February 28 2011 20:13 Thurokiir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 20:11 Essentia wrote:
On February 28 2011 20:10 .Theory wrote:
On February 28 2011 20:09 Arceus wrote:
funny how Artosis said that Ret outclasses jjob after a random mutas harrassment and seconds later he lost so badly


Well, Ret was outclassing him in macro. I think he had like 60 food on him or something ridiculous.


I think that we can conclude that macro doesnt win you games in SC2. We need to get over it.


Losing your AOE units against marine/tank w/o killing any of the terrans doodz =/= macro loss.


Do you not understand that banelings become COMPLETELY useless when the terran gets up that many tanks. zerg has to switch to broodlords.
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-28 11:15:15
February 28 2011 11:14 GMT
#1388
Void ray and a phoenix for SangHo, instant infestation pit at lair for jookto
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
johlar
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden165 Posts
February 28 2011 11:15 GMT
#1389
He lost most of his mutas before he attacked with his zerglings WHEN his broods were morphing


Ret dropped the ball
exittlight
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia271 Posts
February 28 2011 11:15 GMT
#1390
"This thread is for discussing the games, not crying about balance. Thanks."
*every post is crying about balance*
If you have no goals in life, you can never be disappointed.
Twitches
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada365 Posts
February 28 2011 11:15 GMT
#1391
On February 28 2011 20:12 Grettin wrote:
So, who won? I couldn't watch the stream and cba reading so many pages.

I'm gonna be sad if Ret lost.


Ret did lose, but they were still really good games.
Gravity is just a feeble plot.
flexy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States182 Posts
February 28 2011 11:15 GMT
#1392
On February 28 2011 20:12 schmutttt wrote:
To all the people who say 'Zerg qq Ret just got outplayed', what are you going to say when the top 8 of both Code A and Code S are both Terran? What do you say about the ridiculous tournament results that show Zerg pretty much never win?

This game is broken.


ALOT of people play terran though so how many are in the top8 doesnt really matter. we've already seen many even matches between top zerg and terran players..
o_o
xmichaels
Profile Joined February 2011
84 Posts
February 28 2011 11:15 GMT
#1393
Terran OP, but ret still got outplayed, regardless.
romanov
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands892 Posts
February 28 2011 11:15 GMT
#1394
Spire would have been better for jookto because there's nothing to defend against muta's
Essentia
Profile Joined July 2010
1150 Posts
February 28 2011 11:15 GMT
#1395
On February 28 2011 20:14 Ribbon wrote:
Ret suicided all his Mutas to kill one tank, wasn't watching his infestors, and had to fight that army with a million billion speedlings, which is atrocious composition. Half his speedlings were completely across the map, too.

It sucked that the game turned around so fast, but Ret just didn't handle the push at all.


Do you understand that Ret was freeing up supply for broods?
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
February 28 2011 11:15 GMT
#1396
On February 28 2011 20:12 schmutttt wrote:
To all the people who say 'Zerg qq Ret just got outplayed', what are you going to say when the top 8 of both Code A and Code S are both Terran? What do you say about the ridiculous tournament results that show Zerg pretty much never win?

This game is broken.


Yeah, cause we've reached the RO8.

Oh wait!

People need to keep their QQ out of these threads..
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
February 28 2011 11:15 GMT
#1397
On February 28 2011 20:13 TreK wrote:
who was that terran on screeen that they talked about ? who was old famous foreigner, i just missed it when i came back


[oops]Lee
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
February 28 2011 11:15 GMT
#1398
On February 28 2011 20:13 KuroN3ko wrote: that way we can once again be a happy and harmonious community. Without all the whining.


When was this ever a happy and harmonious community without whining? -_-
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
February 28 2011 11:15 GMT
#1399
Sangho adding robo now, jookto adding hydra
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Somnolence
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania127 Posts
February 28 2011 11:16 GMT
#1400
This balance QQ is annoying. Even if there are balance issues, this does not justify all the trash-talk about the players. "1a"? ;_;
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