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Axslav versus Select is going to be an amazing game! :D
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Very nice matchups, hoping for an ace match!
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I agree with the predictions. Hopefully it's right. 
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No mirrors plus 2 of the best teams going head to head. I will be waking up early for this one!
Edit: There is a ZvZ thats ok 1 mirror is better than 4
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no incontrol vs select? ;d
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Looks like some good matchups...will definitely watch.
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I thought it was idra playing naniwa, what happened?
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Is there a reason that IdrA isn't in the lineup? seems like he should be higher in the batting order.
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On February 27 2011 16:04 Crushgroove wrote:Is there a reason that IdrA isn't in the lineup? seems like he should be higher in the batting order.
still in Korea=lag
And EG seems to be taking care of themselves lately. Strife and Axslav have been on a tear. Poor InControl is being overshadowed :p
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On February 27 2011 16:15 Ultramus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 16:04 Crushgroove wrote:Is there a reason that IdrA isn't in the lineup? seems like he should be higher in the batting order. still in Korea=lag And EG seems to be taking care of themselves lately. Strife and Axslav have been on a tear. Poor InControl is being overshadowed :p
Probably because he's not very good in comparison to the rest of the people on that team. Only a matter of time before he gets demoted to a "manager" of team EG.
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This is going to be huge!
Sjow vs Inc should go to Dignitas, but isn't a foregone conclusion at all. I'm actually rather interested to see how Geoff plays it, having been vocal about Sjow's scouting habits it'll be interesting if he sets out to exploit it.
We've already seen that StrifeCo's ZvZ is pretty sick (vs MorroW), so I'd anticipate EG picking up a point there despite Killer seeming in good form of late.
SeleCT should be too strong for Axslav, he plays at the most consistently high level outside of Korea imo. Axslav is of course a beast in his own right, but I think he'll come up a little short here.
I would anticipate Nani taking Machine without too many problems, though cross pos Shakuras might let Machine's macro beast get rolling.
Leaning towards a 3-1 result for Dignitas, though it may well go to the ace in which case I'd still expect them to come out on top.
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Pretty sick lineups on both sides here, really looking forward to it.
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On February 27 2011 20:58 Asha` wrote:
Sjow vs Inc should go to Dignitas, but isn't a foregone conclusion at all. I'm actually rather interested to see how Geoff plays it, having been vocal about Sjow's scouting habits it'll be interesting if he sets out to exploit it.
Just a note I think after Assembly Sjow vocally said he was going to start scouting earlier either in general or in a certain matchup. I think it was TvP he lost too. It was in an interview, I'll try find it.
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On February 27 2011 21:45 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 20:58 Asha` wrote:
Sjow vs Inc should go to Dignitas, but isn't a foregone conclusion at all. I'm actually rather interested to see how Geoff plays it, having been vocal about Sjow's scouting habits it'll be interesting if he sets out to exploit it.
Just a note I think after Assembly Sjow vocally said he was going to start scouting earlier either in general or in a certain matchup. I think it was TvP he lost too. It was in an interview, I'll try find it.
I think the problem is that everybody thinks that Sjow loses because of his lack of scouting. I mean he doesn't lose more often to cheese or all-ins then other terrans, who actually scout.
But a BO1 doesn't proof anybody wrong, so it's not as interesting as a BO7 would be.
My predictions:
dSjoW > EGiNcontroL
dKiLLeR > EGStrifeCro
dSeleCT < EGAxslav
dNaniwa > EGMachine
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On February 27 2011 16:20 Xanderk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 16:15 Ultramus wrote:On February 27 2011 16:04 Crushgroove wrote:Is there a reason that IdrA isn't in the lineup? seems like he should be higher in the batting order. still in Korea=lag And EG seems to be taking care of themselves lately. Strife and Axslav have been on a tear. Poor InControl is being overshadowed :p Probably because he's not very good in comparison to the rest of the people on that team. Only a matter of time before he gets demoted to a "manager" of team EG.
I wouldn't count on that, incontrol is clearrly one of EG's top 5 players. Not only does he have one of the best PvZ in NA, he also has a shitload of experiance, game understanding and the dedication to practise.
Your making a spectator pseudo analysis.
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Idra can't play because of iem, at least that's what the dignitas manager said
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I can't see this going in EG's favor. I predict 3:0 or 3:1 with StrifeCro beating Killer.
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On February 27 2011 21:45 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 20:58 Asha` wrote:
Sjow vs Inc should go to Dignitas, but isn't a foregone conclusion at all. I'm actually rather interested to see how Geoff plays it, having been vocal about Sjow's scouting habits it'll be interesting if he sets out to exploit it.
Just a note I think after Assembly Sjow vocally said he was going to start scouting earlier either in general or in a certain matchup. I think it was TvP he lost too. It was in an interview, I'll try find it.
He did, but he hasn't really ammended it yet. Lost to Krolu in the Empire clan war to a proxy void ray in his nat (also lost to bubbles with a similar build though the proxy was slightly more hidden)
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On February 27 2011 16:15 Ultramus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 16:04 Crushgroove wrote:Is there a reason that IdrA isn't in the lineup? seems like he should be higher in the batting order. still in Korea=lag And EG seems to be taking care of themselves lately. Strife and Axslav have been on a tear. Poor InControl is being overshadowed :p
Shouldn't he be in Germany right now with the IEM World finals starting on Monday?
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On February 27 2011 22:17 SayTT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 16:20 Xanderk wrote:On February 27 2011 16:15 Ultramus wrote:On February 27 2011 16:04 Crushgroove wrote:Is there a reason that IdrA isn't in the lineup? seems like he should be higher in the batting order. still in Korea=lag And EG seems to be taking care of themselves lately. Strife and Axslav have been on a tear. Poor InControl is being overshadowed :p Probably because he's not very good in comparison to the rest of the people on that team. Only a matter of time before he gets demoted to a "manager" of team EG. I wouldn't count on that, incontrol is clearrly one of EG's top 5 players. Not only does he have one of the best PvZ in NA, he also has a shitload of experiance, game understanding and the dedication to practise. Your making a spectator pseudo analysis.
Considering there is like 5 players in EG that says alot -_- and like it or not incontrol has had zero notable results since sc2 was released but neways no point getting into the arguement because you get banned from TL for it!
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Would expect Dignitas to comfortably win this. 3-1 imo.
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SjoW vs InControl YESSSS, i actually expect a close match 3-2 Digi
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Awesome lineups, I'm really looking forward to this.
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On February 27 2011 20:58 Asha` wrote:
We've already seen that StrifeCo's ZvZ is pretty sick (vs MorroW), so I'd anticipate EG picking up a point there despite Killer seeming in good form of late.
I don't think MorroW should be held in the highest of standards in ZvZ... Ret v MorroW was actually so painful to watch that I was THOROUGHLY surprised their series went 3:1 and not 3:0.
EDIT: Misspelled "seires"
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On February 28 2011 00:43 ShatterZer0 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 20:58 Asha` wrote:
We've already seen that StrifeCo's ZvZ is pretty sick (vs MorroW), so I'd anticipate EG picking up a point there despite Killer seeming in good form of late. I don't think MorroW should be held in the highest of standards in ZvZ... Ret v MorroW was actually so painful to watch that I was THOROUGHLY surprised their series went 3:1 and not 3:0. EDIT: Misspelled "seires"
He is top 1/2 zerg in europe ofc he should be held in the highest standards of any zvx outside of korea, hes beaten dimaga more times than dimaga has beaten him recently
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On February 28 2011 00:43 ShatterZer0 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 20:58 Asha` wrote:
We've already seen that StrifeCo's ZvZ is pretty sick (vs MorroW), so I'd anticipate EG picking up a point there despite Killer seeming in good form of late. I don't think MorroW should be held in the highest of standards in ZvZ... Ret v MorroW was actually so painful to watch that I was THOROUGHLY surprised their series went 3:1 and not 3:0. EDIT: Misspelled "seires"
You are just clueless.
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Well easy win for dignitas, better player at every spot.
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On February 28 2011 00:56 Technique wrote:
Well easy win for dignitas, better player at every spot.
Strifecro and Axslav have been on all-kill streaks recently though, so you never know!
It's a pity IdrA won't be fielded.
I think Dignitas is going to win 3-1 or 3-2, but I'm rooting for EG 
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On February 28 2011 01:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 00:56 Technique wrote:
Well easy win for dignitas, better player at every spot. Strifecro and Axslav have been on all-kill streaks recently though, so you never know! It's a pity IdrA won't be fielded. I think Dignitas is going to win 3-1 or 3-2, but I'm rooting for EG
It's a pity IdrA won't be fielded.
haha!
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Some interesting matchups in there. Gonna be gg's I think.
On February 27 2011 22:38 shaunnn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 22:17 SayTT wrote:On February 27 2011 16:20 Xanderk wrote:On February 27 2011 16:15 Ultramus wrote:On February 27 2011 16:04 Crushgroove wrote:Is there a reason that IdrA isn't in the lineup? seems like he should be higher in the batting order. still in Korea=lag And EG seems to be taking care of themselves lately. Strife and Axslav have been on a tear. Poor InControl is being overshadowed :p Probably because he's not very good in comparison to the rest of the people on that team. Only a matter of time before he gets demoted to a "manager" of team EG. I wouldn't count on that, incontrol is clearrly one of EG's top 5 players. Not only does he have one of the best PvZ in NA, he also has a shitload of experiance, game understanding and the dedication to practise. Your making a spectator pseudo analysis. Considering there is like 5 players in EG that says alot -_- and like it or not incontrol has had zero notable results since sc2 was released but neways no point getting into the arguement because you get banned from TL for it!
You really shouldn't count out a guy like incontrol. He has so much experience and especially in live events that even though he couldn't possibly keep up the same amount of practice all these other kids get, he'll still be a contender for good spots in mlg's and he came pretty damn close to qualifying to GSL.
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Are these games gonna be played live btw or replays?
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Predictions:
dSjoW <Delta Quadrant> EGiNcontroL
dKiLLeR <Blistering Sands> EGStrifeCro
dSeleCT <Lost Temple> EGAxslav
dNaniwa <Shakuras> EGMachine
Looking forward to this.
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I really can't wait to see these games. Select v Axslav and Naniwa v Machine I think will be my favorites but I don't know. GL EG!!!
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This is quite the anticipated game in awhile. I will watch all the games and hope that it goes on to the ace match! Also good thing there is only one mirror match up! GG's!
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On February 27 2011 16:20 Xanderk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 16:15 Ultramus wrote:On February 27 2011 16:04 Crushgroove wrote:Is there a reason that IdrA isn't in the lineup? seems like he should be higher in the batting order. still in Korea=lag And EG seems to be taking care of themselves lately. Strife and Axslav have been on a tear. Poor InControl is being overshadowed :p Probably because he's not very good in comparison to the rest of the people on that team. Only a matter of time before he gets demoted to a "manager" of team EG.
Every tourney I play in I beat 2-3 EG's lololol
But yeah, probably just a matter of time before I get demoted. Xanderk knows 
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On February 28 2011 02:59 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 16:20 Xanderk wrote:On February 27 2011 16:15 Ultramus wrote:On February 27 2011 16:04 Crushgroove wrote:Is there a reason that IdrA isn't in the lineup? seems like he should be higher in the batting order. still in Korea=lag And EG seems to be taking care of themselves lately. Strife and Axslav have been on a tear. Poor InControl is being overshadowed :p Probably because he's not very good in comparison to the rest of the people on that team. Only a matter of time before he gets demoted to a "manager" of team EG. Every tourney I play in I beat 2-3 EG's lololol But yeah, probably just a matter of time before I get demoted. Xanderk knows
You need to hang around SirScoots less 
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preddies:
SjoW > IncontroL
KilleR > StrifeCro
SeLeCT < Axslav
Naniwa > Machine
3-1 For dignitas
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Only the ACE match is best-of-3, the rest is all BO1
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the dignitas lineup is more stacked. The EG lineup is... lacking strong results
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On February 28 2011 03:34 t3tsubo wrote:the dignitas lineup is more stacked. The EG lineup is... lacking strong results
Dignitas is a retardedly good team. I swear, I cant name ANYONE on that team whos below the elite, maybe except for Killer, but hes actually really good, hes just not as much in the spotlight, so not sure.
No disrespect to EG or anything, but you have SeleCT (consistantly placing high in everything he enters), SjoW (most accomplished player in EU if u look at tourny placements), Naniwa (extremely skilled, was in a bit of a slump, but is now tearing through everybody and always places high) and Killer (their only not "superstar" kind of player imo, but he has lots of good results and always plays well).
So I mean... GL EG!=D
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Total earned prize money in SC2:
iNcontroL ($200) vs SjoW ($22,690)
StrifeCro ($0) vs KiLLeR ($5,535)
Axslav ($310) vs SeleCT ($5,160)
Machine ($2,075) vs Naniwa ($3,025)
Evil Geniuses: $2,585
Dignitas: $36,410
I'd say Dignitas are pretty big favorites to win this.
Source: http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/
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On February 28 2011 03:11 daxile wrote:preddies: SjoW > IncontroL KilleR > StrifeCro SeLeCT < Axslav Naniwa > Machine 3-1 For dignitas
Heh I think the exact same. EG really needs Idra~
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Dignitas will take this 5-0.
Yeah, that's just how they roll.
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On February 28 2011 03:47 Sorkoas wrote:Total earned prize money in SC2: iNcontroL ($200) vs SjoW ($22,690) StrifeCro ($0) vs KiLLeR ($5,535) Axslav ($310) vs SeleCT ($5,160) Machine ($2,075) vs Naniwa ($3,025) Evil Geniuses: $2,585 Dignitas: $36,410 I'd say Dignitas are pretty big favorites to win this. Source: http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/
Yes because equating money earned to current form/skill is exactly right. If anything this is an extremely tight match. Axslav has been on sick form. Strifecro's ZvZ has been awesome and Machine has always been a beast. Sjow has been dipping so don't know but Naniwa is a beast and Select is an immortal being. Killer been quite sick lately too.
I don't think there's a favourite. It's going to be an amazing clan war.
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On February 28 2011 03:51 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 03:47 Sorkoas wrote:Total earned prize money in SC2: iNcontroL ($200) vs SjoW ($22,690) StrifeCro ($0) vs KiLLeR ($5,535) Axslav ($310) vs SeleCT ($5,160) Machine ($2,075) vs Naniwa ($3,025) Evil Geniuses: $2,585 Dignitas: $36,410 I'd say Dignitas are pretty big favorites to win this. Source: http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/ Yes because equating money earned to current form/skill is exactly right. If anything this is an extremely tight match. Axslav has been on sick form. Strifecro's ZvZ has been awesome and Machine has always been a beast. Sjow has been dipping so don't know but Naniwa is a beast and Select is an immortal being. Killer been quite sick lately too. I don't think there's a favourite. It's going to be an amazing clan war.
If you can't use money and tournament winnings as a benchmark, then what can you use?
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On February 28 2011 03:51 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 03:47 Sorkoas wrote:Total earned prize money in SC2: iNcontroL ($200) vs SjoW ($22,690) StrifeCro ($0) vs KiLLeR ($5,535) Axslav ($310) vs SeleCT ($5,160) Machine ($2,075) vs Naniwa ($3,025) Evil Geniuses: $2,585 Dignitas: $36,410 I'd say Dignitas are pretty big favorites to win this. Source: http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/ Yes because equating money earned to current form/skill is exactly right. If anything this is an extremely tight match. Axslav has been on sick form. Strifecro's ZvZ has been awesome and Machine has always been a beast. Sjow has been dipping so don't know but Naniwa is a beast and Select is an immortal being. Killer been quite sick lately too. I don't think there's a favourite. It's going to be an amazing clan war.
Hmm, even though you're right that it may not be an entirely accurate way of measuring skill, it definitely measured success. I found it pretty interesting atleast
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On February 28 2011 03:51 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 03:47 Sorkoas wrote:Total earned prize money in SC2: iNcontroL ($200) vs SjoW ($22,690) StrifeCro ($0) vs KiLLeR ($5,535) Axslav ($310) vs SeleCT ($5,160) Machine ($2,075) vs Naniwa ($3,025) Evil Geniuses: $2,585 Dignitas: $36,410 I'd say Dignitas are pretty big favorites to win this. Source: http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/ Yes because equating money earned to current form/skill is exactly right. If anything this is an extremely tight match. Axslav has been on sick form. Strifecro's ZvZ has been awesome and Machine has always been a beast. Sjow has been dipping so don't know but Naniwa is a beast and Select is an immortal being. Killer been quite sick lately too. I don't think there's a favourite. It's going to be an amazing clan war.
skill kind of equates to money earned.
eg is far from favored here.
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On February 28 2011 03:56 DeMusliM wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 03:51 Numy wrote:On February 28 2011 03:47 Sorkoas wrote:Total earned prize money in SC2: iNcontroL ($200) vs SjoW ($22,690) StrifeCro ($0) vs KiLLeR ($5,535) Axslav ($310) vs SeleCT ($5,160) Machine ($2,075) vs Naniwa ($3,025) Evil Geniuses: $2,585 Dignitas: $36,410 I'd say Dignitas are pretty big favorites to win this. Source: http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/ Yes because equating money earned to current form/skill is exactly right. If anything this is an extremely tight match. Axslav has been on sick form. Strifecro's ZvZ has been awesome and Machine has always been a beast. Sjow has been dipping so don't know but Naniwa is a beast and Select is an immortal being. Killer been quite sick lately too. I don't think there's a favourite. It's going to be an amazing clan war. Hmm, even though you're right that it may not be an entirely accurate way of measuring skill, it definitely measured success. I found it pretty interesting atleast
Oh yea that's perfectly fine. Money can be equated to success. It was interesting. It's just impossible to really equate form going into a match.
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Too bad IdrA's not playing, he would all kill Dignitas lololol.
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huh
just realized it's Incontrol vs Sjow
will Geoff cheese sjow to prove that he needs to scout?
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On February 28 2011 04:04 Redneck! wrote:
Too bad IdrA's not playing, he would all kill Dignitas lololol.
It would be flat out impossible for Idra to do that lololol.
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I was rather hoping for cross pos on this map
Inc going for a proxy stargate at the gold between them, Sjow going 1 1 1
Hilariously Sjow scouts Inc's proxy stargate with his hellion heh
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Did someone message sjow about it, the starport that is, he scouted randomly just driving straight to it:/
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On February 28 2011 04:10 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:04 Redneck! wrote:
Too bad IdrA's not playing, he would all kill Dignitas lololol. It would be flat out impossible for Idra to do that lololol.
It would be very unlikely, but not impossible. Remember that Idra has beaten Clide, Genius, and Nada all in one night.
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Stream lagging quite hard for me, but I'm guessing that Dignitas will take this by either 3-1 or ace match.
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On February 28 2011 04:13 Jyvblamo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:10 Asha` wrote:On February 28 2011 04:04 Redneck! wrote:
Too bad IdrA's not playing, he would all kill Dignitas lololol. It would be flat out impossible for Idra to do that lololol. It would be very unlikely, but not impossible. Remember that Idra has beaten Clide, Genius, and Nada all in one night.
The format of the competition physically prevents all kills
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Not trying to be overly critical, but iNcontroL always seems to do gimmicky builds like this.
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On February 28 2011 04:13 MaRkieMarK wrote:
Stream lagging quite hard for me, I'm guessing that Dignitas will take this by either 3-1 or ace match.
Open the popout player and turn down the resolution to 360p or 480p.
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On February 28 2011 03:55 Tokay wrote:
If you can't use money and tournament winnings as a benchmark, then what can you use?
In order for that to really say something they would have had to have entered in the same tournaments or at least the same amount. Theres a lot more cups in EU for Dignitas to compete in than EG players. Axslav and Sjow recently played a showmatch and it was a close bo7.I wont argue that Dignitas players aren't more accomplished in sc2 BUT its a best of 1 so tournament earnings may not always be a good indicator.
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On February 28 2011 04:10 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:04 Redneck! wrote:
Too bad IdrA's not playing, he would all kill Dignitas lololol. It would be flat out impossible for Idra to do that lololol.
Lol you obviously haven't watched winners league. I've seen far more unlikely all kills go down.
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On February 28 2011 04:11 shaunnn wrote:
Did someone message sjow about it, the starport that is, he scouted randomly just driving straight to it:/
game sense
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On February 28 2011 04:11 shaunnn wrote:
Did someone message sjow about it, the starport that is, he scouted randomly just driving straight to it:/
Doubtful, Sjow has died to so many proxy voidrays recently, and he's got to know that Inc has been one of the more vocal pro's in regards to his lack of scouting getting abused by good players. I think he just was being wary and actually covering himself fully for once.
On February 28 2011 04:15 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:10 Asha` wrote:On February 28 2011 04:04 Redneck! wrote:
Too bad IdrA's not playing, he would all kill Dignitas lololol. It would be flat out impossible for Idra to do that lololol. Lol you obviously haven't watched winners league. I've seen far more unlikely all kills go down.
The format isn't winners league, you play a bo1 and you're done regardless of win/loss, thus an all kill is impossible to achieve ^^
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On February 28 2011 04:14 Jyvblamo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:13 MaRkieMarK wrote:
Stream lagging quite hard for me, I'm guessing that Dignitas will take this by either 3-1 or ace match. Open the popout player and turn down the resolution to 360p or 480p.
Turning down the resolution doesn't help since it's always an issue with JTV, turning the resolution down from 720p to 240p just reduces my stream dl speed from 90 kbps to 30 kbps and it lags just as much but in worse quality.
Go Sjow!
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Who's casting? I can't place the name of this guy! T_T
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On February 28 2011 04:19 Wunder wrote:
Who's casting? I can't place the name of this guy! T_T
It's Sheth =)
Also lol @ his phoenix dying to be reborn joke heh
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On February 28 2011 04:19 Wunder wrote:
Who's casting? I can't place the name of this guy! T_T
Sheth
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If justin.tv fixes it's connectivity problems in europe it is the by far best streaming service, so many cool features. A shame it lags so much atm, but iirc they are aware of the problems and working on it right?
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That was brutal. Well played SjoW.
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On February 28 2011 04:16 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:11 shaunnn wrote:
Did someone message sjow about it, the starport that is, he scouted randomly just driving straight to it:/ Doubtful, Sjow has died to so many proxy voidrays recently, and he's got to know that Inc has been one of the more vocal pro's in regards to his lack of scouting getting abused by good players. I think he just was being wary and actually covering himself fully for once. Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:15 hifriend wrote:On February 28 2011 04:10 Asha` wrote:On February 28 2011 04:04 Redneck! wrote:
Too bad IdrA's not playing, he would all kill Dignitas lololol. It would be flat out impossible for Idra to do that lololol. Lol you obviously haven't watched winners league. I've seen far more unlikely all kills go down. The format isn't winners league, you play a bo1 and you're done regardless of win/loss, thus an all kill is impossible to achieve ^^
Aha that's what you meant. Haha good point.
gg wp sjow
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On February 28 2011 04:14 Jyvblamo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:13 MaRkieMarK wrote:
Stream lagging quite hard for me, I'm guessing that Dignitas will take this by either 3-1 or ace match. Open the popout player and turn down the resolution to 360p or 480p.
Oh, thank you - seems to be working!
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On February 28 2011 04:20 Callous wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:19 Wunder wrote:
Who's casting? I can't place the name of this guy! T_T Sheth
Thanks. No wonder he sounds so familiar.
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Makes me even more sad that SjoW didn't participate in the TSL Qualifier of yesterday ;(.
Great play by him !
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On February 28 2011 04:21 Tsubbi wrote:
If justin.tv fixes it's connectivity problems in europe it is the by far best streaming service, so many cool features. A shame it lags so much atm, but iirc they are aware of the problems and working on it right?
judging by their last post in the day9 switches to justintv thread they think they have fixed it, it seems to be an issue with packetloss/routing
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Inc being scouted by sjow....
HILARIOUS
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On February 28 2011 04:15 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:10 Asha` wrote:On February 28 2011 04:04 Redneck! wrote:
Too bad IdrA's not playing, he would all kill Dignitas lololol. It would be flat out impossible for Idra to do that lololol. Lol you obviously haven't watched winners league. I've seen far more unlikely all kills go down.
xD
ggs, c'mon guys!
EG FIGHTING!!
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Nicely done by Sjow, very one sided game.
EG need Strifeco to pick up a win here or things are looking really rather bad for them
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Well, the stream works fine for me after I lowered my the bit rate.
Really nice solid play by sjow, I like!
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Should be pretty easy for Dignitas. 4-0 or 3-1.
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KiLLeR didn't showup, he had obligations to attends. EG oks the switch for Bischu.
StrifeCro vs. Bischu (Blistering Sands)
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not really sure i understand the thought process on unit switches by incontrol that game:
Void rays - vikings come out,
then collosus when their are already vikings out on the field,
then trying to catch up on air vs air vs a large sum of vikings with phoenix.
(and having to rebuild the stargate to do so also).
I think High templars would have been a much better choice :S
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i dont like iNcontrols transition.. his 1 void rays forces like 5 vikings which is great. but then he tranistions into colossus which are countered by vikings?..
turning the 5 vikings he made from near useless to a brillent move..
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Just tuned in and wanted to mention the quality of the stream is absolutely stunning. It's like I'm just in an obs slot in terms of quality.
Looking forward to a good game hopefully.
edit: They are playing blistering sands 
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On February 28 2011 04:25 DeMusliM wrote:
not really sure i understand the thought process on unit switches by incontrol that game:
Void rays - vikings come out,
then collosus when their are already vikings out on the field,
then trying to catch up on air vs air vs a large sum of vikings with phoenix.
(and having to rebuild the stargate to do so also).
I think High templars would have been a much better choice :S
That's what I thought as well when I saw the Robobay. That seemed pretty weird.
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dignitas CoinToss fighting!!
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On February 28 2011 04:25 DeMusliM wrote:
not really sure i understand the thought process on unit switches by incontrol that game:
Void rays - vikings come out,
then collosus when their are already vikings out on the field,
then trying to catch up on air vs air vs a large sum of vikings with phoenix.
(and having to rebuild the stargate to do so also).
I think High templars would have been a much better choice :S
Well, he's no sanZenith but yeah I agree, those decisions were weird.
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On February 28 2011 00:43 ShatterZer0 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 20:58 Asha` wrote:
We've already seen that StrifeCo's ZvZ is pretty sick (vs MorroW), so I'd anticipate EG picking up a point there despite Killer seeming in good form of late. I don't think MorroW should be held in the highest of standards in ZvZ... Ret v MorroW was actually so painful to watch that I was THOROUGHLY surprised their series went 3:1 and not 3:0. EDIT: Misspelled "seires"
thats bullshit. morrows ZvZ is really good, but ZvZ is alot about luck.
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On February 28 2011 04:25 DeMusliM wrote:
not really sure i understand the thought process on unit switches by incontrol that game:
Void rays - vikings come out,
then collosus when their are already vikings out on the field,
then trying to catch up on air vs air vs a large sum of vikings with phoenix.
(and having to rebuild the stargate to do so also).
I think High templars would have been a much better choice :S
I was wondering about that as well. Another thing I didn't like is that he had no sentries.. guess he didn't have enough gas.
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On February 28 2011 04:25 DeMusliM wrote:
not really sure i understand the thought process on unit switches by incontrol that game:
Void rays - vikings come out,
then collosus when their are already vikings out on the field,
then trying to catch up on air vs air vs a large sum of vikings with phoenix.
(and having to rebuild the stargate to do so also).
I think High templars would have been a much better choice :S
HT's would have took awhile as well tho... terran still would have had mapcontrol with an early 3rd..maybe gate units + immortals would have been best.
terran didnt upgrade tho - -
wtf was up with that ;d
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On February 28 2011 04:14 Hatorade wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 03:55 Tokay wrote:
If you can't use money and tournament winnings as a benchmark, then what can you use?
In order for that to really say something they would have had to have entered in the same tournaments or at least the same amount. Theres a lot more cups in EU for Dignitas to compete in than EG players. Axslav and Sjow recently played a showmatch and it was a close bo7.I wont argue that Dignitas players aren't more accomplished in sc2 BUT its a best of 1 so tournament earnings may not always be a good indicator.
While yes, you're right, still sjow's only appearance in MLG he summed up higher amounts, in 1 tournament that was US based. So using the "more cups" excuse i don't think really counts.
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yes the collo switch was bad.. I was trying to hide it. With his marine heavy comp I would have been pinned for damn near forever vs immortal/ht though I dunno. The opening is kind of a all in... lotsa money went to nothing. I tried to make it interesting after that is all.
DQ is an insane T map.
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On February 28 2011 04:28 FrostyTreats wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:25 DeMusliM wrote:
not really sure i understand the thought process on unit switches by incontrol that game:
Void rays - vikings come out,
then collosus when their are already vikings out on the field,
then trying to catch up on air vs air vs a large sum of vikings with phoenix.
(and having to rebuild the stargate to do so also).
I think High templars would have been a much better choice :S HT's would have took awhile as well tho... terran still would have had mapcontrol with an early 3rd..maybe gate units + immortals would have been best. terran didnt upgrade tho - - wtf was up with that ;d
Seems like a good idea to me to just mass upp bio like mad when Incontrol went from stargate tech to robo tech and a late expo so he couldnt get a big army. Plus simply keep up viking production takes care of the colossi. SjoW only had to make sure he had enough production going to take the big fight.
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This game is funny. All-in all day eyyday.
I think the protoss over-made cannons a bit on the back-door rocks.
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Bischu dies to the all in from StrifeCo lol
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the dude went nexus first lol
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Blistering Sands - aiding zerg all-ins since 2010!
One of the only upsides of the terrible new maps blizzard has added is that Blistering will slowly die away from memory! 
1 - 1!
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On February 28 2011 04:35 arioch wrote:Blistering Sands - aiding zerg all-ins since 2010! One of the only upsides of the terrible new maps blizzard has added is that Blistering will slowly die away from memory! 1 - 1!
Bischu did a build that does not work, so he died
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On February 28 2011 04:35 arioch wrote:Blistering Sands - aiding zerg all-ins since 2010! One of the only upsides of the terrible new maps blizzard has added is that Blistering will slowly die away from memory! 1 - 1!
That loss had nothing to do with the map...
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wp by strife ^^,
Gogogogo axslav!!!!
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Why would a toss go nexus first on blistering sands?
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Any zerg that lets a protoss go nexus first on pretty much every map, especially blistering, is retarded to the max.
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Kind of a silly game, can't wait till GCPL uses the new map pool.
Imo the title match up-coming! EG FIGHTING!
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whats up with that really, nexus first on BS lol
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On February 28 2011 04:36 Nation_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:35 arioch wrote:Blistering Sands - aiding zerg all-ins since 2010! One of the only upsides of the terrible new maps blizzard has added is that Blistering will slowly die away from memory! 1 - 1! That loss had nothing to do with the map...
Actually - if he hadnt had to cannon up the back door then he would have held that easily... obviously it was a bad build choice to nexus first on that map though.
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People are complaining about Strifecro's "all-in"? lol, what did you expect him to do against that build?
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On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol
You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking?
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Naniwa vs Machine. This should be a good game. Hopefully Naniwa will play macro game.
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On February 28 2011 04:36 emperorchampion wrote:
Kind of a silly game, can't wait till GCPL uses the new map pool.
Imo the title match up-coming! EG FIGHTING!
Did they already decide which maps they'll be using?
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lol you can't nexus/forge expo on blistering sands thats just hoping they don't kill you. and you can tell how much they are cannoning each base you have to cannon the backdoor rocks or they can just come in from there, you cant guard the rocks from roaches.
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On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote: You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking?
You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS.
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On February 28 2011 04:38 Swixi wrote:
People are complaining about Strifecro's "all-in"? lol, what did you expect him to do against that build?
Where did you read any complaints?
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Hmm, Machine vs Naniwa first I guess. Stool Zerg fighting!
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On February 28 2011 04:39 StrifeCro wrote:
lol you can't nexus/forge expo on blistering sands thats just hoping they don't kill you. and you can tell how much they are cannoning each base you have to cannon the backdoor rocks or they can just come in from there, you cant guard the rocks from roaches.
Whole of EG is commenting in here. That's quite sweet. Yea was a smart choice by you to roach/ling. :D
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On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS.
Isn't it technically still an all-in..?
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I hope nani one bases and destroys him, fuck macro:D
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except idrA :/
He is probably on a plane atm and thinking of what he is going to do with his 1st finish at IEM
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On February 28 2011 04:41 Sorkoas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS. Isn't it technically still an all-in..?
it's not only technically all-in, it is an all in every way which doesn't mean it's something bad. it's what you get when you nexus first on BS (or try to expend any time in the game)
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I hope Nani can manage to win without having to show anyone his secret builds.
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On February 28 2011 04:41 Sorkoas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS. Isn't it technically still an all-in..?
All in implies it could not work. It's like eating an apple and then someone asking "what if you didn't eat that apple?" But.. he did...
Nexus first on BS beats a REALLY bad Z maybe... strife didn't even execute this strat that well and he still easily rocked it.
Anyways I don't think we need to have 2 pages of discussion on a nexus first on BS. I am very excited for these next 2 games
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On February 28 2011 04:41 Sorkoas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS. Isn't it technically still an all-in..?
So what if it is? What's the point of bringing it up as if it's a bad thing if it's the proper response to a build? That's like posting "this guy went viking against collosus!" Yeah.. and?
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On February 28 2011 04:44 Gunman_csz wrote:except idrA :/ He is probably on a plane atm and thinking of what he is going to do with his 1st finish at IEM
Second place you mean right? MorroW will beat him in the finals for sure ;>
Ontopic: Colossus/voidray-deathball incomming!
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On February 28 2011 04:41 Sorkoas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS. Isn't it technically still an all-in..?
it was a read-reaction type situation, i like to think of an "all-in" as a mindset from the start of the game, this on the other hand was the appropriate reaction to Bischu's risky as hell build.
An all-in suggests you either win or lose from it, on this map and in this game in particular, there wasn't any lose situation so no, it wasn't really an all-in .
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On February 28 2011 04:41 Sorkoas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS. Isn't it technically still an all-in..?
Edit: Ok yeah been answered like 5 times already xD
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On February 28 2011 04:44 Influ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:41 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS. Isn't it technically still an all-in..? it's not only technically all-in, it is an all in every way which doesn't mean it's something bad. it's what you get when you nexus first on BS (or try to expend any time in the game)
I don't think anyone denied that it counters an eco build. However I thought a definition of an all in was that if you fail with your attack you have pretty much lost. Seems like that is usually the case if you cut worker production to rush the guy who is fast expanding. Am I wrong?
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On February 28 2011 04:44 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:41 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS. Isn't it technically still an all-in..? All in implies it could not work. It's like eating an apple and then someone asking "what if you didn't eat that apple?" But.. he did... Nexus first on BS beats a REALLY bad Z maybe... strife didn't even execute this strat that well and he still easily rocked it. Anyways I don't think we need to have 2 pages of discussion on a nexus first on BS. I am very excited for these next 2 games
Implying that Bischu has never practiced this build and basically is a bad player. Cool story, bro.
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On February 28 2011 04:48 Sorkoas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:44 Influ wrote:On February 28 2011 04:41 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS. Isn't it technically still an all-in..? it's not only technically all-in, it is an all in every way which doesn't mean it's something bad. it's what you get when you nexus first on BS (or try to expend any time in the game) I don't think anyone denied that it counters an eco build. However I thought a definition of an all in was that if you fail with your attack you have pretty much lost. Seems like that is usually the case if you cut worker production to rush the guy who is fast expanding. Am I wrong?
No, that's how i define it too
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On February 28 2011 04:48 Sorkoas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:44 Influ wrote:On February 28 2011 04:41 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS. Isn't it technically still an all-in..? it's not only technically all-in, it is an all in every way which doesn't mean it's something bad. it's what you get when you nexus first on BS (or try to expend any time in the game) I don't think anyone denied that it counters an eco build. However I thought a definition of an all in was that if you fail with your attack you have pretty much lost. Seems like that is usually the case if you cut worker production to rush the guy who is fast expanding. Am I wrong?
That's the way I see it. I equate this more to a guy basically drawing dead and you just raising a ton to force him out of the hand. There's no possible way you're gonna lose, and it's just the smart move to go ahead and take it down.
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On February 28 2011 04:49 Sorkoas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:44 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:41 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS. Isn't it technically still an all-in..? All in implies it could not work. It's like eating an apple and then someone asking "what if you didn't eat that apple?" But.. he did... Nexus first on BS beats a REALLY bad Z maybe... strife didn't even execute this strat that well and he still easily rocked it. Anyways I don't think we need to have 2 pages of discussion on a nexus first on BS. I am very excited for these next 2 games Implying that Bischu has never practiced this build and basically is a bad player. Cool story, bro.
He's implying that bischu chose the wrong strat for that map. Most people would agree.
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On February 28 2011 04:49 Sorkoas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:44 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:41 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS. Isn't it technically still an all-in..? All in implies it could not work. It's like eating an apple and then someone asking "what if you didn't eat that apple?" But.. he did... Nexus first on BS beats a REALLY bad Z maybe... strife didn't even execute this strat that well and he still easily rocked it. Anyways I don't think we need to have 2 pages of discussion on a nexus first on BS. I am very excited for these next 2 games Implying that Bischu has never practiced this build and basically is a bad player. Cool story, bro.
This isn't 4chan, stop that.
Machine is way ahead in drone count, hopefully he can get enough units to pull through.
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Nice play by machine.. Looks like it's pretty much over.
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Naniwa way to indecisive, should have just gone for it at some point. Well played by Machine so far! :D
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First time I see a zerg surviving the "Tasteless Hallway of Death" attack on shakuras
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Pretty disappointing decisions from Nani, didn't really commit to defence or attack and got the worse end of things constantly.
On the other hand, really good decisions from Machine
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Naniwas getting totally schooled by machine here... wp Machine!
Cant wait for Axslav vs Select... Axslav has done a fantastic job as EG's Ace recently.
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really solid game by machine, wp by him
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On February 28 2011 04:51 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:49 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:44 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:41 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS. Isn't it technically still an all-in..? All in implies it could not work. It's like eating an apple and then someone asking "what if you didn't eat that apple?" But.. he did... Nexus first on BS beats a REALLY bad Z maybe... strife didn't even execute this strat that well and he still easily rocked it. Anyways I don't think we need to have 2 pages of discussion on a nexus first on BS. I am very excited for these next 2 games Implying that Bischu has never practiced this build and basically is a bad player. Cool story, bro. He's implying that bischu chose the wrong strat for that map. Most people would agree.
Well I can't argue that since I don't play protoss and he did after all lose. However the way he put it was really in the manner of saying that Bischu is bad because he used a build that wouldn't work on this level. Which is implying that he hasn't practiced it. And that's a pretty silly assumption when it's a player of Dignitas we are talking about.
On February 28 2011 04:54 Callous wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:49 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:44 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:41 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS. Isn't it technically still an all-in..? All in implies it could not work. It's like eating an apple and then someone asking "what if you didn't eat that apple?" But.. he did... Nexus first on BS beats a REALLY bad Z maybe... strife didn't even execute this strat that well and he still easily rocked it. Anyways I don't think we need to have 2 pages of discussion on a nexus first on BS. I am very excited for these next 2 games Implying that Bischu has never practiced this build and basically is a bad player. Cool story, bro. This isn't 4chan, stop that.
Thanks for making me aware of that. I will try to express myself in a different way from now on.
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Machine subbed for Idra quite well there
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Well played by Machine. Hope Select wins the next game so we get an ace match.
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Machine was near flawless there.
Really, I think EG is the only team who is not showing good Terran players, but Strife, Axlav and Machine keep surprising me. They are very good.
I wanted to see more of Demuslim (obviously need to wait) and LzGamer, but I will take whatever they give me.
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Congrats to Machine! Glad to see a Zerg win even if it was against a fellow swede
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On February 28 2011 04:54 Callous wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:49 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:44 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:41 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS. Isn't it technically still an all-in..? All in implies it could not work. It's like eating an apple and then someone asking "what if you didn't eat that apple?" But.. he did... Nexus first on BS beats a REALLY bad Z maybe... strife didn't even execute this strat that well and he still easily rocked it. Anyways I don't think we need to have 2 pages of discussion on a nexus first on BS. I am very excited for these next 2 games Implying that Bischu has never practiced this build and basically is a bad player. Cool story, bro. This isn't 4chan, stop that.
Thanks for making me aware of that. I will try to express myself in a different way from now on.[/QUOTE]
Good to know.
Also, rooting for Axslav in this one.
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On February 28 2011 04:48 Sorkoas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:44 Influ wrote:On February 28 2011 04:41 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS. Isn't it technically still an all-in..? it's not only technically all-in, it is an all in every way which doesn't mean it's something bad. it's what you get when you nexus first on BS (or try to expend any time in the game) I don't think anyone denied that it counters an eco build. However I thought a definition of an all in was that if you fail with your attack you have pretty much lost. Seems like that is usually the case if you cut worker production to rush the guy who is fast expanding. Am I wrong?
The defending player can stop the attack but lose enough harvesters to be behind. As soon as the attacker sees that he's killing a lot of harvesters, he has the option to take the econ advantage and move on to the next stage of the game.
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Sheth's improving his casting quite a bit. Between him and Gretorp and Inc these GCPL are some of the best analytical casts around, I really don't miss any of them because I learn so much.
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On February 28 2011 05:04 Liquid`Tyler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 04:48 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:44 Influ wrote:On February 28 2011 04:41 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS. Isn't it technically still an all-in..? it's not only technically all-in, it is an all in every way which doesn't mean it's something bad. it's what you get when you nexus first on BS (or try to expend any time in the game) I don't think anyone denied that it counters an eco build. However I thought a definition of an all in was that if you fail with your attack you have pretty much lost. Seems like that is usually the case if you cut worker production to rush the guy who is fast expanding. Am I wrong? The defending player can stop the attack but lose enough harvesters to be behind. As soon as the attacker sees that he's killing a lot of harvesters, he has the option to take the econ advantage and move on to the next stage of the game.
Well, I get that. But if we are going to use the phrase all in, can't we say that he is betting all he has on doing enough damage that he can either win or at least punish the opponent but if he does fail he has lost the game? It sounds like we are trying to deny the existence of all in strategies completely because we can keep finding arguments like this since we can end up with all kind of crazy scenarios, while the fact is that the attacking player still has to do significant damage to not end up losing the game because of that specific attack he has invested so much in.
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Hmm, I'd be interested in seeing the APMs during these engagements. I wonder if Axslav's low APM can deal with SeleCT's multi-pronged attacks?
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lol @ all those people talking trash about EG ~_~;;
great job EG <3
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Axslav is bossing this up :o, handling SeleCT's harass way better than I expected.
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Wow, intense exchange! I really wonder where this game is going to go? Axslav doing a very good job this game, super impressed!!
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Axlav's looking pretty good.
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Axslav is macroing perfectly.. he's getting more and more ahead every time select drops him
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I don't see SCV's popping up in the production tab very often.
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Whatever it is team eg does in these clan wars, they need to start doing it in individual tournies as well lol.
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Great game this one... Select could be in some trouble!
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Never really seen this kind of air play against terran.
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Axslav is such a monster.
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SeleCT needed to snipe the pylon powering the stargates when he first attacked, that would have delayed axslav SO MUCH
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WHAT EG BEAT DIGNITAS? NO WAY!
LOL I'm looking back at the second page laughing my ass off.
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This means Liquid is 1st place with their game difference right?
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sick game, Axeslav you are awsome
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Yep, Dignitas is definitely gonna win 4-0 or 3-1...
Ha!
Nicely done, EG <3
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Wow, nicely played by Axslav!! ggs
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%), gg's boys ^^ well done laddys!
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Damn, I need to start using voidrays against T!
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Awesome play... good job EG!
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United Arab Emirates492 Posts
Axslav is a monster!! Wc3 players representing!!
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SeleCT just didn't make SCVs. It was unreal. The commentators were wondering how the Protoss was getting ahead after all those drops. SCVs simply didn't pop up in the production tab.
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Gretorp said it best, beautiful game from Axslav.
Impressive series from EG, very very nice. EG FIGHTING!
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Does Axslav play this good in individual tournaments? I can't really seem to remember any notable results from him?
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sick win by EG, I stand corrected!
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Wow, Axslav is crazy. I hope this guy keeps getting better, he could easily be EGs star player, in my opinion.
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wow. I take my words back! Great job EG!
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iNcontroL
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horrible reaction from SeleCT having only one reactor starport after seeing two stargate
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Well that was unexpected. Congratulations EG
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On February 28 2011 05:10 Sorkoas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 05:04 Liquid`Tyler wrote:On February 28 2011 04:48 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:44 Influ wrote:On February 28 2011 04:41 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS. Isn't it technically still an all-in..? it's not only technically all-in, it is an all in every way which doesn't mean it's something bad. it's what you get when you nexus first on BS (or try to expend any time in the game) I don't think anyone denied that it counters an eco build. However I thought a definition of an all in was that if you fail with your attack you have pretty much lost. Seems like that is usually the case if you cut worker production to rush the guy who is fast expanding. Am I wrong? The defending player can stop the attack but lose enough harvesters to be behind. As soon as the attacker sees that he's killing a lot of harvesters, he has the option to take the econ advantage and move on to the next stage of the game. Well, I get that. But if we are going to use the phrase all in, can't we say that he is betting all he has on doing enough damage that he can either win or at least punish the opponent but if he does fail he has lost the game? It sounds like we are trying to deny the existence of all in strategies completely because we can keep finding arguments like this since we can end up with all kind of crazy scenarios, while the fact is that the attacking player still has to do significant damage to not end up losing the game because of that specific attack he has invested so much in.
I'm not sure why ur arguing against ppl who aren't even really disagreeing with you. If u want to get all technical, it was an all-in. But it was in response to an economically greedy build and the all-in was an educated response to punish it. Sure, if it had failed, StrifeCro would be behind but he was obviously pretty confident that it wouldn't fail.
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Well Dignitas should've won this but EG still deserved it. Really well played in the last two games by Machine and Axslav.
On February 28 2011 05:18 blooblooblahblah wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 05:10 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 05:04 Liquid`Tyler wrote:On February 28 2011 04:48 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:44 Influ wrote:On February 28 2011 04:41 Sorkoas wrote:On February 28 2011 04:39 iNcontroL wrote:On February 28 2011 04:38 gaston116 wrote:On February 28 2011 04:34 iNcontroL wrote:
the dude went nexus first lol You saw the other "dude" who went collos against mass viking? You can try and be a bitch if you like.. I was responding to people calling strife's build an all in vs a nexus first on BS. Isn't it technically still an all-in..? it's not only technically all-in, it is an all in every way which doesn't mean it's something bad. it's what you get when you nexus first on BS (or try to expend any time in the game) I don't think anyone denied that it counters an eco build. However I thought a definition of an all in was that if you fail with your attack you have pretty much lost. Seems like that is usually the case if you cut worker production to rush the guy who is fast expanding. Am I wrong? The defending player can stop the attack but lose enough harvesters to be behind. As soon as the attacker sees that he's killing a lot of harvesters, he has the option to take the econ advantage and move on to the next stage of the game. Well, I get that. But if we are going to use the phrase all in, can't we say that he is betting all he has on doing enough damage that he can either win or at least punish the opponent but if he does fail he has lost the game? It sounds like we are trying to deny the existence of all in strategies completely because we can keep finding arguments like this since we can end up with all kind of crazy scenarios, while the fact is that the attacking player still has to do significant damage to not end up losing the game because of that specific attack he has invested so much in. I'm not sure why ur arguing against ppl who aren't even really disagreeing with you. If u want to get all technical, it was an all-in. But it was in response to an economically greedy build and the all-in was an educated response to punish it. Sure, if it had failed, StrifeCro would be behind but he was obviously pretty confident that it wouldn't fail.
Haha I noticed now that I misread one of the first replies saying "it's not only technically all-in", missing the "only" in that sentence. Damn it!
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On February 28 2011 05:18 TicketoHELL wrote:
horrible reaction from SeleCT having only one reactor starport after seeing two stargate
Yeah, but don't stimarines own voidray usually?
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United Kingdom2950 Posts
Congrats EG - pretty sick games from Axslav and Strife
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On February 28 2011 05:19 sarge89 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 05:18 TicketoHELL wrote:
horrible reaction from SeleCT having only one reactor starport after seeing two stargate Yeah, but don't stimarines own voidray usually?
He made too many marauders.
Against mass void ray play you either want to go medivac marines to punish them for not having colossi (medivac marines is incredibly strong vs. gateway units) or a lot of vikings.
It seems as though Select wanted a quick win and so stopped making SCVs at some point. This didn't work out for him as Axslav was able to defend his first double pronged attack losing barely any probes.
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On February 28 2011 05:17 Smurphy wrote:
SeleCT just didn't make SCVs. It was unreal. The commentators were wondering how the Protoss was getting ahead after all those drops. SCVs simply didn't pop up in the production tab.
Thats what I was wondering all the time. Consistently throughout the whole game he was building basically no SCVs. Very strange.
And then many marauder against mass voidray.
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Really well played by Axslav, was rooting for dignitas but well deserved win EG!
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Very entertaining games all around. Well done EG, especially Machine =D
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Axslav is coming close to official baller status.
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Extremely entertaining games, especially to Axslav who I've learned a few things from watching today
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Will there be any vods around? Just missed everything :<
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United Kingdom38255 Posts
Wow, GG's from EG, didn't expect them to pull off the upset
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@Kyuki
You can watch all the previous matches on Gosucoaching as well as vod's so I'm quite sure this will be uploaded as well.
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The predictions are hilarious reading in retrospect, as is usually the case after EG clan wars
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Axslav is on a roll. Nicely played w/ the air :D
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Axslav teamleague king?
unexpected result, strifecro and axslav rly gettin strong lately .
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On February 28 2011 05:26 RaiderRob wrote:
@Kyuki
You can watch all the previous matches on Gosucoaching as well as vod's so I'm quite sure this will be uploaded as well.
Cool
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Axslav and Strifecro are sick, but really Axslav has been like the hottest north american player for a month, he's so sick.
Does this match have any effect on the final standings? Is EG in playoffs now or not?
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Props to machine for winning on Shakuras "victory lane" plateau. Well done indeed.
^ yea i stole that from destiny.
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iNcontroL
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On February 28 2011 05:51 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Axslav and Strifecro are sick, but really Axslav has been like the hottest north american player for a month, he's so sick.
Does this match have any effect on the final standings? Is EG in playoffs now or not?
We were #3 going into this Always going to be in playoffs.
But no we still play dignitas first round
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Man Axslav is such a beast lately. So excited for when Idra gets to US.
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Nice job Machine, Ax, and strife! I'll have to check out the vods!
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On February 28 2011 05:51 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Axslav and Strifecro are sick, but really Axslav has been like the hottest north american player for a month, he's so sick.
Does this match have any effect on the final standings? Is EG in playoffs now or not?
I think if dignitas won, they'd get 1st (6-1), TL 2nd (5-2), fnatic 3rd (5-2, less points), EG 4th (4-3)
With EG winning, it's TL 1st, EG 2nd, dignitas 3rd, fnatic 4th (everyone 5-2, ranking based on points)
So this match had no effect on the playoffs. When fnatic beat root, it guaranteed TL vs fnatic and EG vs dignitas.
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correctamundo!
full playoff info being released next week +D
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iNcontroL
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win/loss is tie breaker #3 afaik so we are #2 Dignitas is #3
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wow super impressive eg crushed dignitas with their best lineup, congrats and wp guys
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On February 28 2011 07:34 iNcontroL wrote:
win/loss is tie breaker #3 afaik so we are #2 Dignitas is #3
Yep you're right, I'll edit my other post
edit: nm you confused me haha. you actually have 1 more point than them. going into this week, they had 7, you had 4. they went -2, you went +2, so now they have 5, you have 6
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Oh shit eg vs dignitas round two probably with idra in the mix. Gonna be exciting as hell!
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On February 28 2011 07:39 TT1 wrote:
wow super impressive eg crushed dignitas with their best lineup, congrats and wp guys
killer wasnt there^^
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did strife get freewin then? or did some1 else play?
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Bischu played instead. Think that's how you spell it.
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damn.. axslav has been tearing shit up lately well played
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