EPTOn February 22 2011 21:05 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
I think they are crap but each to his own...
I think they are crap but each to his own...
That was a pretty shitty pun.
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
That was a pretty shitty pun. | ||
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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
On February 22 2011 21:04 Jyvblamo wrote: Did Zenio ever end up unloading all his lings and banes inside his nydus network? no, it was full of units that he forgot... ive lost games like that actually. | ||
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me_viet
Australia1350 Posts
On February 22 2011 21:05 absalom86 wrote: Ultras are a terrible choice to max out on. Super easily countered unit. haha all zerg units are super easy to counter =]P Great game though. More nydus worms would've done the trick imo. | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
The whole issue was Zenio went ultra tech without forcing even a marginally significant amount of vikings and then stayed on Ultra tech despite it not being optimal for the situation he found himself in. Yes. The tech switch is only devastating if you forced your opponent to tech switch first. No vikings = no benefit to switching to Ultras. Marauders, Marines, Medvacs, No Vikings and huge tank line = no benefit to staying on Ultras. | ||
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brentsen
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
On February 22 2011 21:05 SC2Phoenix wrote: Last I recall banelings have 1 range and Byuns 10+ tank line all have 13 range. Banelings do nothing late game ZvT unless you can fungal his entire army. There was a time when Byun was down to 3/4 tanks. Also if his entire tank line is there then make mutas and crush his production line. Not try to attack head on to a siege line, ultra or no ultra. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
On February 22 2011 21:02 Beider wrote: Actually not so much a win from Byun as Zenio throwing away the game by playing extremely bad. And I don't even like Zenio in the first place but that was just painful to watch. Painful to watch? Perhaps, if you were cheering for Zenio. However, Day9 once said that the best games come from mistakes, and it seemed that the many mistakes from both players led to an extremely tense, back-and-forth match that was dramatic and enjoyable. As awesome as it would be to see both players playing perfectly, I think it is reasonable to settle on them making some mistakes in order for us to get a more epic game. The players may lose, but the audience wins. | ||
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RagsSC
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
On February 22 2011 21:08 brentsen wrote: I don't even want to know how many Ultras died in that game. Had to be at least 50-100 | ||
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Pr0d1gy2k5
Portugal110 Posts
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ZapRoffo
United States5544 Posts
On February 22 2011 21:09 Tachion wrote: So Zenio has to beat Clide twice to advance, and Clide only has to win once? Yup. | ||
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bovi
Japan208 Posts
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Myles
United States5162 Posts
On February 22 2011 21:07 Taf the Ghost wrote: Zenio didn't get the message: if you don't kill with the Ultras, stay on only 4-6 and remax on Banelings. Send Ultras in, banelings behind and get the GG from the slaughter that ensues. I think this is really smart. You don't need to max out on Ultras. Just get a handful to soak up damage. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On February 22 2011 21:09 Kavas wrote: There was a time when Byun was down to 3/4 tanks. Also if his entire tank line is there then make mutas and crush his production line. Not try to attack head on to a siege line, ultra or no ultra. When ultras are fully upgraded, marines only do 3 damage a shot to ultras. They also have 500 HP :| So it takes a hell of a lot from marines to kill one. When combined with fungal, ultras do very well against marines. He really should have had a few banelings in there as well though. | ||
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
On February 22 2011 21:04 Uraeus wrote: Best SC2 game ever imo. Even though Zerg lost, I hope this is the way ZvT is going towards. Infestors are way underused imo. They got countered hard this game, but I guess top Zerg players will find a way to make it work. And it is way more fun to watch than the "standard" ZvT we get some much of. As for this game, I think that a few Nydus Worms instead of Ultras could have changed a lot of things. After all, Nydus canals were used to defend your faraway bases in BW, that should work in SC 2 as well. I don't know,maybe burrow? | ||
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Bawbjohnson
United States174 Posts
On February 22 2011 21:04 Uraeus wrote: Best SC2 game ever imo. Even though Zerg lost, I hope this is the way ZvT is going towards. Infestors are way underused imo. They got countered hard this game, but I guess top Zerg players will find a way to make it work. And it is way more fun to watch than the "standard" ZvT we get some much of. As for this game, I think that a few Nydus Worms instead of Ultras could have changed a lot of things. After all, Nydus canals were used to defend your faraway bases in BW, that should work in SC 2 as well. I think he did have a Nydus at his far away base. I coulda sworn I saw one anyway. | ||
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
On February 22 2011 21:03 Deyster wrote: So why did Zenio abandon Mutalisks completely even after Byun went heavy on marauders? Also there was no vikings on the map at all, why not go back to broodlords. Really, the choice of sticking to ultralisks and fighting the turtling terran head on boggles me. It's hard to get all these units when u have 90 drones. Terran has mules (Byun had like 7-8 orbitals) and only use like 30% of their supply on workers. It's not Zenio's fault that Ultralisks suck. You can't go lings/banelings or roaches vs 3/3 marines and tanks. Also some of you act like Zenio should have dodged the EMPs with his infestors. He tried Broodlords but they're bad on such a big map where terran constantly uses drops. Mutalisks are fine but you can't get too many because the terran just a-moves you with his 3/3 units. It's just very hard for zerg to win in late game vs a good terran. | ||
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Phats
Australia534 Posts
30ish supply of lings in the nydus stung him... especially coulda helped saving the bases at south... broods on the tanks at the middle base that was terrans only base for a long while woulda won the game instantly.. really no balance issue to discuss.. Zenio should have won but didnt play with a clear mind... that is what makes the real pro's pro!! not cracking under pressure. | ||
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