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Please remember that these threads are for talking about the games. People who cannot watch rely on these threads for information. If the thread is diluted with balance/caster/lack of snacks whine, it makes it useless for those who want to read it.

Thanks a lot!
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
February 22 2011 12:12 GMT
#2301
On February 22 2011 21:11 Bawbjohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 21:04 Uraeus wrote:
Best SC2 game ever imo.

Even though Zerg lost, I hope this is the way ZvT is going towards.
Infestors are way underused imo. They got countered hard this game, but I guess top Zerg players will find a way to make it work. And it is way more fun to watch than the "standard" ZvT we get some much of.

As for this game, I think that a few Nydus Worms instead of Ultras could have changed a lot of things. After all, Nydus canals were used to defend your faraway bases in BW, that should work in SC 2 as well.


I think he did have a Nydus as his far away base. I coulda sworn I saw one anyway.


He did.
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ImHuko
Profile Joined December 2010
United States996 Posts
February 22 2011 12:12 GMT
#2302
Wow GomTV really fucked everything up by not replacing Idra. Zenio basically has to win twice to advance, while Clide has to win once because he got defwin from Idra, and Zenio didn't. That is extremely unfair for Zenio.

Also whoever wins Code A, they can pick Idra for their group and automatically advance to Code S.... Idra said he told GSL even before the group picks and they didn't do antyhing about it... very stupid, it compromises the whole tournament.
Panicc
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany163 Posts
February 22 2011 12:12 GMT
#2303
why so long break?
xevis
Profile Joined September 2010
United States218 Posts
February 22 2011 12:12 GMT
#2304
Love these new maps, it makes for some good extended play.
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?
Yaahh
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany151 Posts
February 22 2011 12:12 GMT
#2305
Correct me if im wrong but i cant remember of a lot of big fights hold on creep, right? Maybe one point why ultras were not that good in this game.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
February 22 2011 12:13 GMT
#2306
Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 12:13:24
February 22 2011 12:13 GMT
#2307
Oh my god I just woke up and July you're a fucking hero. xD

I know it's an easy thing to say now, but I had a feeling mvp myth might be busted in this GSL. Didn't expect it to happen so early though.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
February 22 2011 12:13 GMT
#2308
On February 22 2011 21:09 Tachion wrote:
So Zenio has to beat Clide twice to advance, and Clide only has to win once?

yup, Idra gets revenge on Zenio & Clide from across the ocean!
OTL
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
313 Posts
February 22 2011 12:13 GMT
#2309
Crazy long commercial breaks for the GSL the last two days...
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 12:14:06
February 22 2011 12:13 GMT
#2310
Brood Lords would have nullified the preemptive EMPs as well, since the Ghost couldn't run in (gets shot at by a brood lord, tank splash kills ghost immediately).

Considering the SO MANY ULTRAS Zenio threw away there, and the Terran composition, going back to broods seems pretty obvious to me?
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
Ojahh
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Ireland728 Posts
February 22 2011 12:13 GMT
#2311
On February 22 2011 21:02 The Touch wrote:
I feel like I'm watching a completely different game this season. If this is what you guys have been getting from Brood War for a decade then I've really missed out.


you poor guy :D
I recommend you watch a few TSL VODs, but not to many at once, or there might be heart attack by happiness incoming.

God bless GOM for the new maps
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ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 12:14:35
February 22 2011 12:13 GMT
#2312
On February 22 2011 21:12 ImHuko wrote:
Wow GomTV really fucked everything up by not replacing Idra. Zenio basically has to win twice to advance, while Clide has to win once because he got defwin from Idra, and Zenio didn't. That is extremely unfair for Zenio.

Also whoever wins Code A, they can pick Idra for their group and automatically advance to Code S.... Idra said he told GSL even before the group picks and they didn't do antyhing about it... very stupid, it compromises the whole tournament.

Zenio only needed 1 win against Byun. Didn't get it. Now Clide has his chance to get his 1 win, and since Zenio lost, now he needs 2 wins.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
brentsen
Profile Joined November 2010
1252 Posts
February 22 2011 12:14 GMT
#2313
On February 22 2011 21:12 Panicc wrote:
why so long break?

Give Zenio a break, that was hardcore.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 22 2011 12:14 GMT
#2314
On February 22 2011 21:13 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 21:09 Tachion wrote:
So Zenio has to beat Clide twice to advance, and Clide only has to win once?

yup, Idra gets revenge on Zenio & Clide from across the ocean!

He ins't in the USA yet, still in Korea. He is at least for a week still in Korea.
Would be funny if he shows up in the studio.
I had a good night of sleep.
Glimred
Profile Joined October 2010
China888 Posts
February 22 2011 12:14 GMT
#2315
Don't they have a replacement for Artosis? The guy sounds like he'll die live on stream.
Broodie
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada832 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 12:15:51
February 22 2011 12:14 GMT
#2316
Those were probably the sexiest emp's in TvZ I've seen, and I actually LOL'd when the mules dropped then Zerg just rumplefucked Byuns fortress.

and the snipe at the end was a big cherry

Tear for Idra though, I really hope NASL works out Ill support it
SilentLiquid.Broodie - Author of Tango Terminal, Ophilia RE, Cajun Quandary, & The Beneath
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
February 22 2011 12:14 GMT
#2317
On February 22 2011 21:11 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 21:09 Kavas wrote:
On February 22 2011 21:05 SC2Phoenix wrote:
On February 22 2011 21:03 Kavas wrote:
On February 22 2011 21:02 hugman wrote:
On February 22 2011 21:01 Kavas wrote:
Horribly bad game. Zenex with excellent mind games and EMPs but Zenio making mass ultralisk against Marines??????????


Do you know anything about SC2?


Yes, last I recall banelings are way better than ultralisks against marines.
Last I recall banelings have 1 range and Byuns 10+ tank line all have 13 range. Banelings do nothing late game ZvT unless you can fungal his entire army.


There was a time when Byun was down to 3/4 tanks. Also if his entire tank line is there then make mutas and crush his production line. Not try to attack head on to a siege line, ultra or no ultra.

When ultras are fully upgraded, marines only do 3 damage a shot to ultras. They also have 500 HP :| So it takes a hell of a lot from marines to kill one. When combined with fungal, ultras do very well against marines. He really should have had a few banelings in there as well though.


Byun had a hell lot of marines.... he only had like 50 supply of scv and was using mules to supply income.

Ultras are good tanks and but DPS wise they aren't that great.
Bawbjohnson
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States174 Posts
February 22 2011 12:14 GMT
#2318
On February 22 2011 21:12 Yaahh wrote:
Correct me if im wrong but i cant remember of a lot of big fights hold on creep, right? Maybe one point why ultras were not that good in this game.


Creep was spread as far as it could before it would of just been scanned and destroyed imo.
"Rule 32: Enjoy the Little Things"
ImHuko
Profile Joined December 2010
United States996 Posts
February 22 2011 12:15 GMT
#2319
On February 22 2011 21:13 ZapRoffo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 21:12 ImHuko wrote:
Wow GomTV really fucked everything up by not replacing Idra. Zenio basically has to win twice to advance, while Clide has to win once because he got defwin from Idra, and Zenio didn't. That is extremely unfair for Zenio.

Also whoever wins Code A, they can pick Idra for their group and automatically advance to Code S.... Idra said he told GSL even before the group picks and they didn't do antyhing about it... very stupid, it compromises the whole tournament.

Zenio only needed 1 win against Byun. Didn't get it. Now Clide has his chance to get his 1 win.

How is that fair? Clide basically has to win 1 match to advance no matter what happens. Zenio or Byun had to play a minimum of 3 to advance.
Yaahh
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany151 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 12:16:07
February 22 2011 12:15 GMT
#2320
On February 22 2011 21:13 Durp wrote:
Brood Lords would have nullified the preemptive EMPs as well, since the Ghost couldn't run in (gets shot at by a brood lord, tank splash kills ghost immediately).

Considering the SO MANY ULTRAS Zenio threw away there, and the Terran composition, going back to broods seems pretty obvious to me?


Not sure about that. The vikings left, after killing brood lords, killed a few overseers. So more broodlords = more vikings which ends up in killing faster overseers which leeds to madness cloaked ghosts.
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