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Kiyo.
United States2284 Posts
On February 09 2011 22:03 revoN wrote: Even if this Puzzle wins we'll still get only one more game with MVP/Nestea instead of two... If Nuke had won, we'd get at least 6 games total in this series, possibly 7. If Puzzle wins this next one, we still get at least 6 games in this series, possibly 7. Same as above. | ||
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
On February 09 2011 22:03 lolaloc wrote: The OP is doing a pretty bad job at updating. What's the results? OP had to go to work, he made thread cos no one else did. I would have but my net has periods of 1-3 hours of constant dropouts frequently occuring during gsl time :/ | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38255 Posts
On February 09 2011 22:03 revoN wrote: Even if this Puzzle wins we'll still get only one more game with MVP/Nestea instead of two... From Zotac: IMMvp <Metalopolis>NEXByun IMMvp <Xel'Naga Caverns> NEXPuzzle IMLosira <Scrap Station> NEXPuzzle IMYongHwa <Blistering Sands> NEXPuzzle IMYoDa <Delta Quadrant> NEXPuzzle Not that I'm suggesting he's likely to do anything like that again, I'd definitely favour MVP/Nestea to win if he takes down YongHwa (which is certainly not a given) but hey, he's done it before. | ||
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
On February 09 2011 21:59 zimms wrote: I don't get why the Terran would pick Tal'Darim against a Protoss. Because of the wide ramp I guess. But yeah, I think there are maps that are definitly better for the terran. | ||
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bennyaus
Australia1833 Posts
I've never understood this argument. Terran can easily go mech from the start if he wants to. If its good vs protoss tier 3 army, it should be good vs protoss tier 1 army. Immortals beat Mech until you get enough Mech to make their range an issue... I think? | ||
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lachy89
Australia264 Posts
On February 09 2011 22:04 duckland wrote: no MVP no Nestea? :/// come on i need to wait for tomorrow? ;] I'm actually really enjoying the unknown players and some of the new strats that have been brough to the game. Losira on Shakurus was really nice. | ||
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betaV1.25
425 Posts
On February 09 2011 22:03 Armsved wrote: I've never understood this argument. Terran can easily go mech from the start if he wants to. If its good vs protoss tier 3 army, it should be good vs protoss tier 1 army. Problem is mech isnt good vs protoss. Jinro disgree's but overall i feel that immortals counter terran mech so hard that i dont see anyplace myself for mech in tvp. its could ofc be that that i suck in more ways then i can imagine and that Jinro is correct (as he kinda kicked mc's behind with mech) | ||
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Armsved
Denmark642 Posts
On February 09 2011 22:04 TheCrow wrote: I don't know much about the matchup. But didn't Jinro use it pretty well vs MC? He did well vs MC with mech on close position LT which is probably the most optimal scenario for mech. He also beated MC on scrap, but MC did 2 base carrier... soo idk. It just seems to fail more than not and when it succeds its often because terran raped a mineral line with blueflame helions, much like jinro did on LT close. | ||
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nekuodah
England2409 Posts
On February 09 2011 22:07 Armsved wrote: He did well vs MC with mech on close position LT which is probably the most optimal scenario for mech. He also beated MC on scrap, but MC did 2 base carrier... soo idk. It just seems to fail more than not and when it succeds its often because terran raped a mineral line with blueflame helions, much like jinro did on LT close. And blueflame hellion drops should be as much of a part of your mech play as marauder/marine drops as bio. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
IM seems like a highly intelligent and individual team. I like how they seem to work. I get the feeling their coach has a real understanding of the game. | ||
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furymonkey
New Zealand1587 Posts
On February 09 2011 22:07 betaV1.25 wrote: Jinro disgree's but overall i feel that immortals counter terran mech so hard that i dont see anyplace myself for mech in tvp. its could ofc be that that i suck in more ways then i can imagine and that Jinro is correct (as he kinda kicked mc's behind with mech) Not if you use thor's 200KM strike cannon on those immortals  And they pretty good against stalkers too. | ||
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
On February 09 2011 22:03 Armsved wrote: I've never understood this argument. Terran can easily go mech from the start if he wants to. If its good vs protoss tier 3 army, it should be good vs protoss tier 1 army. Problem is mech isnt good vs protoss. I think it's (talking mostly about tanks) far better than MM combo which just melts if P gets critical amount of colossi. As for immortal argument - ghosts+emp should easily take care of them, they also have small range. | ||
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wristuzi
United Kingdom1168 Posts
On February 09 2011 22:07 Armsved wrote: He did well vs MC with mech on close position LT which is probably the most optimal scenario for mech. He also beated MC on scrap, but MC did 2 base carrier... soo idk. It just seems to fail more than not and when it succeds its often because terran raped a mineral line with blueflame helions, much like jinro did on LT close. Strangely enough, Naniwa beat Goody in the a TSL qualifier final where Goody went mech with Colossi and Blink Stalkers, supposedly one of the things that mech is strong against. Then again, it was on LT, so I guess the cliff abusing advantage of both colo and blink stalkers probably outweighed or at least nullified the fact that mech does good damage against them. Come on Yonghwa! | ||
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Krehlmar
Sweden1149 Posts
On February 09 2011 22:07 betaV1.25 wrote: Jinro disgree's but overall i feel that immortals counter terran mech so hard that i dont see anyplace myself for mech in tvp. its could ofc be that that i suck in more ways then i can imagine and that Jinro is correct (as he kinda kicked mc's behind with mech) Hey kids! It's learning time! What is the least uppgraded skill in the entire game? No not observer speed. No not prism speed either. No not terran armour it's... 420MM Cannon for Thors! Go Thors+Mech, 420MM cannon immortals = profit. No seriously it's a mana free ability that instantly grabs hold of a unit and deals shitloads of dammage (was 500 unsure now). Point is, putting up tanks/mech would give the protoss no chance to not engage perfectly cause if he just dodges in his immortals will get grabbed. Not to mention that EMP rapes immortals aswell. Now I'm only masters not a pro gamer so I'm not saying this is always 100% perfect but people really should use the unused abilities more. | ||
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TheCrow
Norway296 Posts
On February 09 2011 22:07 betaV1.25 wrote: Jinro disgree's but overall i feel that immortals counter terran mech so hard that i dont see anyplace myself for mech in tvp. its could ofc be that that i suck in more ways then i can imagine and that Jinro is correct (as he kinda kicked mc's behind with mech) Can't you use strike cannons like Jinro to take out the Immortals? | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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Magnus Strongchest
Australia89 Posts
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Sweden4856 Posts
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furymonkey
New Zealand1587 Posts
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smileyyy
Germany1816 Posts
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