[IEM] European Championship Finals - Kiev, Ukraine - Page 8

On January 18 2011 20:19 eltese wrote:
Yeah will be fun to see if socke and white-ra brings it. Also since Im swedish I really want to see merz and sjow do well, though there are a lot of good terrans there.

Im guessing top 3 will look something like this (and Im probably gonna be totally wrong) :

1. White-Ra
2. Naama
3. SjoW

On January 19 2011 22:06 CryMeAReaper wrote:
guys. you have to understand, that in europe the distribution of good players go like this:

TTTTTTT>PPP>ZZ

for every "rly good" p/z player, i could name 3 terrans, for every "top tier" p/z player i could name 2-3 terrans.

look at all the smaller tournaments and u will see. sure mana/white-ra/socke/dimaga/morrow etc wins alot too, but they are also TOP TOP tier, but theyre still 2-3x as many terrans, although not as many on their lvl. normally 6-7 out of 10 are terrans in euope top10.

i dont know why this is. perhaps the fact that terran was OP for some time, and the fact that most terrans were earlier pros, so they werent just abusers but were good, and then kept playing, idk.

edit: oh yeah and GoOdy will be interesting xD his games always go 25min+ and he never attacks xD when he wins some big battle his standard reponse is always more CC's and factories which i guess is very good and safe tvt, as its easy to lose ur patience and suicide into a well made siege line

On January 19 2011 22:49 Redox wrote:

So basically what you are saying is that the terran players are simply better than the zerg players. Well I am not saying that is no true, but it might also be total bullshit. You just know more top tier terran players because they are more succesful in tournaments, which again could be related to imbalance. There is simple no way to verify that either way.
Therefore one should be cautious with such judgements.

On January 19 2011 22:59 magha wrote:


Hes saying theres not as many good Zergs as there are good Protoss and Terrans in Europe, which is true.

What top Zergs are there in Europe? Now think of all the top Terrans and Protoss and you get the point.

On January 19 2011 23:01 Redox wrote:
If I understand the schedule right, there will be sc2 games going on that will not be casted because of counter strike or other stuff being shown at the same time. Can they not organize a second caster or something to cover these games?
That really annoys me I must say, I dont want my watching of sc2 to be interrupted by games I dont care about.

edit: According to the schedule, first sc2 games will be casted at 17.00 while the games actually begin at 12:00. That cant be right. I really hope there is some other cast that is just not mentioned in the schedule.

We offer a second stream, which shows the StarCraft 2 matches that will not be played on stage -
our commentators Dennis "HasuObs" Schneider and Phil "FiLLy" Klockow will be casting them from Studio 2. Click to see exactly what matches are being broadcasted by the second stream!

On January 19 2011 23:34 Lurxer wrote:
According to the ESL page there will a Stream from Studio2 wich will stream Starcraft matches all day.

On January 19 2011 22:06 CryMeAReaper wrote:
guys. you have to understand, that in europe the distribution of good players go like this:

TTTTTTT>PPP>ZZ

for every "rly good" p/z player, i could name 3 terrans, for every "top tier" p/z player i could name 2-3 terrans.

look at all the smaller tournaments and u will see. sure mana/white-ra/socke/dimaga/morrow etc wins alot too, but they are also TOP TOP tier, but theyre still 2-3x as many terrans, although not as many on their lvl. normally 6-7 out of 10 are terrans in euope top10.

i dont know why this is. perhaps the fact that terran was OP for some time, and the fact that most terrans were earlier pros, so they werent just abusers but were good, and then kept playing, idk.

edit: oh yeah and GoOdy will be interesting xD his games always go 25min+ and he never attacks xD when he wins some big battle his standard reponse is always more CC's and factories which i guess is very good and safe tvt, as its easy to lose ur patience and suicide into a well made siege line

On January 20 2011 00:30 RotterdaM wrote:
Yes that is correct, same goes for Fenix and QXC, I just arrived here in Kiev and must say this netcafe, cyberarena is freaking cool ;D, prolly best netcafe i've visitted and I went to many in my life :D, gonna meet a few players soon and tomorrow it kicks off, gonna be a great event dispite 10 terrans, im sure of that! :p

On January 20 2011 00:53 Geo.Rion wrote:
So please, put this question to yourself? Are players like merz and predy on the same level as Dimaga and Morrow? Are they above the skill level of Madfrog or Lalush? And speaking of them, are they in the same leauge as those couple enumarated, and the others who shoud be there, but i just cant name them, becuase they re simply too insignificant (could have missed 1 or 2 big names, sorry for that)?

On January 20 2011 00:53 Geo.Rion wrote:
Are players like merz and predy on the same level as Dimaga and Morrow? Are they above the skill level of Madfrog or Lalush? And speaking of them, are they in the same leauge as those couple enumarated, and the others who shoud be there, but i just cant name them, becuase they re simply too insignificant (could have missed 1 or 2 big names, sorry for that)?
I for one could name a number of other Zergs who are really skilled such as Mondragon, Deathangel, Bly, Syz, Ciara, Osho, who unfortunately would have to get something like code B.