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[IEM] European Championship Finals - Kiev, Ukraine - Page 7

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Madsquare
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany157 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 16:01:18
January 18 2011 16:00 GMT
#121
You better practise ZvZ!

Oh wait..

seriously though, I enjoy many TvTs a lot. Its so much about positioning and area control.
I do not obey any norms. I redefine standard with every thought I make.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 18 2011 16:11 GMT
#122
On January 18 2011 07:01 Carmac wrote:
To anyone that's unfamiliar with the Intel Extreme Masters:

The European Championship has started a few months ago with 24 players competing in it in an online group stage (before that we had national and international qualification).

There were several Zerg and Protoss players in here, many others have failed to qualify this far:

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/europe_sc2/

This is what a "natural selection" of players throughout the tournament has brought us: 10 Ts and 2 Ps. While we would prefer a more balanced race distribution, those are the best players in the tournament so far. Each of those 12 players has played 5 or more matches to get to the live final.

Like it or not, this reflects the state of the game in Europe over the months that have gone by. We would rather wait for the balance of the game to change than to discriminate against players who have earned their place among the 12 best in the continent fair and square.


The way the race distribution ended up being is pretty sad but I 100% agree with this. This was a good way to do it, it's just that europe has been entirely dominated by terrans, only recently protoss has been doing well too. I'm sure next year with the exact same system the race distribution will be much better.

beep boop
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 16:14:55
January 18 2011 16:13 GMT
#123
Man, I hope you guys like TvT. This Terran-heavy player pool could seriously hamper the popularity of the eventual stream as many people will get tired of the matchup. But as Carmac said, there's nothing they can (or should) do, these are the players that have qualified for the tournament fair and square.


Also, is it true that the Gom people are looking at IEM results to determine some of the GSL Code A invitees? Because that'd would up the ante considerably, even with the big prize pool as-is.


In any case, good luck to all the players! I'll definitely be watching. :D
Socke
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany451 Posts
January 18 2011 19:16 GMT
#124
having kulas and desert instead of jungle shak in the mappool also helped in lowering the z and p numbers for sure
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 19:31:52
January 18 2011 19:31 GMT
#125
Well, seems like Europe's with the times metagame-wise...10 T, 2 P, 0 Z in the tourney .
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
January 18 2011 19:33 GMT
#126
I can only second - GOGOGO WHITE RA
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 19:36:10
January 18 2011 19:35 GMT
#127
On January 19 2011 04:16 Socke wrote:
having kulas and desert instead of jungle shak in the mappool also helped in lowering the z and p numbers for sure

Well isnt desert a much better map for zerg than jungle? I think what played a bigger role was that the first qualification rounds were played before the zerg buff (4 range roach and stuff). But even if played now there probably wouldnt be much more zergs. I could only see Dimaga and Morrow having a chance, others would need a lot of luck.
Off-season = best season
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
January 18 2011 19:57 GMT
#128
On January 17 2011 23:33 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
gl socke and white-ra.


How long till you add socke to TL roster???

On a more serious note, he must surely place at least top 2 since he can only loose in PvP!

Socke fighting!
Socke Fighting!!!!
Saiwa
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany789 Posts
January 18 2011 20:02 GMT
#129
Isn't Sockes best Matachup Terran ? Hope he Seals the Deal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM_P7eLbY48&feature=player_detailpage#t=359s YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DO THIS TO ME CLIDE ! Artosis
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
January 18 2011 20:02 GMT
#130
On January 19 2011 04:57 resilve wrote:


How long till you add socke to TL roster???




haha Liquid'Socke that would be awesome :D
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
January 18 2011 20:08 GMT
#131
On January 19 2011 05:02 Leviance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 04:57 resilve wrote:


How long till you add socke to TL roster???




haha Liquid'Socke that would be awesome :D

TL needs more Terrans !!1 Jinro alone is not enough =).

Also Kas and White-Ra hwaiting. My bet we will see them both in the finals
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
January 18 2011 20:25 GMT
#132
Most of the good Eu players are going to be playing here. Really excited to see this one (tho Whitera is the heavy fav prob).
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
January 18 2011 21:46 GMT
#133
On January 19 2011 05:25 On_Slaught wrote:
Most of the good Eu players are going to be playing here. Really excited to see this one (tho Whitera is the heavy fav prob).


Well at least most of the good EU terrans for sure. No Zerg makes me sad though.
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
Punkstar
Profile Joined July 2010
Slovakia522 Posts
January 18 2011 21:56 GMT
#134
On January 18 2011 21:52 nkr wrote:
Bleh, I for one will not watch this

Same here, way to kill a tourney before it even starts :s
When in doubt, just drone up.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
January 18 2011 22:22 GMT
#135
On January 18 2011 07:01 Carmac wrote:
To anyone that's unfamiliar with the Intel Extreme Masters:

The European Championship has started a few months ago with 24 players competing in it in an online group stage (before that we had national and international qualification).

There were several Zerg and Protoss players in here, many others have failed to qualify this far:

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/europe_sc2/

This is what a "natural selection" of players throughout the tournament has brought us: 10 Ts and 2 Ps. While we would prefer a more balanced race distribution, those are the best players in the tournament so far. Each of those 12 players has played 5 or more matches to get to the live final.

Like it or not, this reflects the state of the game in Europe over the months that have gone by. We would rather wait for the balance of the game to change than to discriminate against players who have earned their place among the 12 best in the continent fair and square.


Quoting so that whiners might see it. :|

I mean it's kinda shitty how it turned out, but it's 100% fair... shit happens.

Go Socke!
Kevmeister @ Dota2
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
January 19 2011 10:33 GMT
#136
Could somebody maybe add this to the calendar? Would be sad, if this event went unnoticed by some because it didn't show up on the right side.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
MarCoon
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany493 Posts
January 19 2011 10:59 GMT
#137
If I'd have to chose a mirror than I'd say TvT is the most exciting one, but I don't think it's the "balance" that matters here but more the maps that people in SC2.

We need to get custom maps into the big leagues to be able to see more of the other races.
~follow me on twitter.com/GGmarCoon
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
January 19 2011 11:16 GMT
#138
No MorroW?
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
January 19 2011 11:18 GMT
#139
On January 19 2011 07:22 FliedLice wrote:
Quoting so that whiners might see it. :|

I mean it's kinda shitty how it turned out, but it's 100% fair... shit happens.

Go Socke!


A tournament with Kulas ravine in the map pool 100% fair? plz!

hopefully they get a better map pool next time! Don't think i'll be watching maybe the finals if WhiteRa makes it
Ingruz
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy380 Posts
January 19 2011 11:26 GMT
#140
lol @ race distribution
My life for Aiur!
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