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On January 11 2011 05:04 cazter wrote:
TLDR Justin.tv rocks and it's unlikely the other streaming sites could have managed the cast at all.
It may rock for Americans but for Europeans it is the worst of the main streaming sites by a large margin. It's pretty much unwatchable for many.
I believe that Ustream managed to provide Dreamhack coverage to almost 30k people at one point with little to no problems so I'm not sure that your assertation of there being no alternatives available is necessarily correct.
I do appreciate that Justin.tv are doing so much to help esports but I would hope that in the future tournament organisers can keep in mind that for certain parts of the world Justin.tv provide an extremely poor service and that, despite what other benefits they may offer, until such issues are resolved in choosing them over other alternatives you may be effectively denying coverage to a significant part of your potential audience.
On a more positive note I would like to say that I did thoroughly enjoy those parts of the tournament I was able to see. The production was top notch, the casting incredible and the games were all of extremely high quality both in terms of skill and in entertainment value. I am currently working my way through the VODs and are awaiting the finals in eager anticipation.
So thank you for putting on such a great show. I hope that your future projects prove to be even more successful.
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That was a great tournament. Great casting - my first time seeing Total Biscuit and that guy is hilarious. Great matches. For the record, I had no problems with skipping/lag watching the live stream, and having the VoDs available is a nice bonus.
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The kiwi vs morrow games were incredibly entertaining, but Kiwi totally blew that series. He got a great economic lead on morrow on Shakuras and Metalopolis and completely squandered it. He didn't do a big mid-game attack, he didn't take a faster 3rd, he just sat there and lost his lead by letting morrow drone to his heart's content.
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One question: Will the replays be available for download?
Some matches were just awesome! I want to rewatch them...
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I would love if we got some kind of official word on when the finals might actually be rescheduled for, even if it was saying that they'd not be for a few more days at least or something. Having enjoyed the tournament so immensely it really would be a shame to miss the climax ><
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The kiwi vs morrow games were incredibly entertaining, but Kiwi totally blew that series. He got a great economic lead on morrow on Shakuras and Metalopolis and completely squandered it. He didn't do a big mid-game attack, he didn't take a faster 3rd, he just sat there and lost his lead by letting morrow drone to his heart's content.
It really seemed like KiwiKaki was just messing around that shakuras game. I mean.. archons, mothership, and zealots???
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On January 11 2011 06:12 Exarl25 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 05:04 cazter wrote:
TLDR Justin.tv rocks and it's unlikely the other streaming sites could have managed the cast at all.
It may rock for Americans but for Europeans it is the worst of the main streaming sites by a large margin. It's pretty much unwatchable for many.I believe that Ustream managed to provide Dreamhack coverage to almost 30k people at one point with little to no problems so I'm not sure that your assertation of there being no alternatives available is necessarily correct. I do appreciate that Justin.tv are doing so much to help esports but I would hope that in the future tournament organisers can keep in mind that for certain parts of the world Justin.tv provide an extremely poor service and that, despite what other benefits they may offer, until such issues are resolved in choosing them over other alternatives you may be effectively denying coverage to a significant part of your potential audience. On a more positive note I would like to say that I did thoroughly enjoy those parts of the tournament I was able to see. The production was top notch, the casting incredible and the games were all of extremely high quality both in terms of skill and in entertainment value. I am currently working my way through the VODs and are awaiting the finals in eager anticipation. So thank you for putting on such a great show. I hope that your future projects prove to be even more successful.
Seriously? I'm in Ireland and Justin comes through very clearly with only a little sporadic lag, and seems the best for streams in general.
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On January 11 2011 08:35 DamnCats wrote:Show nested quote +The kiwi vs morrow games were incredibly entertaining, but Kiwi totally blew that series. He got a great economic lead on morrow on Shakuras and Metalopolis and completely squandered it. He didn't do a big mid-game attack, he didn't take a faster 3rd, he just sat there and lost his lead by letting morrow drone to his heart's content. It really seemed like KiwiKaki was just messing around that shakuras game. I mean.. archons, mothership, and zealots???
It certainly seemed that way, but with all that phoenix harass he had plenty of time to get his 3rd up far sooner while morrow was back defending. It wasn't very well planned at all.
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Are they casting the finals today?
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On January 11 2011 08:57 hifriend wrote:
Are they casting the finals today?
No, I will update the thread when we finalize details.
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I think diggty is the most under appreciated caster. His cast is far better than most of the youtube guys. And he hangs around since BW.
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On January 11 2011 08:35 DamnCats wrote:Show nested quote +The kiwi vs morrow games were incredibly entertaining, but Kiwi totally blew that series. He got a great economic lead on morrow on Shakuras and Metalopolis and completely squandered it. He didn't do a big mid-game attack, he didn't take a faster 3rd, he just sat there and lost his lead by letting morrow drone to his heart's content. It really seemed like KiwiKaki was just messing around that shakuras game. I mean.. archons, mothership, and zealots???
Kiwikaki is an entertainer. He knows how to make epic games even if it's not the best strat to win.
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I can't wait for the finals! Hypehypehypehype
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On January 11 2011 08:36 Turenne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 06:12 Exarl25 wrote:On January 11 2011 05:04 cazter wrote:
TLDR Justin.tv rocks and it's unlikely the other streaming sites could have managed the cast at all.
It may rock for Americans but for Europeans it is the worst of the main streaming sites by a large margin. It's pretty much unwatchable for many.I believe that Ustream managed to provide Dreamhack coverage to almost 30k people at one point with little to no problems so I'm not sure that your assertation of there being no alternatives available is necessarily correct. I do appreciate that Justin.tv are doing so much to help esports but I would hope that in the future tournament organisers can keep in mind that for certain parts of the world Justin.tv provide an extremely poor service and that, despite what other benefits they may offer, until such issues are resolved in choosing them over other alternatives you may be effectively denying coverage to a significant part of your potential audience. On a more positive note I would like to say that I did thoroughly enjoy those parts of the tournament I was able to see. The production was top notch, the casting incredible and the games were all of extremely high quality both in terms of skill and in entertainment value. I am currently working my way through the VODs and are awaiting the finals in eager anticipation. So thank you for putting on such a great show. I hope that your future projects prove to be even more successful. Seriously? I'm in Ireland and Justin comes through very clearly with only a little sporadic lag, and seems the best for streams in general.
Same here from sweden, it did lag now and then but after a refresh it stopped and i was watching in highest quality.
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On January 11 2011 06:12 Cajun2k1 wrote:
I also want to add that the streaming service of Justin.tv is the best out there, I really don't understand why so many people complained about lag. If it lagged for me I refreshed once and it was fixed.
Yeah and the fact that you can pop out the stream, resize however you want, pop out the chat, and even change the stream quality yourself are huge. I wonder how many people complaining about lag tried watching it on Justin.tv's actual web site where you can change the quality down.
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On January 11 2011 21:09 DND_Enkil wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 08:36 Turenne wrote:On January 11 2011 06:12 Exarl25 wrote:On January 11 2011 05:04 cazter wrote:
TLDR Justin.tv rocks and it's unlikely the other streaming sites could have managed the cast at all.
It may rock for Americans but for Europeans it is the worst of the main streaming sites by a large margin. It's pretty much unwatchable for many.I believe that Ustream managed to provide Dreamhack coverage to almost 30k people at one point with little to no problems so I'm not sure that your assertation of there being no alternatives available is necessarily correct. I do appreciate that Justin.tv are doing so much to help esports but I would hope that in the future tournament organisers can keep in mind that for certain parts of the world Justin.tv provide an extremely poor service and that, despite what other benefits they may offer, until such issues are resolved in choosing them over other alternatives you may be effectively denying coverage to a significant part of your potential audience. On a more positive note I would like to say that I did thoroughly enjoy those parts of the tournament I was able to see. The production was top notch, the casting incredible and the games were all of extremely high quality both in terms of skill and in entertainment value. I am currently working my way through the VODs and are awaiting the finals in eager anticipation. So thank you for putting on such a great show. I hope that your future projects prove to be even more successful. Seriously? I'm in Ireland and Justin comes through very clearly with only a little sporadic lag, and seems the best for streams in general. Same here from sweden, it did lag now and then but after a refresh it stopped and i was watching in highest quality.
It was unwatchable for me. It depends on what ISP you have sadly. Have no issues with other streaming services other than Justin.
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On January 12 2011 00:03 Eury wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 21:09 DND_Enkil wrote:On January 11 2011 08:36 Turenne wrote:On January 11 2011 06:12 Exarl25 wrote:On January 11 2011 05:04 cazter wrote:
TLDR Justin.tv rocks and it's unlikely the other streaming sites could have managed the cast at all.
It may rock for Americans but for Europeans it is the worst of the main streaming sites by a large margin. It's pretty much unwatchable for many.I believe that Ustream managed to provide Dreamhack coverage to almost 30k people at one point with little to no problems so I'm not sure that your assertation of there being no alternatives available is necessarily correct. I do appreciate that Justin.tv are doing so much to help esports but I would hope that in the future tournament organisers can keep in mind that for certain parts of the world Justin.tv provide an extremely poor service and that, despite what other benefits they may offer, until such issues are resolved in choosing them over other alternatives you may be effectively denying coverage to a significant part of your potential audience. On a more positive note I would like to say that I did thoroughly enjoy those parts of the tournament I was able to see. The production was top notch, the casting incredible and the games were all of extremely high quality both in terms of skill and in entertainment value. I am currently working my way through the VODs and are awaiting the finals in eager anticipation. So thank you for putting on such a great show. I hope that your future projects prove to be even more successful. Seriously? I'm in Ireland and Justin comes through very clearly with only a little sporadic lag, and seems the best for streams in general. Same here from sweden, it did lag now and then but after a refresh it stopped and i was watching in highest quality. It was unwatchable for me. It depends on what ISP you have sadly. Have no issues with other streaming services other than Justin.
Did you try lowering the quality on Justin.tv?
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Justin.tv may still be uneven for europeans, but it's much better nowadays than it used to be, and in fact I can watch it without no lag in 720p
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On January 12 2011 00:24 CheeseGrater wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2011 00:03 Eury wrote:On January 11 2011 21:09 DND_Enkil wrote:On January 11 2011 08:36 Turenne wrote:On January 11 2011 06:12 Exarl25 wrote:On January 11 2011 05:04 cazter wrote:
TLDR Justin.tv rocks and it's unlikely the other streaming sites could have managed the cast at all.
It may rock for Americans but for Europeans it is the worst of the main streaming sites by a large margin. It's pretty much unwatchable for many.I believe that Ustream managed to provide Dreamhack coverage to almost 30k people at one point with little to no problems so I'm not sure that your assertation of there being no alternatives available is necessarily correct. I do appreciate that Justin.tv are doing so much to help esports but I would hope that in the future tournament organisers can keep in mind that for certain parts of the world Justin.tv provide an extremely poor service and that, despite what other benefits they may offer, until such issues are resolved in choosing them over other alternatives you may be effectively denying coverage to a significant part of your potential audience. On a more positive note I would like to say that I did thoroughly enjoy those parts of the tournament I was able to see. The production was top notch, the casting incredible and the games were all of extremely high quality both in terms of skill and in entertainment value. I am currently working my way through the VODs and are awaiting the finals in eager anticipation. So thank you for putting on such a great show. I hope that your future projects prove to be even more successful. Seriously? I'm in Ireland and Justin comes through very clearly with only a little sporadic lag, and seems the best for streams in general. Same here from sweden, it did lag now and then but after a refresh it stopped and i was watching in highest quality. It was unwatchable for me. It depends on what ISP you have sadly. Have no issues with other streaming services other than Justin. Did you try lowering the quality on Justin.tv?
I watched the slide show in glorious 240p. I will try a VPN next time as apparently Justin's European servers got some serious routing issues with some ISPs.
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