EPTSCReddit Invitational: Pros vs Redditors ft.Day[9] - Page 78
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jargs
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Joedaddy
United States1948 Posts
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mindspike
Canada1902 Posts
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timmyfred
United States302 Posts
On January 10 2011 10:18 Canas wrote: Machine crushes him in the long, macro based games and loses to 3 all ins. Glad the better player (LOL) won! If Mini lost two long, macro based games in a row, why on earth would he try to play Machine in a long, macro game? He wouldn't, so he adapted and took the series. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On January 10 2011 10:16 timmyfred wrote: I'm pretty sure the aim of the game is to win, not to show "skill". Playing to win always returns higher dividends than playing to impress. I think the point he was trying to make was the fact that after losing in relatively "macro" games towards Machine, Minigun just gave up trying to be better at the "macro" portion and just went for a semi-all in strat. Meaning minigun risked alot on luck, and hope that his opponet wouldn't react "correctly" to the build, and if they did, he would 75% lose. Of course it was Machine's fault: He should've seen that coming. For example, during the third game, he had made 4 drones after seeing blink. When you get blink that fast, and already have hydra den, then make hydras. I don't know why he made drones, those 4 hydras could've saved him. That was also a problem in the last game, he made drones just as minigun was pushing out. While I disagree with the methods that Minigun used(myself being a more macro player), and may consider them "cheap", it was Machine's fault that led him to lose. | ||
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HeroHenry
United States1723 Posts
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
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ShallNoiseUpon
United States311 Posts
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FrostShadow
United States335 Posts
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TaKemE
Denmark1045 Posts
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kyla
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
The tournament format, the production, the casting has just been awesome for this tournament so far! Hope we can make something similar happen for TL Looking forward to the finals | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
 definately the reason he will lose.. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
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timmyfred
United States302 Posts
On January 10 2011 10:20 Pandain wrote: I think the point he was trying to make was the fact that after losing in relatively "macro" games towards Machine, Minigun just gave up trying to be better at the "macro" portion and just went for a semi-all in strat. Of course it was Machine's fault: He should've seen that coming. For example, during the third game, he had made 4 drones after seeing blink. When you get blink that fast, and already have hydra den, then make hydras. I don't know why he made drones, those 4 hydras could've saved him. That was also a problem in the last game, he made drones just as minigun was pushing out. While I disagree with the methods that Minigun used(myself being a more macro player), and may consider them "cheap", it was Machine's fault that led him to lose. Of course that was his point, but it was a stupid point. Winning in a method other than a macro game doesn't imply a lack of skill. It implies that he won the game. As I said in my previous point, why on earth would Minigun try to play a macro game after losing two? A win is a win is a win, whether it comes in 4 minutes or in 40. There is no such thing a cheap strategy - only effective and ineffective strategies. In the last three games, Minigun employed an effective one and Machine did not. End of line. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On January 10 2011 10:24 ptbl wrote: Is the tournament offline Nope it's online. | ||
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Consolidate
United States829 Posts
On January 10 2011 10:18 Canas wrote: Machine crushes him in the long, macro based games and loses to 3 all ins. Glad the better player (LOL) won! I'm pretty sure a truly 'better' player needs to be better at all aspects of the game. Minigun pretty much showed that his early game unit control was better than Machine's. It wasn't luck that won Minigun the last three games. Though Machine is perhaps the better late-game player, it doesn't mean that he 'deserves' to win the games he loses in the early stages. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
Then, I wonder why Team Liquid people weren't invited to the tournament. It would of been nice to see them play. TLO and haypro were great yesterday in the pokeridol tour. | ||
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On January 10 2011 10:26 Consolidate wrote: I'm pretty sure a truly 'better' player needs to be better at all aspects of the game. Minigun pretty much showed that his early game unit control was better than Machine's. It wasn't luck that won Minigun the last three games. Though Machine is perhaps the better late-game player, it doesn't mean that he 'deserves' to win the games he loses in the early stages. You are right. Machine fucked up; Minigun adapted beautifully.. Now let's stop feeding the trolls and watch an epic finals series  .. | ||
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{ToT}REME
United States30 Posts
On January 10 2011 10:18 Shika wrote: So excited for the finals. Really like both MorroW and WhiteRa, but in this match i'm rooting for MorroW more. MorroW fighting! How was it an "all-in"? Minigun expoed 2/3 of his wins vs Machine. | ||
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