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On December 18 2010 19:42 andrewwiggin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 19:37 LittleeD wrote:
Excellent tech choice.
Excellent usage of the banshees
Excellent play by Rain.
He id DEFINITELY not a noob (Whoever the idiot who said that was)
And stop calling everything cheese when its just a brilliant tech choice to counter your opponents build I'm the 'idiot' who said he's a noob. And he is. + Show Spoiler +1. Excellent tech choice
UM but he didn't know what MC had. So that was flip of the coin. If MC was on a robo build, it wouldn't have worked, and Rain didn't know either way.
2.Excellent usage of the banshees
In that first main push with all his army units, the banshees were front and centre... ready for stalkers to take them down. The most expensive units, and Rain just let them die. (OH - and he A-moved that attack.. you could tell from the marauders and rines on the side attacking the geyser structure).
3. Excellent play by Rain.
Rain almost lost a game he had to definetely win from the blind build orders of both players. He ALMOST lost.
Stop stop stop just STOP.
You're giving me eye cancer
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On December 18 2010 19:43 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Going into break after every single game is BS, just start the damn games already.
They got sponsors to appease and commercials to play yo.
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god,, they should let me or some other person with taste take over the music,, terrible terrible damage to my ears..
worst part of GSL is the music, all the allining i can stand but this music is awful.
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On December 18 2010 19:43 EpiK-J wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 19:41 dambros wrote:On December 18 2010 19:40 GhoSt[shield] wrote:On December 18 2010 19:39 FliedLice wrote:
why are people so hard on rain?
relax people, seriously We are so hard on him for the same reason we were flamming BitByBit.Prime so hard, he takes out really good Protoss or Zerg players with coin-flip builds, such as 2 proxy barracks at nat on Jungle Basin v Genius. Im more pissed about him taking out nestea with 3 scvs/marine allins... MC vs Nstea would have be way more epic finals. way more epic? Doubt it. As much as I love MC, his PVZ is no way as good as his PVT. He got 2-0 by nestea last gsl....
He lost 2-0 to checkprime after going all-in and failing twice. It shows nothing much about his PvZ.
This season he's shown us his more 'standard' PvZ and it looks decent, though not on the level of his PvT.
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MC is a forcefield beast, so it was kind of smart of rain to disable this tool for MC, good forcefields can always turn the tide.
But Rain really has to think about his PDD placement, he could have saved his banshees with it...
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On December 18 2010 19:43 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 19:41 uHu wrote:
Seriously ... GomTV should provide a playlist with all those kpop songs they're playing (and the other songs as well .. they really have a lot of great music). All the Kpop songs are just what're really popular right now/top of the charts. You could check out the Korean Music discussion in general forums or any kpop news songs and find the same songs. Do you have a link or some hints for google search-words.
I have really no clue, where to look for any kpop discussions (in english).
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Rains micro and multitasking is not at all on the same level as other players who have made it far into the GSL. It's obvious to me that he made it here with a great deal of luck and strategic play.
I also feel that Terran is favored in tournaments where cheese or "strategical" play is more frequent. They may not have an advantage in regular games but I feel that Terran tends to come out on top more often than not when not-so-standard BOs are pitted against each other. Their all-ins are more effective and so are their tech rushes.
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On December 18 2010 19:43 Crywolf wrote:
MC gonna win this. Rain got lucky with the banshee ^^
Lucky? His timing and deceptive build mindf*cked MC. He made his own luck there.
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On December 18 2010 19:43 Fa1nT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 19:42 kzn wrote:On December 18 2010 19:40 DystopiaX wrote:On December 18 2010 19:40 KonohaFlash wrote:On December 18 2010 19:39 FliedLice wrote:
why are people so hard on rain?
relax people, seriously He cheesed his way to the finals, and it's showing that the guy is incapable of lasting without doing sneaky tactics. He did fine playing standard games vs Hongun Thats not exactly hard. With the exception of the Metal game HongUn has almost never displayed particularly amazing long-game ability. So if every player in the world except MC plays bad, why blame Rain? Everyone says MC is jesus basically, so shouldn't him beating people hard not mean anything if it is expected?
I didn't say anything of the sort. HongUn is one of the worst Protoss players who's consistently made it vaguely deep into GSL's, even more so when you look at their long-game abilities in isolation.
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On December 18 2010 19:43 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Woah people are really hating Rain.
Worse, most people accusing him of something are much worse in that regard themselves x)
I guess more or less anyone bitching about him would get crushed by Rain, but hey lets just talk shit and pretend we know everything ..
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On December 18 2010 19:43 HollowLord wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 19:42 hoppipolla wrote:
Come on Rain disregard the haters and stomp MC! Your zealot icon is crying right now.
Always support the underdogs, plus the thought of hundreds of whine threads being made is more appealing than any petty icon.
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What's the name of this song?
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On December 18 2010 19:40 Fiercegore wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 19:39 FliedLice wrote:
why are people so hard on rain?
relax people, seriously This. He's in the finals of the biggest Starcraft 2 tournament in the world. And he's playing against the best protoss in the world. Or at least in the top 2
Because even if he's in the finals he doesn't deserve it.
"Yeah but he won lol" because he did boring as tactics and as IdrA said :
"Even if it wins the game and is a valid tactic for some absurd reason, it's still boring and wothless from a perspective/fan viewpoint and that is detremental to the sport aswell."
Meaning, he kills the sport, you nor anyone here can denay that Rain in the finals has made alot of people and viewers upset and less inclined to enjoy it. Sadly, our nerd rage upset equals less sponsor money equal less awesome e-sport events. Alot of people are just idiot ragers, I'm just sad Rain kills the sport and he knows it... apologising for it as he goes. Smart to win, but soulless.
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On December 18 2010 19:39 mango_destroyer wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 19:38 pyro19 wrote:
Well i"m going to sleep.
I already know MC is going to win this. Rain had a huge advantage there and Somehow almost managed to throw it away. How ? His natural was never under attack. It was just matter of time till MC lost that game.
Well because he had Horrible positioning and Micro in that Attack on MC"s main.
Collosus murdering my marines ? dun worry , I'll just snipe some Pylons.
Don"t be mistaken , that was a complete build order win for Rain .
And to be not called a Rain hater , i have no previous hate towards him , but he has just made so many mistakes it"s getting hard to praise him for the Little things he Does right.
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On December 18 2010 19:43 Gudeldar wrote:
Rain flips a coin and wins it and Terran players everywhere: "OMG SO GOSU!!!!!"
I'm amazed you can fit all the fail in one post. You must be a Tetris master or something.
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On December 18 2010 19:43 vylant wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 19:40 The KY wrote:On December 18 2010 19:39 FliedLice wrote:
why are people so hard on rain?
relax people, seriously I know, right? I like Rain. He cheesed in one series or something and suddenly he's the villain. Seems pretty cool to me, people are overly critical because of their own bias. I completely agree with this, If it wasn't for the long breaks in between games I would completely avoid this thread due to the gross bias and exaggeration that is posted
This! completely this!
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On December 18 2010 19:43 Barrin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 19:43 JoeSchmoe wrote:On December 18 2010 19:42 andrewwiggin wrote:On December 18 2010 19:37 LittleeD wrote:
Excellent tech choice.
Excellent usage of the banshees
Excellent play by Rain.
He id DEFINITELY not a noob (Whoever the idiot who said that was)
And stop calling everything cheese when its just a brilliant tech choice to counter your opponents build I'm the 'idiot' who said he's a noob. And he is. 1. Excellent tech choice UM but he didn't know what MC had. So that was flip of the coin. If MC was on a robo build, it wouldn't have worked, and Rain didn't know either way. 2. Excellent usage of the banshees In that first main push with all his army units, the banshees were front and centre... ready for stalkers to take them down. The most expensive units, and Rain just let them die. (OH - and he A-moved that attack.. you could tell from the marauders and rines on the side attacking the geyser structure). 3. Excellent play by Rain. Rain almost lost a game he had to definetely win from the blind build orders of both players. He ALMOST lost. Rain is a noob. oh god stop posting seriously lol
On December 18 2010 19:43 awha wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 19:42 vict1019 wrote:
champi champi champi champinas .... what song is this? rofl
i fully agree :D
oh and i <3 GSL music
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On December 18 2010 19:42 andrewwiggin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 19:37 LittleeD wrote:
Excellent tech choice.
Excellent usage of the banshees
Excellent play by Rain.
He id DEFINITELY not a noob (Whoever the idiot who said that was)
And stop calling everything cheese when its just a brilliant tech choice to counter your opponents build I'm the 'idiot' who said he's a noob. And he is. 1. Excellent tech choice UM but he didn't know what MC had. So that was flip of the coin. If MC was on a robo build, it wouldn't have worked, and Rain didn't know either way. 2. Excellent usage of the banshees In that first main push with all his army units, the banshees were front and centre... ready for stalkers to take them down. The most expensive units, and Rain just let them die. (OH - and he A-moved that attack.. you could tell from the marauders and rines on the side attacking the geyser structure). 3. Excellent play by Rain. Rain almost lost a game he had to definetely win from the blind build orders of both players. He ALMOST lost. I am a noob.
I agree
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On December 18 2010 19:42 Gudeldar wrote:
That game really shows show much MC outclasses Rain. That was a lot closer and longer game than it should have been once those cloaked banshees showed up and there wasn't even a robo finished.
good point, against any other toss besides perhaps ssks, that woulda been an insta-BO loss.
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On December 18 2010 19:41 FindingPride wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 19:40 Skytalker wrote:
this is actually a win for MC, he got tricked but managed to hold it of very good and boosted his confidence he lost 7 sentries and a shit ton of probes. i dont think he really succeeded in his defense. not that he could have.
well to be fair MC was catched with his pants down and could have gone down much faster, now he put up a good fight and that probably felt very good for him.
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