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On January 16 2011 03:16 Alphaes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 03:11 vrok wrote:On January 16 2011 03:10 Alphaes wrote:On January 16 2011 03:07 syllogism wrote:
I agree that Morrow should get the free win as TLO was already out. This is especially true if there aren't any rules regarding this. That would give an unfair advantage to Morrow in the Loser's Bracket, though. Unfair? If BratOK leaves after winning against TLO (which he did) then obviously the next match should be forfeited in favor of the opponent, aka Morrow. TLO was already eliminated. I don't know, I personally don't think freewins should be awarded unless it's absolutely unavoidable. It may be somewhat unfair to Morrow, but it also is to the players on the other half of the bracket if so. Feels to me this would be the lesser of the evils, since he should be playing against a "weaker" player in the end.
I think the problem is that if TLO were to win the tourny now, he will have been the only one that got the extra opportunity to play after being knocked out. That's why it's unfair.
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On January 16 2011 03:16 vdale wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 03:14 affenjunge wrote:
oh mr. morrow... please dont cry neither your swedish fanboiis. yeah, I don't see how a freewin for morrow is more fair than the current solution.
Because that's how every major sports tournaments are run. You don't take back an eliminated player. Tennis for instance. If someone gives a walkover you don't take in the player that he beat.
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On January 16 2011 03:16 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 03:14 affenjunge wrote:
oh mr. morrow... please dont cry neither your swedish fanboiis. I would say exactly the same it the situation was the opposite and TLO was in Morrows shoes.
cuz TLO would beat the shit out of you and morrow as well!
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Can anybody provide a vlc link for this? Octoshape doesn't work at all for me.
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Morrow you should honestly complain about this more, this is quite unfair
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GG for Darkforce...back on topic lol
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On January 16 2011 03:14 ITSmAnIaC wrote:
Morrow:
Chill bro.....
Quoting this just as a placeholder for everyone saying stuff like that: what the hell is wrong with you? Giving TLO the win goes against EVERY standard forfeiting rule in place in EVERY tournament I know. If someone forfeits then the player/team the forfeiting player is supposed to play against gets the win.
Tennis allows imo for the best comparison. Tennis player A beats tennis player B then injures himself and can't play in the next round. So now the already beaten tennis player B can play in the next round? Just no, that's not the way it works.
I realize the homestory cup is 99% for fun, but come on know, you shouldn't deviate from very standard rules just because of that. Obviously Morrow should get the win, really no argument there.
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On January 16 2011 03:17 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 03:16 Alphaes wrote:On January 16 2011 03:11 vrok wrote:On January 16 2011 03:10 Alphaes wrote:On January 16 2011 03:07 syllogism wrote:
I agree that Morrow should get the free win as TLO was already out. This is especially true if there aren't any rules regarding this. That would give an unfair advantage to Morrow in the Loser's Bracket, though. Unfair? If BratOK leaves after winning against TLO (which he did) then obviously the next match should be forfeited in favor of the opponent, aka Morrow. TLO was already eliminated. I don't know, I personally don't think freewins should be awarded unless it's absolutely unavoidable. It may be somewhat unfair to Morrow, but it also is to the players on the other half of the bracket if so. Feels to me this would be the lesser of the evils, since he should be playing against a "weaker" player in the end. Uh, they just awarded a free win to TLO
True, but it's not quite as free since he actually had to play all 3 games in the end, as opposed to Morrow having to play none at all.
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On January 16 2011 03:14 Leviance wrote:
It's partially Brat_Ok's fault because he said he gives TLO the win istead of just saying he's not playing anymore
So if BratOk had said ''I give my spot to Holgerius'', the admins would have to comply? :D
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On January 16 2011 03:18 affenjunge wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 03:16 nihlon wrote:On January 16 2011 03:14 affenjunge wrote:
oh mr. morrow... please dont cry neither your swedish fanboiis. I would say exactly the same it the situation was the opposite and TLO was in Morrows shoes. cuz TLO would beat the shit out of you and morrow as well!
I think I can take him, he looks kind of skinny.
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awesome play by DarkForcE :D
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On January 16 2011 03:17 FrostShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 03:16 Alphaes wrote:On January 16 2011 03:11 vrok wrote:On January 16 2011 03:10 Alphaes wrote:On January 16 2011 03:07 syllogism wrote:
I agree that Morrow should get the free win as TLO was already out. This is especially true if there aren't any rules regarding this. That would give an unfair advantage to Morrow in the Loser's Bracket, though. Unfair? If BratOK leaves after winning against TLO (which he did) then obviously the next match should be forfeited in favor of the opponent, aka Morrow. TLO was already eliminated. I don't know, I personally don't think freewins should be awarded unless it's absolutely unavoidable. It may be somewhat unfair to Morrow, but it also is to the players on the other half of the bracket if so. Feels to me this would be the lesser of the evils, since he should be playing against a "weaker" player in the end. I think the problem is that if TLO were to win the tourny now, he will have been the only one that got the extra opportunity to play after being knocked out. That's why it's unfair.
And if morrow he wins he had to play one less series which is unfair.
Either way it's fucked so complaining about it seems pointless at best.
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On January 16 2011 03:12 rawe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 03:09 MorroW wrote:
i think i should get a freewin aswell but doesnt change the fact that bratok shouldnt play the tournament if he knew he had to go...
giving tlo a 2nd chanse in LOSER BRACKET is imo pretty silly. i like tlo alot but i think this is pretty silly really Agreed, imagine if he said he could not play right before the game would start, would they put TLO against you in that case?
This!
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On January 16 2011 03:18 affenjunge wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 03:16 nihlon wrote:On January 16 2011 03:14 affenjunge wrote:
oh mr. morrow... please dont cry neither your swedish fanboiis. I would say exactly the same it the situation was the opposite and TLO was in Morrows shoes. cuz TLO would beat the shit out of you and morrow as well!
What the hell, don't you have to be 13 to register here?
Just create a loser's loser's bracket I want to see more Dimaga and this tournament couldn't make less sense as it is.
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On January 16 2011 03:19 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 03:14 Leviance wrote:
It's partially Brat_Ok's fault because he said he gives TLO the win istead of just saying he's not playing anymore So if BratOk had said ''I give my spot to Holgerius'', the admins would have to comply? :D
He should have said "I give my spot to JaeDong" and then flown him in from Korea 
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Well im not happy with that too, but there is no perfect decision imo.
Wonder why BratOk didnt know this before his TLO series.
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On January 16 2011 03:19 Alphaes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 03:17 syllogism wrote:On January 16 2011 03:16 Alphaes wrote:On January 16 2011 03:11 vrok wrote:On January 16 2011 03:10 Alphaes wrote:On January 16 2011 03:07 syllogism wrote:
I agree that Morrow should get the free win as TLO was already out. This is especially true if there aren't any rules regarding this. That would give an unfair advantage to Morrow in the Loser's Bracket, though. Unfair? If BratOK leaves after winning against TLO (which he did) then obviously the next match should be forfeited in favor of the opponent, aka Morrow. TLO was already eliminated. I don't know, I personally don't think freewins should be awarded unless it's absolutely unavoidable. It may be somewhat unfair to Morrow, but it also is to the players on the other half of the bracket if so. Feels to me this would be the lesser of the evils, since he should be playing against a "weaker" player in the end. Uh, they just awarded a free win to TLO True, but it's not quite as free since he actually had to play all 3 games in the end, as opposed to Morrow having to play none at all.
Yes, he did play 3 games, but he lost, that's the point. No matter what happens with other players, TLO is by the rules, out of the tournament after losing once in the winners bracket and once in the losers bracket.
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On January 16 2011 03:20 mierin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 03:19 Holgerius wrote:On January 16 2011 03:14 Leviance wrote:
It's partially Brat_Ok's fault because he said he gives TLO the win istead of just saying he's not playing anymore So if BratOk had said ''I give my spot to Holgerius'', the admins would have to comply? :D He should have said "I give my spot to JaeDong" and then flown him in from Korea
Lol, now i imagine a series of tag-team starcraft tournys, where they pause midgame and switch players ^^
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Sad that they can't postpone so we get BratOk vs Morrow. I was looking forward to that. 
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