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killerkoala
Profile Joined October 2010
518 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-05 02:13:26
November 05 2010 02:10 GMT
#1601
If it's so cheesy, and easy to do, and requires no thought or imagination... why hasn't anyone stopped him yet?

Edit: Should say, I'm a zerg fan at heart. My liquibet wants Terran tomorrow morning, but my heart is pissed at liquibet right now. Lol^^
Panda Bear guy is PISSED
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
November 05 2010 02:11 GMT
#1602
so many retarded people acting like foxer's playstyle is EZ

hes incredibly skilled and the his timing/control/macro is sooo good.

im a huge foxer fan GO FOXER GSL2 CHAMP
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
November 05 2010 02:14 GMT
#1603
Anyone who says Foxer's style is unimaginative and skill less, knows absolutely nothing about StarCraft.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
November 05 2010 02:17 GMT
#1604
On November 05 2010 09:50 Raiznhell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2010 09:33 ShyRamen wrote:
I don't understand why some people are trash talking FoxeR, sayin' he cheeses, he plays gimmicks and so on.. that kid is extremely talented player and took out some of the most amazing pro gamers out there, so just give him respect. I love his aggressive playing style.. He named himself after the emperor and who knows, maybe he will be one in SC2


he practically uses nothing but MMM rally pressure every game... only reason it's entertaining is because alot of things die wether it's his or the other players but i much prefer watching players like NaDa, SlayerSBoxeR, Jinro and Terran TLO who actually use something else besides barracks pressure.

Foxer to me resembles why nobody respects Terran players in sc2. all these cool innovative strategies and tactics that are or were available to terrans are second rate to basic MMM.

Try to use Marines in every single game and see how that works out for you.

Do you know why other Terrans don't use solely marines like Foxer? Because they can't. If it worked, sure as hell they would do the same. What do you think their priority is when participating in such tournament? Pleasing the fans? Trying out new stuffs? Making the game look interesting? Nope, it's the 100 million won grand prize.

The only reason why Foxer's bio works so well is because his micro is freaking sick. In that very aspect I would say he's absolutely better than most of the players out there.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
zekie
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada380 Posts
November 05 2010 03:09 GMT
#1605
omg boxer vs boxer final??? heres hoping!
ZeNd0kUn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States331 Posts
November 05 2010 03:13 GMT
#1606
On November 05 2010 09:50 Raiznhell wrote:

he practically uses nothing but MMM rally pressure every game... only reason it's entertaining is because alot of things die wether it's his or the other players but i much prefer watching players like NaDa, SlayerSBoxeR, Jinro and Terran TLO who actually use something else besides barracks pressure.

Foxer to me resembles why nobody respects Terran players in sc2. all these cool innovative strategies and tactics that are or were available to terrans are second rate to basic MMM.
You totally undervalue the quality and skill that Foxer displays in his so-called MMM rally pressure every game. This isn't a Bronze Noob getting easy wins out of a one dimensional play. I can understand it when ppl want to watch high level macro games with a variety of units and probably 2nd tier and 3rd tier units. But this only happens when 2 player's early game skill are level which moves them both on to the mid game or late game. Foxer is demonstrating a strong early game which so far not even the strongest players of the game have come up with an idea to counter or nullify effectively. And even once they do, I don't think Foxer is a total noob as to be clueless of what other gameplan to devise. The boy has shown great diversity but has to always keep his opponents on their toes with this threat of early Marine Aggression. His Marine Aggression is definitely not all-in since he practically expands during that aggression. To stack him up and label him in the same category as the truly cheesy, one dimensional and gimmicky Terran players is pretty disrespectful and insulting to him. And again, he isn't playing for our entertainment so why should he display fancy midgame strategies when so far no opponent has been able to figure out how to stop his early aggression. It's surprising that some people are hellbent on diversified Macro unit play that they can't appreciate the insane Marine micro and timing precision this player has displayed.
"Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment." - Jesus
Idmaif
Profile Joined September 2010
United States42 Posts
November 05 2010 03:16 GMT
#1607
well I think it's kinda good that foxer is setting this standard... pretty much all the Terran I play now do early bio marine pushes and I can handle it well

the most popular race is always the one owning GSL lol
AAHHH PLAGUUU!!! PLAGUU AAAHH!! PLAGUU!! YA PLAGUGUU!!
koslain
Profile Joined September 2010
United States70 Posts
November 05 2010 03:25 GMT
#1608
I'd be kinda ashamed if someone wanting to be me got farther in a tournament then I did... till maybe the next one. ITR, top 4 2/2 tournaments consistency is beautiful O.O
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
November 05 2010 03:29 GMT
#1609
On November 05 2010 12:16 Idmaif wrote:
well I think it's kinda good that foxer is setting this standard... pretty much all the Terran I play now do early bio marine pushes and I can handle it well

the most popular race is always the one owning GSL lol


Protoss = most popular race
Zerg = least popular race

We don't see protoss owning GSL now do we.
SeaSmoke
Profile Joined July 2010
United States326 Posts
November 05 2010 03:43 GMT
#1610
Did they post the interview on Gom?
Sixes
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1123 Posts
November 05 2010 04:21 GMT
#1611
On November 05 2010 12:29 Entropic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2010 12:16 Idmaif wrote:
well I think it's kinda good that foxer is setting this standard... pretty much all the Terran I play now do early bio marine pushes and I can handle it well

the most popular race is always the one owning GSL lol


Protoss = most popular race
Zerg = least popular race

We don't see protoss owning GSL now do we.


Actually, while Protoss is most popular overall, at a high level (even just high diamond but especially in the pros or top 200 lists) there are more Terran.

As for Foxer's play what makes it amazing is the control of his marines. Marines are not normally that good but when you have such good control that they essentially move and shoot like phoenixes and perfect timing and position they are great. The fact is if he misses a timing or gets hit by a solid round of banelings or tanks, it's over.

Note that we may end up seeing his control of other units as well if an opponent actually resists his early pushes.
theherder2
Profile Joined September 2010
United States538 Posts
November 05 2010 05:04 GMT
#1612
On November 05 2010 07:29 adeezy wrote:
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On November 05 2010 07:22 Moragon wrote:
On November 05 2010 07:12 adeezy wrote:
SlayersBoxeR just needs to change it up and use hellions as an attacking unit to counter these mass marines.


He can try, but no other counters have worked against it so far. We know foxer can micro the hell out of his marines, hellions would probably only be hitting 1-2 at a time.


As far as I can tell no one has really tried to counter it, Hopetorture last night just tried to go along with his usual strategies but he needed to do something different. Even if hellions would only be hitting one at a time, they to avoiding that is not letting the marines get into a concave and attacking them when they are grouped up. an effective hellion hits 2-3 marines especially with blue flames it would be very effective. Since Hellions are all minerals he could just have some siege tanks or banshees to be the support or any other gas heavy unit.


uh. think about your strategy man. remember we are talking about EARLY marine aggression. Okay you can have one factory up, as seen in game 1 of foxer v hopetorture. he got one hellion out. now you're saying get banshees//tanks with the extra gas.. well with what factory? or starport? if you still want hellions that mean you can't have a tank producing at the same time. with a bunker it can hold off the marines for a little while longer but you're still hard pressed to defend well micro'd marines.
ilmman
Profile Joined September 2010
364 Posts
November 05 2010 05:18 GMT
#1613
If foxer can keep up his momentum I believe he can become a big star and earn heaps.. Not to mention he could be a looker and make girls think guys playing starcraft is cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Jiiks
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland487 Posts
November 05 2010 05:58 GMT
#1614
On November 05 2010 12:43 SeaSmoke wrote:
Did they post the interview on Gom?


http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens2/gomcam/1271
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
November 05 2010 06:06 GMT
#1615
On November 05 2010 12:16 Idmaif wrote:
well I think it's kinda good that foxer is setting this standard... pretty much all the Terran I play now do early bio marine pushes and I can handle it well

the most popular race is always the one owning GSL lol


That explains why a Zerg won GSL1?
Ganondorf
Profile Joined April 2010
Italy600 Posts
November 05 2010 06:54 GMT
#1616
Well marine pushes without the necessary micro are bad. Fast teching to Siege tanks/banelings/colossi works.

I so want to be a Foxer fan but he has to change his id first. I'm sure whoever wins the semifinal in a few hours will be trying to find a counter to his marine play.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
November 05 2010 06:59 GMT
#1617
foxer just sorta cheesed :/
savior did nothing wrong
backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-05 07:14:45
November 05 2010 07:11 GMT
#1618
On November 05 2010 14:58 Jiiks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2010 12:43 SeaSmoke wrote:
Did they post the interview on Gom?


http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens2/gomcam/1271


LOL HE LOOKS SO MAD WHEN ARTOSIS SAYS FOXER AKA WHAT EVER YUO WANT LOLOL

my god he looked like he was going to stab artosis in the back LOL!

LOL AUTHORITAH!!
redestiny
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)5 Posts
November 05 2010 07:27 GMT
#1619
Is anyone planning to post a Ro4 Day2 Tread??
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-05 07:45:42
November 05 2010 07:34 GMT
#1620
I don't understand all this hate. Why can't people just appreciate his ridiculous micro control. No control groups daaamn.

I don't understand how balance talk even comes into this. He is taking litterally the most basic building block of a terran army and making effective on its own through apm. I like others like macro games with interesting units and wierd tactics, but Foxer Kyrix was one of the greatest things i've ever seen.

Edit: What entertains me is the possibility that the timer broke the game. The timer is probably helping a ton with Foxer's ridiculous knowledge of timings. (not to say that isn't skilled).
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
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