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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
October 30 2010 23:33 GMT
#421
On October 31 2010 08:27 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:26 Roggay wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:25 tsutter wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:24 Roggay wrote:
Why are day9 and DJwheat praising those games so much, they may be fun to watch, but they are NOT the games of the century. C'mon they are playing so badly.

because a commentator cant just say 'holy shit these guys are awful' when they are probably getting paid to cast?


Yes I thought that too, but... they are praising them too much even so. Wish Artosis was casting that, he would not hesitate to say what has to be said.


LOL I can't imagine Artosis casting that


I would pay money for an IdrA/Artosis dual cast of these games.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
October 30 2010 23:33 GMT
#422
Internet dropped for most of this tournament and now tuning in to this TvT. Wow, quite a contrast after having solely watched GSL for a while.

On another note, the games are still surprisingly entertaining.
starcraft2leverage
Profile Joined October 2010
United States207 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 23:35:14
October 30 2010 23:33 GMT
#423
On October 31 2010 08:24 Roggay wrote:
The trash talk in this thread however is quite a bit over the top considering that most people replying couldn't take a game off any of these players (including TorcH, who apparently "plays like a Bronze leaguer").



This x1000. Both players made big mistakes, but I'd like to see the people calling this bronze level play make the divorced tactical decision under that much pressure.

Edit: Torch's late game is pretty weak though.
Skuller
Profile Joined September 2010
United States197 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 23:37:03
October 30 2010 23:33 GMT
#424
I didn't mean to "trash talk", but long games often are indicators of parity in level of play during the game. I think the underlying theme of the posts in this thread regarding g3 between torch and lzgamer is finding where that level of play is.

Edit:
This is also the first time I've seen torch play. So take my comments with a grain of salt.
starcraft2leverage
Profile Joined October 2010
United States207 Posts
October 30 2010 23:37 GMT
#425
Wow LZ suiciding into two entrenched tank positions >.>
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
October 30 2010 23:38 GMT
#426
On October 31 2010 08:33 starcraft2leverage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:24 Roggay wrote:
The trash talk in this thread however is quite a bit over the top considering that most people replying couldn't take a game off any of these players (including TorcH, who apparently "plays like a Bronze leaguer").



This x1000. Both players made big mistakes, but I'd like to see the people calling this bronze level play make the divorced tactical decision under that much pressure.

Edit: Torch's late game is pretty weak though.


This is by far the dumbest argument that continues to be used for some reason. You do not need to be a top player in order to criticize someone. You don't need to be a chef in order to criticize someone's cooking. I don't need to be top diamond to point out very sloppy play
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
ThePowerHour
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States834 Posts
October 30 2010 23:38 GMT
#427
On October 31 2010 08:37 starcraft2leverage wrote:
Wow LZ suiciding into two entrenched tank positions >.>

And then Torch forgetting to siege and getting torn through. That's following up an advantage with a blunder.
Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
October 30 2010 23:38 GMT
#428
how does torch have so much money when he only has like 20 scvs :3
~o~ I have returned
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
October 30 2010 23:39 GMT
#429
On October 31 2010 08:33 starcraft2leverage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:24 Roggay wrote:
The trash talk in this thread however is quite a bit over the top considering that most people replying couldn't take a game off any of these players (including TorcH, who apparently "plays like a Bronze leaguer").



This x1000. Both players made big mistakes, but I'd like to see the people calling this bronze level play make the divorced tactical decision under that much pressure.

Edit: Torch's late game is pretty weak though.


Just because some people in this thread can't do better, it doesn't make them wrong.

It is painfully obvious that the mistakes in these games are extremely bad and you don't have to be good to know that, and to contend you must be is both a fallacy and plain wrong.
starcraft2leverage
Profile Joined October 2010
United States207 Posts
October 30 2010 23:39 GMT
#430
On October 31 2010 08:38 javy925 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:33 starcraft2leverage wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:24 Roggay wrote:
The trash talk in this thread however is quite a bit over the top considering that most people replying couldn't take a game off any of these players (including TorcH, who apparently "plays like a Bronze leaguer").



This x1000. Both players made big mistakes, but I'd like to see the people calling this bronze level play make the divorced tactical decision under that much pressure.

Edit: Torch's late game is pretty weak though.


This is by far the dumbest argument that continues to be used for some reason. You do not need to be a top player in order to criticize someone. You don't need to be a chef in order to criticize someone's cooking. I don't need to be top diamond to point out very sloppy play


Right, but there is a difference between critizing top level play, and identifying TOP LEVEL play as BRONZE.
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
October 30 2010 23:41 GMT
#431
nice, home in time for a zvp
Team Liquid
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
October 30 2010 23:41 GMT
#432
On October 31 2010 08:39 starcraft2leverage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:38 javy925 wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:33 starcraft2leverage wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:24 Roggay wrote:
The trash talk in this thread however is quite a bit over the top considering that most people replying couldn't take a game off any of these players (including TorcH, who apparently "plays like a Bronze leaguer").



This x1000. Both players made big mistakes, but I'd like to see the people calling this bronze level play make the divorced tactical decision under that much pressure.

Edit: Torch's late game is pretty weak though.


This is by far the dumbest argument that continues to be used for some reason. You do not need to be a top player in order to criticize someone. You don't need to be a chef in order to criticize someone's cooking. I don't need to be top diamond to point out very sloppy play


Right, but there is a difference between critizing top level play, and identifying TOP LEVEL play as BRONZE.

Hyperbole? On MY internet??
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
October 30 2010 23:42 GMT
#433
On October 31 2010 08:41 Liquid`Ret wrote:
nice, home in time for a zvp


home = Korea ?
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
miNix
Profile Joined August 2010
Turkey156 Posts
October 30 2010 23:42 GMT
#434
On October 31 2010 08:41 Liquid`Ret wrote:
nice, home in time for a zvp

ret i heard you going to GSL3? you confirm this?
bonjwa
starcraft2leverage
Profile Joined October 2010
United States207 Posts
October 30 2010 23:42 GMT
#435
It makes sense to say "Torch/LZ did X, Y, and Z wrong." It's really ignorant to say, "these guys are bronze/silver level" when they'd wipe the floor with you all. And then to persist in flaming me.
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
October 30 2010 23:42 GMT
#436
"I can't wait to get on the forums and see if everyone is as pumped as I am" - Day9
TL you are about to disappoint Day, can you handle that?
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Astans
Profile Joined October 2010
205 Posts
October 30 2010 23:42 GMT
#437
Torch never seems to build any planetary fortresses. One planetary at the gold and this would have been a different game. He doesn't seem to defend much at all.
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 23:43:39
October 30 2010 23:42 GMT
#438
On October 31 2010 08:39 starcraft2leverage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:38 javy925 wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:33 starcraft2leverage wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:24 Roggay wrote:
The trash talk in this thread however is quite a bit over the top considering that most people replying couldn't take a game off any of these players (including TorcH, who apparently "plays like a Bronze leaguer").



This x1000. Both players made big mistakes, but I'd like to see the people calling this bronze level play make the divorced tactical decision under that much pressure.

Edit: Torch's late game is pretty weak though.


This is by far the dumbest argument that continues to be used for some reason. You do not need to be a top player in order to criticize someone. You don't need to be a chef in order to criticize someone's cooking. I don't need to be top diamond to point out very sloppy play


Right, but there is a difference between critizing top level play, and identifying TOP LEVEL play as BRONZE.


who would consider this as top level play? It's an exaggeration to say it's bronze level but it's definitely not top level. I'm saying that you don't need to be better than someone in order to point out their mistakes
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
ffdestiny
Profile Joined September 2010
United States773 Posts
October 30 2010 23:43 GMT
#439
On October 31 2010 08:39 starcraft2leverage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:38 javy925 wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:33 starcraft2leverage wrote:
On October 31 2010 08:24 Roggay wrote:
The trash talk in this thread however is quite a bit over the top considering that most people replying couldn't take a game off any of these players (including TorcH, who apparently "plays like a Bronze leaguer").



This x1000. Both players made big mistakes, but I'd like to see the people calling this bronze level play make the divorced tactical decision under that much pressure.

Edit: Torch's late game is pretty weak though.


This is by far the dumbest argument that continues to be used for some reason. You do not need to be a top player in order to criticize someone. You don't need to be a chef in order to criticize someone's cooking. I don't need to be top diamond to point out very sloppy play


Right, but there is a difference between critizing top level play, and identifying TOP LEVEL play as BRONZE.


Yeah dumb argument, I know it's all so sane for someone who has absolutely no idea about pro-gaming, whether it be bronze, copper, wood, or ore league. Yep, certainly seems like it's a great idea for them to assess a situation of they don't know anything about!
ithree
Profile Joined January 2010
443 Posts
October 30 2010 23:43 GMT
#440
I don't care what anyone thinks I loooved watching those games, absolutely awesome.
This whole tourney can end now and it would be win.

Grack been dammed, this side of Torch is entertaining as hell.
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