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cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
October 10 2010 11:58 GMT
#621
On October 10 2010 20:55 FuRong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 20:52 Roffles wrote:
Boxer to play 장홍욱 aka Fire for a spot in Ro64.


As in this guy?

http://sc2ranks.com/kr/86983/Fire


It's this guy:

http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/1361507/이우섭
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
GmGandi
Profile Joined October 2010
53 Posts
October 10 2010 11:58 GMT
#622
A double elimination structure has been mentioned a couple of times and not been talked about as a solution to "teh brackets sux" style complaints. A double elimination qualifier gives you a significantly higher percentage chance of getting good players in the ro64.

Imagine if you were in FruitDealer's bracket for the GSL1, you could have easily been ro16/ro8 material, but being paired with the one Zerg to rule them all you would have been toast before seeing a single TV appearance. If it was double elim, then you would probably win your losers bracket after losing to the future tournament champion.

In the first GSL, there were actually a lot of really not strong ro64 compeditors. If you have a double elimination structure, your chance of advancing two good players is a lot higher (because a pretty good player won't be totally kicked out by a great player).

Plus, this has the added benefit of being irrefutable. If you lose two matches, you really don't have any cause to complain that you didn't get a chance.

The only problem with double elim is that its more administration to run (and more matches), but these are offline qualifiers so its at least not the audience's time. Please give us a better prelim structure and therefore a better ro64!
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
October 10 2010 11:58 GMT
#623
On October 10 2010 20:55 Sobba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 20:52 vaahto wrote:
I think they should require people to confirm their registration while being physically present before the first qualifying round starts. It sucks that people who registered but didn't show up are still matched up with other people.


Have a registration "fee" that is returned to you when you show up and play. Like $10. That is if they have a problem with "fake signers".



great idea.

btw if boxers opponent is really a 1.2k barely over 50% winrate guy ranked below 50th in his division, boxer should easily make it.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
z00t
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia976 Posts
October 10 2010 11:58 GMT
#624
Oh man, I'm really sad that July didn't make it .

As much as I want Boxer to get into the GSL, I can't help but worry that he won't be quite up to par with the other players. Judging from his games with Idra and Jinro, he just doesn't seem to be playing as sharp as he could =/. Like with TLO, I worry that if he tries to pull out too much flair instead of playing solidly, he could lose matches he might otherwise have won =/.
laughingsdk
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia31 Posts
October 10 2010 12:00 GMT
#625
On October 10 2010 20:58 cablesc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 20:55 FuRong wrote:
On October 10 2010 20:52 Roffles wrote:
Boxer to play 장홍욱 aka Fire for a spot in Ro64.


As in this guy?

http://sc2ranks.com/kr/86983/Fire


It's this guy:

http://www.sc2ranks.com/kr/1361507/이우섭


thx for correction.
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 12:02:12
October 10 2010 12:00 GMT
#626
On October 10 2010 20:51 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 20:49 Shizuru~ wrote:
On October 10 2010 20:43 motbob wrote:
On October 10 2010 20:41 Shizuru~ wrote:
On October 10 2010 20:38 motbob wrote:
On October 10 2010 20:37 Shizuru~ wrote:
On October 10 2010 20:34 Pekkz wrote:
Julyzerg not making it is so fucking annoying, even more sad is being eliminated by a player called gaybar.



There goes about 20,000 viewer counts for GomTV i guess? yes, the way they are doing this pre-liminaries is retarded.

Yes, people named Julyzerg should get a free pass and everyone else should have to work their way though prelims.



no where in my post did i imply that JulyZerg or any of the big names should've gotten a free pass, i'm saying they just lost some ratings potential with July being eliminated. and you do not agree that the way that this preliminary isn't as fair it should've been?

July's losing had nothing to do with the structure of the prelim. It had nothing to do with "fairness." He lost to a scrub protoss. Stop making excuses.



sigh... again no where have i implied that July's lost was due to the structure of the preliminaries, i am saying like how Boxer got 2 wins by default because of no shows, and then luckily gets free pass to the next stage of elimination process... it should'nt have been run this way...


i hope you will stop drawing wild conclusion and put words into others mouth now -.-

Wow, you need to man up and accept that I'm not putting words in your mouth. You dug your own grave here.

When someone says:
Show nested quote +
Julyzerg not making it is so fucking annoying, even more sad is being eliminated by a player called gaybar.


And you respond:
Show nested quote +
There goes about 20,000 viewer counts for GomTV i guess? yes, the way they are doing this pre-liminaries is retarded.


...then how the fuck is that not implying that implied that July's loss was due to the structure of the preliminaries?


first sentence: There goes about 20,000 viewer counts for GomTV i guess?

i am saying how Gom is losing ratings because July is eliminated.

second sentence: yes, the way they are doing this pre-liminaries is retarded.

i am stating the fact that the preliminaries is poorly run.

maybe you're mis-interpreting what i am saying.. well i guess people sees whatever they want to see /shrug, well anyway should really chill and stop arguing over a mis-understanding now.

On October 10 2010 20:58 z00t wrote:
Oh man, I'm really sad that July didn't make it .

As much as I want Boxer to get into the GSL, I can't help but worry that he won't be quite up to par with the other players. Judging from his games with Idra and Jinro, he just doesn't seem to be playing as sharp as he could =/. Like with TLO, I worry that if he tries to pull out too much flair instead of playing solidly, he could lose matches he might otherwise have won =/.


i think many July fans are dissapointed as well, but yeah, Boxer even says that he practises alone all by himself and doesn't really talk or discuss about SC2 to anyone else, but who knows right, sometimes happy things happens!
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
October 10 2010 12:00 GMT
#627
any word on Nada?
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
flk0s
Profile Joined September 2010
54 Posts
October 10 2010 12:00 GMT
#628
On October 10 2010 20:51 Rielle wrote:
how can people not understand this? SC2 is new. There are no universal rankings/ladders that can fairly seed people in pre-lims for the GSL.

it has been said countless times that the 2010 GSL tournaments will create the first seedings for 2011 where seedings will start to take place.

till then completely random is completely fair. even if july has to face boxer in the first round of the pre-lims.


There's this thing called the Blizzard ladder system and all.... It would be so easy to seed people based on their ladder ranking...

And please don't go on about how ladder rank means nothing, there is a very high correlation between ladder rank and skill, and at least this forms quite a good basis for a seeding system. Possible enhancements might be factoring in win percentages.
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
October 10 2010 12:00 GMT
#629
get it through your heads. in any REAL tournament, seeds are ALWAYS based off results. GSL is new, so there are no results to base seeds off. that's why they're having these open prelims, so they can establish seeds and the top players will be seeded in when the real GSL starts. sorry to break it to you guys, but favourite player != top players. can you stop posting rubbish now, i'd like to see Boxer's fate without having to filter through all these posts.
Cloudsong
Profile Joined October 2010
Luxembourg69 Posts
October 10 2010 12:00 GMT
#630
http://www.afreeca.com/opentv/opentv_pop.asp?szStr=5559080a5013501a45495a1145134f44064b47095b4a&nWidth=640&nHeight=480&isAutoPlay=1
GG
anemoneya
Profile Joined October 2010
58 Posts
October 10 2010 12:00 GMT
#631
1. GayBar is out of tournament.
2. Someone is broadcasting Boxer's game on Afreeca TV. Too bad I don't have access to it (free from only korean ip)
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
October 10 2010 12:00 GMT
#632
On October 10 2010 20:58 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 20:55 Sobba wrote:
On October 10 2010 20:52 vaahto wrote:
I think they should require people to confirm their registration while being physically present before the first qualifying round starts. It sucks that people who registered but didn't show up are still matched up with other people.


Have a registration "fee" that is returned to you when you show up and play. Like $10. That is if they have a problem with "fake signers".



great idea.

btw if boxers opponent is really a 1.2k barely over 50% winrate guy ranked below 50th in his division, boxer should easily make it.


Unless the guy proxy raxes like hypoerdub against TLO :p
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
October 10 2010 12:00 GMT
#633
On October 10 2010 20:55 Sobba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 20:52 vaahto wrote:
I think they should require people to confirm their registration while being physically present before the first qualifying round starts. It sucks that people who registered but didn't show up are still matched up with other people.


Have a registration "fee" that is returned to you when you show up and play. Like $10. That is if they have a problem with "fake signers".

There probably are people who don't have that much money. It might sound I'm joking but I'm not.
But it is the best idea I've heard so far and this could potentially work for the best for GSL.
GSL asking for an insurance by letting the registrants paying 10 bucks and they'll keep the 10 bucks if a registrant doesn't show up which could sum up nicely when a large group doesn't show up.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
October 10 2010 12:01 GMT
#634
HEY HEY HEY

http://www.afreeca.com/opentv/opentv_pop.asp?szStr=5559080a5013501a45495a1145134f44064b47095b4a&nWidth=640&nHeight=480&isAutoPlay=1
http://www.afreeca.com/opentv/opentv_pop.asp?szStr=5559080a5013501a45495a1145134f44064b47095b4a&nWidth=640&nHeight=480&isAutoPlay=1
http://www.afreeca.com/opentv/opentv_pop.asp?szStr=5559080a5013501a45495a1145134f44064b47095b4a&nWidth=640&nHeight=480&isAutoPlay=1
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
October 10 2010 12:01 GMT
#635
On October 10 2010 21:00 Cloudsong wrote:
http://www.afreeca.com/opentv/opentv_pop.asp?szStr=5559080a5013501a45495a1145134f44064b47095b4a&nWidth=640&nHeight=480&isAutoPlay=1


WHY IT GIVES ERROR, NOW!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
October 10 2010 12:01 GMT
#636
Someone restream!!!
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
October 10 2010 12:01 GMT
#637
Can someone restream that, please?
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
October 10 2010 12:02 GMT
#638
On October 10 2010 21:00 anemoneya wrote:
1. GayBar is out of tournament.
2. Someone is broadcasting Boxer's game on Afreeca TV. Too bad I don't have access to it (free from only korean ip)


Can someone restream asap?
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
Borked
Profile Joined October 2010
221 Posts
October 10 2010 12:02 GMT
#639
On October 10 2010 21:00 Shizuru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 20:51 motbob wrote:
On October 10 2010 20:49 Shizuru~ wrote:
On October 10 2010 20:43 motbob wrote:
On October 10 2010 20:41 Shizuru~ wrote:
On October 10 2010 20:38 motbob wrote:
On October 10 2010 20:37 Shizuru~ wrote:
On October 10 2010 20:34 Pekkz wrote:
Julyzerg not making it is so fucking annoying, even more sad is being eliminated by a player called gaybar.



There goes about 20,000 viewer counts for GomTV i guess? yes, the way they are doing this pre-liminaries is retarded.

Yes, people named Julyzerg should get a free pass and everyone else should have to work their way though prelims.



no where in my post did i imply that JulyZerg or any of the big names should've gotten a free pass, i'm saying they just lost some ratings potential with July being eliminated. and you do not agree that the way that this preliminary isn't as fair it should've been?

July's losing had nothing to do with the structure of the prelim. It had nothing to do with "fairness." He lost to a scrub protoss. Stop making excuses.



sigh... again no where have i implied that July's lost was due to the structure of the preliminaries, i am saying like how Boxer got 2 wins by default because of no shows, and then luckily gets free pass to the next stage of elimination process... it should'nt have been run this way...


i hope you will stop drawing wild conclusion and put words into others mouth now -.-

Wow, you need to man up and accept that I'm not putting words in your mouth. You dug your own grave here.

When someone says:
Julyzerg not making it is so fucking annoying, even more sad is being eliminated by a player called gaybar.


And you respond:
There goes about 20,000 viewer counts for GomTV i guess? yes, the way they are doing this pre-liminaries is retarded.


...then how the fuck is that not implying that implied that July's loss was due to the structure of the preliminaries?


first sentence: There goes about 20,000 viewer counts for GomTV i guess?

i am saying how Gom is losing ratings because July is eliminated.

second sentence: yes, the way they are doing this pre-liminaries is retarded.

i am stating the fact that the preliminaries is poorly run.

maybe you're mis-interpreting what i am saying.. well i guess people sees whatever they want to see /shrug, well anyway should really chill and stop arguing over a mis-understanding now.




Shiruzu, I think you are pushing it motbob has a point. Can we return to topic
Thou shall not crave thy neighbor.
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
October 10 2010 12:03 GMT
#640
Restream pleeaaaaaaaaase, will be so epic.
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