On October 09 2010 07:49 cAsaLocoS wrote:
is the stream not workin or are the games finished?
is the stream not workin or are the games finished?
games are finished for today i believe.
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DJ Roomba
158 Posts
On October 09 2010 07:49 cAsaLocoS wrote: is the stream not workin or are the games finished? games are finished for today i believe. | ||
Cranberries
Wales567 Posts
On October 09 2010 07:47 Jibba wrote: Show nested quote + On October 09 2010 07:43 Cranberries wrote: On October 09 2010 07:41 DonKey_ wrote: On October 09 2010 07:37 Longshank wrote: On October 09 2010 07:26 DonKey_ wrote: On October 09 2010 07:24 question wrote: Lol it doesnt matter if it was PF or OC. that PF was out of range that collasus army..... ^ this is very true it wasn't the fact that it was a PF that stopped kiwi from killing it , it was the repairing from the scvs that kept it alive. I'm not gonna discuss balance, Kiwi made some bad decissions and Fenix deserved the win - but this is just nonsense. The fact that it was a PF stopped Kiwi from both getting closer to kill off the scvs(there were no tanks up at that time) and attacking with his group of sentries/stalkers. An OC would have gone down instantly. your not going to discuss balance, but you are ? yes the PF prevented any OTHER units from killing the scvs but the collosi could easily have had range of them, and not been shot by the PF Planetary Fortresses are 3 "range" big. Colossi have range 9. Planetary Fortresses have range 6. Colossi get hit if they try to target SCVs that are repairing, especially when the Terran player is competent enough to move them to the furthest possible location from the Colossi. So he sends in a zealot first to eat hits, then picks off SCVs, then moves back. This is the "tactics" thing we're talking about. Except Zealots would get massacred by the Planetary Fortresses 40 damage AoE attacks? Or are you suggesting that you suicide 500 minerals to kill 3 SCVs? The problem I have with the Planetary Fortress is that it's an expansion with no risk of being harassed on the ground, and Protoss have not a single decent air harass unit (at least not the Phoenix with it's Graviton Beam bug). It breaks the flow of a game because you've instantly lost to a Terran who gets a third expansion Planetary Fortress and you're still playing on two bases. | ||
Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On October 09 2010 07:50 DJ Roomba wrote: Show nested quote + On October 09 2010 07:49 cAsaLocoS wrote: is the stream not workin or are the games finished? games are finished for today i believe. Drewbie and SUGGY are still playing, then that is is. But they are not being streamed. | ||
Funkatron
United States725 Posts
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On October 09 2010 07:50 iCCup.Diamond wrote: Show nested quote + On October 09 2010 07:49 Laekoth wrote: Does anyone know why Huk has two penalty points according to the ESL site? Edit: Nevermind, answered in post before me. I think it's due to him refusing casters in a Go4SC2 a while back, there was some drama about that. | ||
eohs
United States677 Posts
On October 09 2010 07:49 Jibba wrote: Show nested quote + On October 09 2010 07:46 EzoGooD wrote: On October 09 2010 07:44 kojinshugi wrote: On October 09 2010 07:43 EzoGooD wrote: I posted one thing about how ZERG isnt in this, and i get a TL.BOT saying ... "Keep the fucking trash balance whining out of the LR thread." just because i said balance. Now i have a warning because i spoke the truth that there are no zergs in this tourney how is that sparking the balance issues. I am simply stating that there are no ZERGS in this tourney. Isn't that odd? kinda makes me want to play zerg I am sure it makes some other ppl who like to be the underdog be zerg as well. And what do you think you're gonna get for THAT post? Someone has to post that ... it makes no sense that i would be warned saying and that there are no zergs , and ppl think this game is balanced. That is what I said. I just find it funny that there is no zergs in this tourney. in korea or EU there is always a zerg in the finals or very close to the finals , in US there is no Zergs in the finals... just a statement. "Its funny how no zergs are in here , and ppl still think this game is balanced ... lol" Clearly that's not what you mean. Either take it to PM or face further punishment. You've already crapped in this thread once. Your BOT wont let me PM him back, IT SAYS (Do not reply to this message. No one will receive it.) so how can I PM that? Well if im lying about that balance thing then i guess im dying.... notice how no one argued with me lol. I wont say another word about it... just wanna put my 2cents in thats all. | ||
Dalavita
Sweden1113 Posts
There is no excuse for focusing the PF. Hell, even two void rays from his SGs would have done it in since he had air and ground control at that point and 2 SGs pumping phoenixes. | ||
ThePrince
Peru331 Posts
the results are wrong 2-0 for fenix not 2-1 | ||
blade55555
United States17423 Posts
Does drewbie still advance no matter what? | ||
DonKey_
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
On October 09 2010 07:51 Cranberries wrote: Show nested quote + On October 09 2010 07:47 Jibba wrote: On October 09 2010 07:43 Cranberries wrote: On October 09 2010 07:41 DonKey_ wrote: On October 09 2010 07:37 Longshank wrote: On October 09 2010 07:26 DonKey_ wrote: On October 09 2010 07:24 question wrote: Lol it doesnt matter if it was PF or OC. that PF was out of range that collasus army..... ^ this is very true it wasn't the fact that it was a PF that stopped kiwi from killing it , it was the repairing from the scvs that kept it alive. I'm not gonna discuss balance, Kiwi made some bad decissions and Fenix deserved the win - but this is just nonsense. The fact that it was a PF stopped Kiwi from both getting closer to kill off the scvs(there were no tanks up at that time) and attacking with his group of sentries/stalkers. An OC would have gone down instantly. your not going to discuss balance, but you are ? yes the PF prevented any OTHER units from killing the scvs but the collosi could easily have had range of them, and not been shot by the PF Planetary Fortresses are 3 "range" big. Colossi have range 9. Planetary Fortresses have range 6. Colossi get hit if they try to target SCVs that are repairing, especially when the Terran player is competent enough to move them to the furthest possible location from the Colossi. So he sends in a zealot first to eat hits, then picks off SCVs, then moves back. This is the "tactics" thing we're talking about. Except Zealots would get massacred by the Planetary Fortresses 40 damage AoE attacks? Or are you suggesting that you suicide 500 minerals to kill 3 SCVs? The problem I have with the Planetary Fortress is that it's an expansion with no risk of being harassed on the ground, and Protoss have not a single decent air harass unit (at least not the Phoenix with it's Graviton Beam bug). It breaks the flow of a game because you've instantly lost to a Terran who gets a third expansion Planetary Fortress and you're still playing on two bases. um? how do you instantly lose to a terran who has gotten a third base? sure if hes up a base he has a advantage but, that's true for all races. edit: when jibba said to send in a zealot I'm pretty sure he meant 1 zealot ie 100 minerals not 500 | ||
Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On October 09 2010 07:52 EzoGooD wrote: Show nested quote + On October 09 2010 07:49 Jibba wrote: On October 09 2010 07:46 EzoGooD wrote: On October 09 2010 07:44 kojinshugi wrote: On October 09 2010 07:43 EzoGooD wrote: I posted one thing about how ZERG isnt in this, and i get a TL.BOT saying ... "Keep the fucking trash balance whining out of the LR thread." just because i said balance. Now i have a warning because i spoke the truth that there are no zergs in this tourney how is that sparking the balance issues. I am simply stating that there are no ZERGS in this tourney. Isn't that odd? kinda makes me want to play zerg I am sure it makes some other ppl who like to be the underdog be zerg as well. And what do you think you're gonna get for THAT post? Someone has to post that ... it makes no sense that i would be warned saying and that there are no zergs , and ppl think this game is balanced. That is what I said. I just find it funny that there is no zergs in this tourney. in korea or EU there is always a zerg in the finals or very close to the finals , in US there is no Zergs in the finals... just a statement. "Its funny how no zergs are in here , and ppl still think this game is balanced ... lol" Clearly that's not what you mean. Either take it to PM or face further punishment. You've already crapped in this thread once. Your BOT wont let me PM him back, IT SAYS (Do not reply to this message. No one will receive it.) so how can I PM that? Well if im lying about that balance thing then i guess im dying.... notice how no one argued with me lol. I wont say another word about it... just wanna put my 2cents in thats all. I would highly suggest to stop with the IMBA talk and stop arguing with the mods. Just a suggestion however.... | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On October 09 2010 07:51 Cranberries wrote: 40 damage vs. 50 shields/100 hp. That means it takes 4 shots to kill 1 zealot. If you split them up, it might take even more. How many SCVs can 5 collosi kill in 8+ seconds?Show nested quote + On October 09 2010 07:47 Jibba wrote: On October 09 2010 07:43 Cranberries wrote: On October 09 2010 07:41 DonKey_ wrote: On October 09 2010 07:37 Longshank wrote: On October 09 2010 07:26 DonKey_ wrote: On October 09 2010 07:24 question wrote: Lol it doesnt matter if it was PF or OC. that PF was out of range that collasus army..... ^ this is very true it wasn't the fact that it was a PF that stopped kiwi from killing it , it was the repairing from the scvs that kept it alive. I'm not gonna discuss balance, Kiwi made some bad decissions and Fenix deserved the win - but this is just nonsense. The fact that it was a PF stopped Kiwi from both getting closer to kill off the scvs(there were no tanks up at that time) and attacking with his group of sentries/stalkers. An OC would have gone down instantly. your not going to discuss balance, but you are ? yes the PF prevented any OTHER units from killing the scvs but the collosi could easily have had range of them, and not been shot by the PF Planetary Fortresses are 3 "range" big. Colossi have range 9. Planetary Fortresses have range 6. Colossi get hit if they try to target SCVs that are repairing, especially when the Terran player is competent enough to move them to the furthest possible location from the Colossi. So he sends in a zealot first to eat hits, then picks off SCVs, then moves back. This is the "tactics" thing we're talking about. Except Zealots would get massacred by the Planetary Fortresses 40 damage AoE attacks? Or are you suggesting that you suicide 500 minerals to kill 3 SCVs? The problem I have with the Planetary Fortress is that it's an expansion with no risk of being harassed on the ground, and Protoss have not a single decent air harass unit (at least not the Phoenix with it's Graviton Beam bug). It breaks the flow of a game because you've instantly lost to a Terran who gets a third expansion Planetary Fortress and you're still playing on two bases. | ||
Dust14
Belgium490 Posts
On October 09 2010 07:53 blade55555 wrote: Suggy beat drewbie 2-1. Does drewbie still advance no matter what? Depends if that Huk vs Murder result on the ESL site is correct or not | ||
Zax19
Czech Republic1136 Posts
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zeross
France310 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On October 09 2010 07:55 Dust14 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 09 2010 07:53 blade55555 wrote: Suggy beat drewbie 2-1. Does drewbie still advance no matter what? Depends if that Huk vs Murder result on the ESL site is correct or not No murder lost. I'm 99% sure that Drewbie still advances. Murder lost 2-1. ![]() | ||
Longshank
1648 Posts
On October 09 2010 07:41 DonKey_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On October 09 2010 07:37 Longshank wrote: Show nested quote + On October 09 2010 07:26 DonKey_ wrote: On October 09 2010 07:24 question wrote: Lol it doesnt matter if it was PF or OC. that PF was out of range that collasus army..... ^ this is very true it wasn't the fact that it was a PF that stopped kiwi from killing it , it was the repairing from the scvs that kept it alive. I'm not gonna discuss balance, Kiwi made some bad decissions and Fenix deserved the win - but this is just nonsense. The fact that it was a PF stopped Kiwi from both getting closer to kill off the scvs(there were no tanks up at that time) and attacking with his group of sentries/stalkers. An OC would have gone down instantly. your not going to discuss balance, but you are ? yes the PF prevented any OTHER units from killing the scvs but the collosi could easily have had range of them, and not been shot by the PF No I'm not. I'm just pointing out the error in saying it didn't matter if it was an OC or a PF. I'm not saying anything about PFs being too strong or not. And you should read up on the attack range of PFs and Colossus. | ||
eohs
United States677 Posts
On October 09 2010 07:53 iCCup.Diamond wrote: SUGGY beat Drewbie 2-1 Show nested quote + On October 09 2010 07:52 EzoGooD wrote: On October 09 2010 07:49 Jibba wrote: On October 09 2010 07:46 EzoGooD wrote: On October 09 2010 07:44 kojinshugi wrote: On October 09 2010 07:43 EzoGooD wrote: I posted one thing about how ZERG isnt in this, and i get a TL.BOT saying ... "Keep the fucking trash balance whining out of the LR thread." just because i said balance. Now i have a warning because i spoke the truth that there are no zergs in this tourney how is that sparking the balance issues. I am simply stating that there are no ZERGS in this tourney. Isn't that odd? kinda makes me want to play zerg I am sure it makes some other ppl who like to be the underdog be zerg as well. And what do you think you're gonna get for THAT post? Someone has to post that ... it makes no sense that i would be warned saying and that there are no zergs , and ppl think this game is balanced. That is what I said. I just find it funny that there is no zergs in this tourney. in korea or EU there is always a zerg in the finals or very close to the finals , in US there is no Zergs in the finals... just a statement. "Its funny how no zergs are in here , and ppl still think this game is balanced ... lol" Clearly that's not what you mean. Either take it to PM or face further punishment. You've already crapped in this thread once. Your BOT wont let me PM him back, IT SAYS (Do not reply to this message. No one will receive it.) so how can I PM that? Well if im lying about that balance thing then i guess im dying.... notice how no one argued with me lol. I wont say another word about it... just wanna put my 2cents in thats all. I would highly suggest to stop with the IMBA talk and stop arguing with the mods. Just a suggestion however.... I have already dropped it, however this post kinda is in the same group however I am just answering u , so should be ok... | ||
Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On October 09 2010 07:56 blade55555 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 09 2010 07:55 Dust14 wrote: On October 09 2010 07:53 blade55555 wrote: Suggy beat drewbie 2-1. Does drewbie still advance no matter what? Depends if that Huk vs Murder result on the ESL site is correct or not No murder lost. I'm 99% sure that Drewbie still advances. Murder lost 2-1. ![]() Correct, I'm going off match histories (as I am sure blade is also) not the ESL site. | ||
Dingotrold
Denmark622 Posts
Going for SCVs is probably the only thing you can do against PF. It does seem kinda harsh that 6 Collosus can't take out a terran main, while 6 marauders can take out a protoss main without much hassle, but that's what happens man. | ||
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