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On October 09 2010 07:58 DonKey_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 09 2010 07:56 Longshank wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 07:41 DonKey_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 09 2010 07:37 Longshank wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 07:26 DonKey_ wrote:On October 09 2010 07:24 question wrote:
Lol it doesnt matter if it was PF or OC. that PF was out of range that collasus army..... ^ this is very true it wasn't the fact that it was a PF that stopped kiwi from killing it , it was the repairing from the scvs that kept it alive. I'm not gonna discuss balance, Kiwi made some bad decissions and Fenix deserved the win - but this is just nonsense. The fact that it was a PF stopped Kiwi from both getting closer to kill off the scvs(there were no tanks up at that time) and attacking with his group of sentries/stalkers. An OC would have gone down instantly. your not going to discuss balance, but you are ? yes the PF prevented any OTHER units from killing the scvs but the collosi could easily have had range of them, and not been shot by the PF No I'm not. I'm just pointing out the error in saying it didn't matter if it was an OC or a PF. I'm not saying anything about PFs being too strong or not. And you should read up on the attack range of PFs and Colossus. read up on the other post please cause range was not the issue it was the fact that he targeted the PF and not the scvs
Rubbish, he killed off quite a lot of SCVs but couldn't get to those at left/bottom left side of the PF. But go ahead and tell yourself that building hadn't gone down had it been an OC.
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On October 09 2010 08:07 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 08:06 blade55555 wrote:
So I predict we'll see Huk vs Fenix finals! I love Drewbie but I don't see him getting through Fenix in any way shape or form. But if HuK tomorrow plays like he did today I think we could easily have a QXC vs. Fenix finals. That would be nuts.
I didn't see the games of him but I really want to see the games of him vs murder as that 1st game went on forever must have been awesome 
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On October 09 2010 08:08 Longshank wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 07:58 DonKey_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 09 2010 07:56 Longshank wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 07:41 DonKey_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 09 2010 07:37 Longshank wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 07:26 DonKey_ wrote:On October 09 2010 07:24 question wrote:
Lol it doesnt matter if it was PF or OC. that PF was out of range that collasus army..... ^ this is very true it wasn't the fact that it was a PF that stopped kiwi from killing it , it was the repairing from the scvs that kept it alive. I'm not gonna discuss balance, Kiwi made some bad decissions and Fenix deserved the win - but this is just nonsense. The fact that it was a PF stopped Kiwi from both getting closer to kill off the scvs(there were no tanks up at that time) and attacking with his group of sentries/stalkers. An OC would have gone down instantly. your not going to discuss balance, but you are ? yes the PF prevented any OTHER units from killing the scvs but the collosi could easily have had range of them, and not been shot by the PF No I'm not. I'm just pointing out the error in saying it didn't matter if it was an OC or a PF. I'm not saying anything about PFs being too strong or not. And you should read up on the attack range of PFs and Colossus. read up on the other post please cause range was not the issue it was the fact that he targeted the PF and not the scvs Rubbish, he killed off quite a lot of SCVs but couldn't get to those at left/bottom left side of the PF. But go ahead and tell yourself that building hadn't gone down had it been an OC.
It would have taken 10 seconds for him to run in and kill all the SCVs, how long does it take a PF to kill a bunch of colossus? I would imagine a lot longer than that, if Kiwi micros properly he can run in and kill all the SCVs without losing a single one. Remember Fenix had nothing defending.
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the german dude has some ballin hair...lol
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How many more live reports threads balance QQers need to ruin before they understand that nobody cares ?
Make a balance QQ thread and talk about QQing and balance whinning there please.
Let the people who just want to enjoy the game enjoy it.
Most QQers become so irrational after some rational people answer them it is just ridiculous. Like QQing is a religion to be protected against all form of logic. That makes people who talk about balances issues seriously looks bad, and it is really not productive.
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So when is the next SC2 match?
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All replays from today can be found at: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/newyork/sc2_groupstage/
Just click on "vs." and you can find them in each match as match media.
Sorry for the confusion with the final standing of group A. I'm quite tired and entered a wrong result. First is of course HuK, 2nd drewbie.
Tomorrow's matches will start at 2.30pm EST (qxc vs. HuK and Fenix vs. drewbie).
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Maybe mods need to be harsher on QQers in LR threads in the future, half this thread is whining and replies to whining.
I hope HuK plays a bit more solid tomorrow, and Fenix just played so solid today it looked unbeatable. Why is this ESL tourney lacking so much production values compared to last one? No winner interviews, no PIP or camera cutaways showing the players, no camera on crowd, etc.
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On October 09 2010 08:29 Shawngood wrote:All replays from today can be found at: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/newyork/sc2_groupstage/Just click on "vs." and you can find them in each match as match media. Sorry for the confusion with the final standing of group A. I'm quite tired and entered a wrong result. First is of course HuK, 2nd drewbie. Tomorrow's matches will start at 2.30pm EST (qxc vs. HuK and Fenix vs. drewbie).
thanks 
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The reason there are no Zerg is because the qualifiers were pre-patch and Idra was a no-show.
GSL would have looked a lot different if 1.1 hadn't dropped in the middle of it.
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On October 09 2010 08:34 fantomex wrote:
The reason there are no Zerg is because the qualifiers were pre-patch and Idra was a no-show.
GSL would have looked a lot different if 1.1 hadn't dropped in the middle of it.
It had nothing to do with the patch. It just happened that no Zerg players qualified.
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On October 09 2010 08:08 Longshank wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 07:58 DonKey_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 09 2010 07:56 Longshank wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 07:41 DonKey_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 09 2010 07:37 Longshank wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 07:26 DonKey_ wrote:On October 09 2010 07:24 question wrote:
Lol it doesnt matter if it was PF or OC. that PF was out of range that collasus army..... ^ this is very true it wasn't the fact that it was a PF that stopped kiwi from killing it , it was the repairing from the scvs that kept it alive. I'm not gonna discuss balance, Kiwi made some bad decissions and Fenix deserved the win - but this is just nonsense. The fact that it was a PF stopped Kiwi from both getting closer to kill off the scvs(there were no tanks up at that time) and attacking with his group of sentries/stalkers. An OC would have gone down instantly. your not going to discuss balance, but you are ? yes the PF prevented any OTHER units from killing the scvs but the collosi could easily have had range of them, and not been shot by the PF No I'm not. I'm just pointing out the error in saying it didn't matter if it was an OC or a PF. I'm not saying anything about PFs being too strong or not. And you should read up on the attack range of PFs and Colossus. read up on the other post please cause range was not the issue it was the fact that he targeted the PF and not the scvs Rubbish, he killed off quite a lot of SCVs but couldn't get to those at left/bottom left side of the PF. But go ahead and tell yourself that building hadn't gone down had it been an OC.
are you seriously trying to tell me that the PF was gonna kill 5-6 collosus before he got 1 shot off to kill the remaining scvs? It would not have even gotten through ones shield before he could have killed the scvs and backed up to then kill the PF.
..and never once did I say that a OC would not have died as well , but the point I was making was that his PF did not simply survive because of the fact that it's a PF
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I hope Sean will get some sleep and be ready for another day.. he looked and sounded soooo tired in the end. Poor guy
Great job on the casting, hope they keep it up!
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On October 09 2010 08:50 awha wrote:I hope Sean will get some sleep and be ready for another day.. he looked and sounded soooo tired in the end. Poor guy Great job on the casting, hope they keep it up!
Yea his voice was not sounding too hot by the end. I really hope he drinks about 10 gallons of water. I would go cry in a corner if he totally lost his voice from today  .
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what is going on? are there any vods? i've been looking for the past hour now.
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On October 09 2010 08:41 Liquid`Tyler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 08:34 fantomex wrote:
The reason there are no Zerg is because the qualifiers were pre-patch and Idra was a no-show.
GSL would have looked a lot different if 1.1 hadn't dropped in the middle of it. It had nothing to do with the patch. It just happened that no Zerg players qualified.
well thats misleading
someone like machine obviously deserves to be there than some of these guys, and the reason no zergs are there is because of balance. it only had nothing to do with the patch because the patch didnt fix anything.
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On October 09 2010 08:58 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 08:41 Liquid`Tyler wrote:On October 09 2010 08:34 fantomex wrote:
The reason there are no Zerg is because the qualifiers were pre-patch and Idra was a no-show.
GSL would have looked a lot different if 1.1 hadn't dropped in the middle of it. It had nothing to do with the patch. It just happened that no Zerg players qualified. well thats misleading someone like machine obviously deserves to be there than some of these guys, and the reason no zergs are there is because of balance. it only had nothing to do with the patch because the patch didnt fix anything.
did u hear that cool won the GSL?
did u?
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On October 09 2010 08:58 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 08:41 Liquid`Tyler wrote:On October 09 2010 08:34 fantomex wrote:
The reason there are no Zerg is because the qualifiers were pre-patch and Idra was a no-show.
GSL would have looked a lot different if 1.1 hadn't dropped in the middle of it. It had nothing to do with the patch. It just happened that no Zerg players qualified. well thats misleading someone like machine obviously deserves to be there than some of these guys, and the reason no zergs are there is because of balance. it only had nothing to do with the patch because the patch didnt fix anything.
Well maybe is some certain Zerg player that lives in Korea had not dropped out we would have a Zerg  ! lol jp <3 IdrA
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On October 09 2010 08:58 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 08:41 Liquid`Tyler wrote:On October 09 2010 08:34 fantomex wrote:
The reason there are no Zerg is because the qualifiers were pre-patch and Idra was a no-show.
GSL would have looked a lot different if 1.1 hadn't dropped in the middle of it. It had nothing to do with the patch. It just happened that no Zerg players qualified. well thats misleading someone like machine obviously deserves to be there than some of these guys, and the reason no zergs are there is because of balance. it only had nothing to do with the patch because the patch didnt fix anything.
Maybe going little off-topic but I wonder what you IdrA think about the upcoming patch 1.2?
I'm just wondering if you think it will help and how much. At least the changes seem pretty big.
I know that koreans think that ZvP is the hardest for zergs and the patch doesn't really change that matchup but do you think that roach range increase and fungal+blink fix will help that matchup too?
What comes to todays IEM I have to say I liked it even though it was mostly PvP, PvT and TvT. Not my favorite matchups.
Also I don't really know NA players that well except from the few from bw and they weren't in.
Day9 did a great job, he casted like 7h and that's a lot. His voice started dying in the end but still good job. Get some rest ^^
Gunrun had a lot of complaints but I liked him. Gunrun isn't really a commentator like Day9 so it was obvious that Day would talk most of the time. Also his voice is just pure gold.
Can't wait for Day 2
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