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kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
October 08 2010 22:57 GMT
#2261
On October 09 2010 07:46 sleepingdog wrote:
how on earth can he move in to snipe stuff while protecting the main attack path to his own gold?

you mean like moving in with 2-3 colossi and losing them instantly to the group of vikings that comes flying? seriously, why don't you try off-racing with protoss (I've done it with terran often enough) to see how it feels like to control the dead-slow very vulnerable colossi? and then think about how it would be if you split them up


Don't split them up. Sit them at the left Xel'naga instead of the right one, They can easily retreat across the high ground if terran tries to push towards them, forcing the MM to go around. His AA can protect against vikings.

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Instead of sitting in the red area, sit in the green area. You cover much more open flank and are aided by tower vision and the walls. The enemy attack path to your gold needs to go through you or take the long way around via the right Xel'naga. If you cause any sort of retreat you can push in a very short distance towards the main (yellow area), take out some buildings/addons/depots and move right back.

kiwikaki is no low-level noob, the thought that he would be "unable" to split up his main force is so ridiculous, it doesn't even deserve to be commented;
not splitting up the colossi was the right choice - there's simply no way to protect two groups of colossi;


I never said he should split anything up.,
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Dust14
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium490 Posts
October 08 2010 22:57 GMT
#2262
On October 09 2010 07:56 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 07:55 Dust14 wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:53 blade55555 wrote:
Suggy beat drewbie 2-1.

Does drewbie still advance no matter what?

Depends if that Huk vs Murder result on the ESL site is correct or not


No murder lost. I'm 99% sure that Drewbie still advances.

Murder lost 2-1.

There should be a 3-way tiebreaker then if Murder lost vs Huk
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 08 2010 22:58 GMT
#2263
On October 09 2010 07:57 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 07:56 blade55555 wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:55 Dust14 wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:53 blade55555 wrote:
Suggy beat drewbie 2-1.

Does drewbie still advance no matter what?

Depends if that Huk vs Murder result on the ESL site is correct or not


No murder lost. I'm 99% sure that Drewbie still advances.

Murder lost 2-1.


Correct, I'm going off match histories (as I am sure blade is also) not the ESL site.


Yup thats how I got results ^^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
October 08 2010 22:58 GMT
#2264
On October 09 2010 07:52 EzoGooD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 07:49 Jibba wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:46 EzoGooD wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:44 kojinshugi wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:43 EzoGooD wrote:
I posted one thing about how ZERG isnt in this, and i get a TL.BOT saying ... "Keep the fucking trash balance whining out of the LR thread." just because i said balance. Now i have a warning because i spoke the truth that there are no zergs in this tourney how is that sparking the balance issues. I am simply stating that there are no ZERGS in this tourney. Isn't that odd? kinda makes me want to play zerg I am sure it makes some other ppl who like to be the underdog be zerg as well.


And what do you think you're gonna get for THAT post?



Someone has to post that ... it makes no sense that i would be warned saying and that there are no zergs , and ppl think this game is balanced. That is what I said. I just find it funny that there is no zergs in this tourney. in korea or EU there is always a zerg in the finals or very close to the finals , in US there is no Zergs in the finals... just a statement.

"Its funny how no zergs are in here , and ppl still think this game is balanced ... lol"

Clearly that's not what you mean. Either take it to PM or face further punishment. You've already crapped in this thread once.



Your BOT wont let me PM him back, IT SAYS (Do not reply to this message. No one will receive it.) so how can I PM that? Well if im lying about that balance thing then i guess im dying.... notice how no one argued with me lol. I wont say another word about it... just wanna put my 2cents in thats all.


please just stop...yes you stated the obvious that there wasn't a zerg player but your intentions was to provoke the whole balance crap with your following remark after you stated there wasn't a zerg player competing...
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
October 08 2010 22:58 GMT
#2265
Drewbie is 4-4 murder and suggy are 3-5
Diablo 3 Blog Me & My Mom http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=336890
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 08 2010 22:58 GMT
#2266
On October 09 2010 07:57 Dust14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 07:56 blade55555 wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:55 Dust14 wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:53 blade55555 wrote:
Suggy beat drewbie 2-1.

Does drewbie still advance no matter what?

Depends if that Huk vs Murder result on the ESL site is correct or not


No murder lost. I'm 99% sure that Drewbie still advances.

Murder lost 2-1.

There should be a 3-way tiebreaker then if Murder lost vs Huk


Murder did lose to HuK. I 100% guarantee this. 2-1 HuK
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
October 08 2010 22:58 GMT
#2267
On October 09 2010 07:56 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 07:41 DonKey_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On October 09 2010 07:37 Longshank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 07:26 DonKey_ wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:24 question wrote:
Lol it doesnt matter if it was PF or OC. that PF was out of range that collasus army.....


^ this is very true it wasn't the fact that it was a PF that stopped kiwi from killing it , it was the repairing from the scvs that kept it alive.



I'm not gonna discuss balance, Kiwi made some bad decissions and Fenix deserved the win - but this is just nonsense. The fact that it was a PF stopped Kiwi from both getting closer to kill off the scvs(there were no tanks up at that time) and attacking with his group of sentries/stalkers. An OC would have gone down instantly.


your not going to discuss balance, but you are ?

yes the PF prevented any OTHER units from killing the scvs but the collosi could easily have had range of them, and not been shot by the PF


No I'm not. I'm just pointing out the error in saying it didn't matter if it was an OC or a PF. I'm not saying anything about PFs being too strong or not.

And you should read up on the attack range of PFs and Colossus.


read up on the other post please cause range was not the issue it was the fact that he targeted the PF and not the scvs
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
eohs
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States677 Posts
October 08 2010 23:00 GMT
#2268
On October 09 2010 07:58 .kv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 07:52 EzoGooD wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:49 Jibba wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:46 EzoGooD wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:44 kojinshugi wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:43 EzoGooD wrote:
I posted one thing about how ZERG isnt in this, and i get a TL.BOT saying ... "Keep the fucking trash balance whining out of the LR thread." just because i said balance. Now i have a warning because i spoke the truth that there are no zergs in this tourney how is that sparking the balance issues. I am simply stating that there are no ZERGS in this tourney. Isn't that odd? kinda makes me want to play zerg I am sure it makes some other ppl who like to be the underdog be zerg as well.


And what do you think you're gonna get for THAT post?



Someone has to post that ... it makes no sense that i would be warned saying and that there are no zergs , and ppl think this game is balanced. That is what I said. I just find it funny that there is no zergs in this tourney. in korea or EU there is always a zerg in the finals or very close to the finals , in US there is no Zergs in the finals... just a statement.

"Its funny how no zergs are in here , and ppl still think this game is balanced ... lol"

Clearly that's not what you mean. Either take it to PM or face further punishment. You've already crapped in this thread once.



Your BOT wont let me PM him back, IT SAYS (Do not reply to this message. No one will receive it.) so how can I PM that? Well if im lying about that balance thing then i guess im dying.... notice how no one argued with me lol. I wont say another word about it... just wanna put my 2cents in thats all.


please just stop...yes you stated the obvious that there wasn't a zerg player but your intentions was to provoke the whole balance crap with your following remark after you stated there wasn't a zerg player competing...


WOW , no it was NOT to spark anything. I Said wat I had to say, the MOD knows i stopped this, and so does DIAMOND the only reason i am answering you is because u need to read the other posts i posted... and u didnt, its DONE over DONE over DONE1


User was temp banned for this post.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 08 2010 23:00 GMT
#2269
On October 09 2010 07:58 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 07:57 Dust14 wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:56 blade55555 wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:55 Dust14 wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:53 blade55555 wrote:
Suggy beat drewbie 2-1.

Does drewbie still advance no matter what?

Depends if that Huk vs Murder result on the ESL site is correct or not


No murder lost. I'm 99% sure that Drewbie still advances.

Murder lost 2-1.

There should be a 3-way tiebreaker then if Murder lost vs Huk


Murder did lose to HuK. I 100% guarantee this. 2-1 HuK


yup but there shouldn't be a 3 way tie.

Murder is 1-2 yes but his games went (0-2, 2-1, 1-2).

Drewbie is 1-2 but his went (2-0, 1-2, 1-2)

Suggy went 1-2 with (0-2, 1-2, 1-2)

Drewbie didn't lose as many games as suggy or murder so He should be advancing unless ESL is doing it differently.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
October 08 2010 23:00 GMT
#2270
Should be:

Huk VS QXC
Fenix VS Drewbie
Diablo 3 Blog Me & My Mom http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=336890
eohs
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States677 Posts
October 08 2010 23:01 GMT
#2271
I dont even think a PF is that imba to be honest, as I said kiwi could have simply just went by the gold took out the natural and gone for the RAX and FACTORY and then thrown money at the PF ... after expoing a few more times..
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Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 23:03:34
October 08 2010 23:02 GMT
#2272
On October 09 2010 07:57 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 07:56 blade55555 wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:55 Dust14 wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:53 blade55555 wrote:
Suggy beat drewbie 2-1.

Does drewbie still advance no matter what?

Depends if that Huk vs Murder result on the ESL site is correct or not


No murder lost. I'm 99% sure that Drewbie still advances.

Murder lost 2-1.


Correct, I'm going off match histories (as I am sure blade is also) not the ESL site.


Match histories aren't reliable, I mean HuK could have GG'd and then Murder left the game, the gg is the official surrender, not the leaving of the game.

Is there anyone at the event that can confirm the HuK/Murder results?
Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 23:04:57
October 08 2010 23:03 GMT
#2273
The player who leaves the game loses, not the one who GG's. Even if HuK GG's and Murder leaves, Murder would lose. But he's obviously not that dumb.

There won't be a 3WT for Group A. Drewbie's has better map difference.
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teacherWISH
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada111 Posts
October 08 2010 23:04 GMT
#2274
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 08 2010 23:05 GMT
#2275
On October 09 2010 08:02 Wargizmo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2010 07:57 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:56 blade55555 wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:55 Dust14 wrote:
On October 09 2010 07:53 blade55555 wrote:
Suggy beat drewbie 2-1.

Does drewbie still advance no matter what?

Depends if that Huk vs Murder result on the ESL site is correct or not


No murder lost. I'm 99% sure that Drewbie still advances.

Murder lost 2-1.


Correct, I'm going off match histories (as I am sure blade is also) not the ESL site.


Match histories aren't reliable, I mean HuK could have GG'd and then Murder left the game, the gg is the official surrender, not the leaving of the game.

Is there anyone at the event that can confirm the HuK/Murder results?


I even texted murder and he confirmed he lost. The match histories are correct.
When I think of something else, something will go here
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 23:06:05
October 08 2010 23:05 GMT
#2276
"Semi-finals tomorrow! - They will be qxc vs. HuK and Fenix vs. Drewbie!" from JoshShut
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 08 2010 23:06 GMT
#2277
So I predict we'll see Huk vs Fenix finals!
When I think of something else, something will go here
Vysage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States117 Posts
October 08 2010 23:07 GMT
#2278
So where are these replays at exactly?
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 08 2010 23:07 GMT
#2279
On October 09 2010 08:06 blade55555 wrote:
So I predict we'll see Huk vs Fenix finals!


I love Drewbie but I don't see him getting through Fenix in any way shape or form.

But if HuK tomorrow plays like he did today I think we could easily have a QXC vs. Fenix finals. That would be nuts.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-08 23:09:10
October 08 2010 23:07 GMT
#2280
On October 09 2010 08:03 GenoZStriker wrote:
The player who leaves the game loses, not the one who GG's. Even if HuK GG's and Murder leaves, Murder would lose. But he's obviously not that dumb.

There won't be a 3WT for Group A. Drewbie's has better map difference.


If you say so, but what about if there was a disconnect or something?

I would like to hear someone at the IEM venue confirm the result.

edit: read posts above, confirmed then. Look forward to tomorrows games.
Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
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