EPT[GSL] Open S1 - Ro32 Day 4 - Page 144
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bRuTaL!!
Finland588 Posts
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Rudiment
United States174 Posts
e: nvm, there's one other | ||
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Bleb
Croatia278 Posts
On September 20 2010 22:44 bRuTaL!! wrote: TLO interview is up on Gomtv.net! now if only gomtv was up as well : ) I've been refreshing it last 5 mins : ) | ||
Harem
United States11390 Posts
On September 20 2010 22:46 Rudiment wrote: Does this make Check the only zerg left? Cool is left too. | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
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qtpie
Canada16 Posts
the third game was kind of a let down for me, not because TLO lost, but because the method by which he lost. A proxy 7 rax is the kind of cheese I believe to be one decided at the toss of a coin. Had it been scouted i am sure it could've been stopped by an able player. Of course, not checking the mineral line is tlo's own fault and scouting the position last is lucky for dub, but from an observer's point of view that 7 rax build requires little to no skill. From a strategy point of view, a strategy that relies on your opponent doing something wrong and having perfect luck in random things such as spawning position or how the enemy scouts is, in my opinion, not a good or viable strategy. As a person who watches these matches for the interesting plays, this kind of strategic execution is some what of a disappointment. Considering how able both players were, there was no macro going on in the third game, there was no micro (balled up marine that isn't moving doesn't take that much microing I don't think), no such thing as unit composition, and he wasn't even brave enough to pull all SCVs in for a ballsy all in so the manliness factor doesn't come into play either. All points considered I don't see why that particular game can be considered well played. [edit] I don't consider all cheeses to require no skill, it's just that a few marines balled up standing there killing stuff isn't too particularly skill intensive... | ||
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
6pool, proxy hatch (so weak people never use it..), 2 gate, 2 proxy barracks, void rush | ||
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syldiivh
Denmark190 Posts
And no, it isn't a 25% success rate proxy, well it would be more reasonable to call it 33%, but it ain't that either. Hyperdub would adjust his build depending on how fast he scout's TLO. True, my point was just that TLO made him self vuln to this all in. Different depot placement would have helped him alot at the cost of a small risk of loosing it to siege later? Dunno imo thats a fair trade to not instant loose to this all in. edit: also if depot close to ramp + cross scout. Would almost eliminate any proxy build on tvt meta. | ||
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st3roids
Greece538 Posts
Tlo did cheese so many times in other games - do u seriously forget the 2 marine - marauder - hellion pushes ? Or the mass helions allins vs zergs or reaper harass vs zerg and so on ? He even pull the 2 proxy raks in dimaga - gimme a break is a valid strat. Im european as well but koreans are so much better in sc2 atm. also its not like david vs nexgenius - hyper won fair and square in macro game and was better in game 1 for he most part. Also cheese vs terran isnt the same like cheese vs a zerg player now is it ? ;p | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9018 Posts
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st3roids
Greece538 Posts
On September 20 2010 22:54 Garnet wrote: imagine if TLO was the cheeser instead of hyperduck. Creative ? ;p no doubht hell be back as better player he didnt even have time to practise | ||
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corpsepose
1678 Posts
On September 20 2010 22:54 Garnet wrote: imagine if TLO was the cheeser instead of hyperduck. i like 'hypernub' better, as suggested by a guy on the restream i was watching | ||
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Special Endrey
Germany1929 Posts
teh 3rd game is like normale cheese game - high risk high reward - it could have gone both ways - unfortunately TLO scouted the wrong direction 1st - and lost because of that | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
Playing to Win Part 1 by Sirlin Playing to Win Part 2 by Sirlin In a tournament like this, playing to win should always be a top priority of every player (or else why being a pro?) If you think cheesing would help you win easier, then just do it. It's not only for the winning sake, but it's for improving their own skill (at least micro) and judgment (should I pull cheese off this game). As long as it abide the rule, it's perfectly fine. | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
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n3gative
Canada369 Posts
It was an entertaining series, congrats to Hyperdub. | ||
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nasze_zrodlo
Cape Verde111 Posts
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shawabawa
United Kingdom417 Posts
http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens1/gomcam/1119 | ||
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KuroN3ko
Malaysia154 Posts
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