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Mods: Please do not delete or close this thread. I know the thread for Cup #1 is already up, but this thread would prove so useful for further organization, as well as tournament feedback. If you must, move it to an appropriate category. Thank you.
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Update: RISING CUP #2 is organized and ready to go! It will be held at the same time on September 11th. Visit the thread, and register!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=150563
CONGRATULATIONS to SETH (Somebody114) for winning the RISING Cup #1!
Compliments to finalist Alou too, although his cannon rush cost him the series.
Games casted can be found at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ragequit-tv. I may or may not be casting the semi-final and final games on youtube.
In any case stay tuned for RISING Cup #2, which will probably take place next week at the same time. However, there will be a cash prize! Watch for the thread, and, in the meantime, please answer the polls/questionnaire that will be sent to players shortly to make sure that the next tournament will be even better than the first. See you then. GL HF!
Visit the official RISING Cup #1 Thread at:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147669
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Update 3: The official RISING Cup #1 tournament thread has been created! Please visit, confirm any details, and support the event here. Thank you guys so much.
Update 2:Success! The spots are filled, a caster has been found, and everything looks like it's set to go. Stay tuned for the official [Gold] RISING Cup #1 thread! For those of you that just got here, I encourage you to sign up as back up, and to participate in future tournaments. Thanks for showing your interest!
Update: Because this is my first tournament, there are still a lot of things I am confused, or not that sure about. I think what will happen now is that we will hold a test tournament on Aug. 28 without a prize, and then the real tournament on Sept. 4.
This will satisfy both your eagerness to play (as demonstrated in the polls) and my need to test things out. No one should be discouraged though; Although it is truly a test run, RISING Cup #1 will most likely now be held on Aug. 28. I hope everyone can make it! GL HF.
Hello TeamLiquid!
I am trying to organize a Gold league and below tournament to happen in the next week or so on the NA server.The thing is, there is a lot of information I need before I can get some of the things set up. Because this tournament is for the community, I wanted to give everyone a chance to contribute their ideas before things like the name, casting, and event times are finalized. Therefore, this thread will serve as an organization post. With enough input, a new thread could be created, or the admins could be nice enough to change the title of this thread for me.
As far as I know right now, the tournament will be held on a single day either this weekend or the next. Depending on interest, it could range from a 16 - 32 - 64 player tournament. Rounds will start off as Bo1s, then move to Bo3s, and then a Bo5 for the finals. Results and replays will be emailed to RVRstarcraft@gmail.com for progression.
For the first tournament, the map-pool will be ladder only, with losers picking the next maps. Players have a chance to veto a map before their opponent picks. In the future, I would like to feature some player designed 1v1 maps. As this is an opportunity for the lower league players, it can also be an opportunity for good mapmakers as well.
There will be a possible $10 $20 prize (thanks Gunz!), but this is still being sorted out. In any case, I encourage everyone eligible to join!
I am currently looking for:
Casters to stream the event. Ohaicami is currently signed on, but the more the better.
Artists to design simple banners.
Sponsors to fund a prize! Any donations would be sincerely appreciated.
If you are interested in participating, please:
1) Vote in the polls.
2) Provide your b.net name, number, league, and race.
3) Have played at least 25 1v1 ladder games before registering.
4) Give any suggestions or feedback!
Preliminary List of Players:
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- Hoborg.538
- DeathEater.760
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- ORdeR.217
- Meapak_Ziphh.210
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- Mitosis.168 (might have a schedule conflict)
- NoNa.435
- BullMoose.869
- Gunz.971
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- Gemini.302
- Windstin.647
- ImSconed.756
- AnxietE.940
- Vysage.476
- Narett.313
- Harrissprt.177
- Tau.810
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- Undeinpirat.705
- Century.828
- nBk.425
- Rocko.632
- joeCash.345
- Bub.103
- Rock.156
- Seth.655
- Fattydakid.686
- Dngt.760
- Alou.986
- Caponed.407
- Signet.399
- Jude.889
- Justle.380
- David.197
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Back-up:
- eLiE.894
- Cthulhu.983
- BiOAtK.913
- GSang.868
- Scorcher.324
- Divine[aX].( )
- Bluefuzz's roommate ( )
- GGYouMake.( )
- NickNelson.513
Others have shown interest, but I don't know if they will actually be participating yet.
Please keep in mind that this is not the official sign up thread. Your place, however, will be reserved for 24 hours upon the creation of the official tournament,
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Polls:
What day of the week would you prefer to play?
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: What day of the week would you prefer to play?Saturday (36) 61% Sunday (16) 27% Wednesday (2) 3% Thursday (2) 3% Monday (1) 2% Tuesday (1) 2% Friday (1) 2% 59 total votes Your vote: What day of the week would you prefer to play? (Vote): Sunday
(Vote): Monday
(Vote): Tuesday
(Vote): Wednesday
(Vote): Thursday
(Vote): Friday
(Vote): Saturday
Is this Saturday okay, or should we wait until next Saturday?
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: Is this Saturday okay, or should we wait until next Saturday?Aug. 28 (24) 77% Sept. 04 (7) 23% 31 total votes Your vote: Is this Saturday okay, or should we wait until next Saturday? (Vote): Aug. 28
(Vote): Sept. 04
What time would you prefer to play? (PST)
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: What time would you prefer to play? (PST)6 pm - 9 pm (21) 49% 12 pm -3 pm (11) 26% 9 pm - 12 am (7) 16% 3 pm - 6 pm (3) 7% 12 am - 3 am (1) 2% Other: Please Specify (0) 0% (0) 0% 43 total votes Your vote: What time would you prefer to play? (PST) (Vote): 12 pm -3 pm
(Vote): 3 pm - 6 pm
(Vote): 6 pm - 9 pm
(Vote): 9 pm - 12 am
(Vote): 12 am - 3 am
(Vote): Other: Please Specify
(Vote):
How would you like the tournament to run?
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: How would you like the tournament to run?Live: Players must all check in and play at the same time. Finished in one day. Some games casted. (39) 98% Replay System: Paired opponents agree on a time to play. Slow progress, with no live stream. (1) 3% 40 total votes Your vote: How would you like the tournament to run? (Vote): Live: Players must all check in and play at the same time. Finished in one day. Some games casted.
(Vote): Replay System: Paired opponents agree on a time to play. Slow progress, with no live stream.
Should this tournament be called the Rising Cup?
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: What should this tournament be called?Rising Cup (29) 94% Other (please specify) (2) 6% 31 total votes Your vote: What should this tournament be called? (Vote): Rising Cup
(Vote): Other (please specify)
If you would like to see the initial post, please visit:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=147228
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The reason I am interested in creating this tournament is because I think the lower-leagued players on Team Liquid are underrepresented. People battling it out in balance threads might disagree, but I believe that the newer players have something to offer the community as well.
This haven has supported me when I just started out, and now I want to give back. There are way too few lower league tournaments out there. Newer players have no chance in the open tournaments either, as they are filled with Diamond and High Platinum players.
I believe that a tournament like this will encourage players to improve, and provide excitement for everyone as well. There are definitely people out there who aren't that good, but are eager to learn and improve. I solute you.
I put an introduction to myself at the very end, because it is truly the least relevant. I have been playing BW since 2002, but have never gotten too good at it, or taken it too seriously. After entering the SC2 beta by winning a t-shirt contest, I have set my goal to becoming a solid, consisted Diamond League player. I started out in the bronze league (back when there was a copper) in beta, moved to silver when the game was released, and am now in platinum.
You can contact me at karliath@gmail.com or in game with RiveR.469.
I hope this serves everyone well. Good luck, and have fun!
- Karliath
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I'm interested and would definitely sign up
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On August 26 2010 08:19 Gunz. wrote:
I'm interested and would definitely sign up
Great!
Please:
1) Vote in the polls.
2) Provide your b.net name, number, and league.
3) Have played at least 25 1v1 ladder games before registering.
4) Give any suggestions or feedback!
We have around 12 people right now.
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Sounds awesome. I'd like to participate.
BullMoose.869
And I'm in Gold league.
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gunz 971, gold league
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also we should throw some more money in the prize pool for fun. if this goes well and we have another id be up to donate
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DeathEater.760 Silver League Rank 3 ~550 points(http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1188234/1/DeathEater/)
Super excited, hope this works out well!
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On August 26 2010 08:30 Gunz. wrote:
we should throw some more money in the prize pool for fun. if this goes well and we have another id be up to donate
Haha that'd be great! Yeah, this is my first time hosting a tournament, so I'm just putting a little bit of my own money in there for incentive. I feel like some players, even looking at a "gold and below" tournament, may be a little intimidated. Anyways, it's a good amount, considering how some open tournaments have no prize money!
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i will throw in 10$ to the prize pool.
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ImSconed 756 Gold League
Race: Terran
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this is gonna be fun guys!
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Do you back out of you advance to plat? I may play if there isnt anything to do.
AnxietE.940
Gold
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Yeah I might do something.
Vysage.476 Gold
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On August 26 2010 09:07 AnxietE wrote:
Do you back out of you advance to plat? I may play if there isnt anything to do.
AnxietE.940
Gold
You must be under platinum upon registration, but you do not need to withdraw if you advance afterward. That said, please contact me asap if you do go up a league. I just have to confirm it.
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Poll: Is this Saturday okay, or should we wait until next Saturday?Aug. 28 (24) 77% Sept. 04 (7) 23% 31 total votes Your vote: Is this Saturday okay, or should we wait until next Saturday? (Vote): Aug. 28
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Silver League
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GGYouMake
IDK how to find it LOL
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Oh heh you don't have my identifier
MeapakZiphh
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I would like to join, though I would get destroyed hehe.
Yagzz.734
Bronze
Only thing I would suggest is that it span over two days, since I doubt everyone will be able to play at the designated time that it would be. I personally can never make it on Sundays, and this upcoming Saturday(8/28) is also unavailable for me.
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Nice name for the tournament. go ahead and sign me up
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On August 26 2010 15:09 Yagzz wrote:
I would like to join, though I would get destroyed hehe.
Yagzz.734
Bronze
Only thing I would suggest is that it span over two days, since I doubt everyone will be able to play at the designated time that it would be. I personally can never make it on Sundays, and this upcoming Saturday(8/28) is also unavailable for me.
Thanks for the feedback.
The thing is, spanning it over 2 days would mean that players would have to be able to play at 2 different designated times as well.
For example, if the Ro32 and 16 were on day 1, and the Ro8 and onwards were on day 2, players would 1) still have to be free on the first day 2) now have to be free on two days.
Also, since most people voted for this Saturday, that is when the tournament will probably happen. Don't worry though, we'll have more on the way! 
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This is a good question, and someone else has PMed me about it already.
The tournament rules are clear: you must be under platinum upon registration. Therefore, I do not have a fair right to remove you from the tournament, and you may participate if you wish.
That said, this issue does concern me, as I am looking for players who are "gold leveled and below" rather than "gold league and below." Indeed, players like you will probably have a higher chance of winning. In any case, how can I check that players are "gold leveled" in addition to being "gold leagued?" Do I look to see if they have a close win/lose ration? I don't know, that feels pretty foolish for me.
In any case, this tournament will remain as it is, but we may see fit to change it in the future. Thank you for bringing up the point.
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You can look at their match history and check their recent their opponents' rank.
I would also like to know why you didn't require players to choose a race.
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On August 26 2010 21:13 Somebody114 wrote:
You can look at their match history and check their recent their opponents' rank.
I would also like to know why you didn't require players to choose a race.
I can look at their recent opponents' ranks. However, what do I count? Do I only count wins, or losses too? What about players who have opponents from all over the different leagues? I know I've played people from all 5 leagues in the last week, for whatever reason. In any case, I don't see an efficient way that I can check up to 32 players' records.
I guess I should ask people for their races huh? That said, it really doesn't matter because you're still going to need to play them, you know what I mean? Finding out when the brackets are released vs perhaps 10 minutes before your game isn't going to make a big difference. I guess you could go off of avatars if you're curious  But yes, it is a good idea.
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Yeah it's a bit trickier limiting how good players can be for tournaments rather than picking from the best. I suppose league and w/l ratio would be your best bet. Say Gold or Lower with maximum of 60% wins for example.
Well with more inexperienced players, some players might try to pull a fast one and change their race at the last second. The other player could not notice and be put at a big disadvantage. It doesn't really matter to me though, I play Random.
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Sounds fun! :D
dngt 760
Silver league
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Alou 986 Gold.
If it's this Saturday I can't wait. I might be lucky enough to get a spot in LS Gamers Weekend Open which is 6 PM Est and I'm competing in Craft Cup earlier in the day, but I doubt that would interfere.
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Do you guys know of any casters that might be willing to cast the two events? Casters would mean more audience members and a sponsor (already in dealing), which would mean a bigger prize pool later on!
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6 pm - 9 pm PST would be equivalent to 9 pm - 12 am EST.
Right now, it looks as if the tournament will start at 7 pm PST and 10 pm EST.
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Signet.399
Gold league
Terran
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On August 27 2010 00:32 Karliath wrote:6 pm - 9 pm PST would be equivalent to 9 pm - 12 am EST. Right now, it looks as if the tournament will start at 7 pm PST and 10 pm EST.
Alright well if it's 7 EST there's a chance I might not be able to make it, so just keep that in mind if you decide to do it then.
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On August 27 2010 00:41 Caponed wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 00:32 Karliath wrote:6 pm - 9 pm PST would be equivalent to 9 pm - 12 am EST. Right now, it looks as if the tournament will start at 7 pm PST and 10 pm EST. Alright well if it's 7 EST there's a chance I might not be able to make it, so just keep that in mind if you decide to do it then.
Um it will probably start at 10 pm EST. Is that better or worse? haha.
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Since you asked for feedback, my one suggestion would be to have every round at least bo3. That way nobody's tourney experience is "lost to one proxy inbase, and done".... prob makes it less likely to be determined by chance. But take that suggestion with a grain of salt - I've literally never played a tourney before
I like that you're using the ladder maps, since we're all familiar with them.
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On August 27 2010 00:47 Signet wrote:Since you asked for feedback, my one suggestion would be to have every round at least bo3. That way nobody's tourney experience is "lost to one proxy inbase, and done".... prob makes it less likely to be determined by chance. But take that suggestion with a grain of salt - I've literally never played a tourney before I like that you're using the ladder maps, since we're all familiar with them.
The Ro32 will probably be Bo1, The Ro16, 8, and 4 will probably be Bo3, and the Finals will be Bo5.
The purpose for this is two-fold. One, the tournament will take much less time; it might get late for those playing on the East coast. Two, I have less games to cast on youtube (hehe).
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Wow, seeing all these people sign up im getting pretty stoked! should be awesome!
BTW, how will you be organizing it live? Will you have an irc channel for us to join?
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name is Jude
#889
Gold league
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justle.380
Gold
I'll be there!
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On August 27 2010 01:10 killanator wrote:
Wow, seeing all these people sign up im getting pretty stoked! should be awesome!
BTW, how will you be organizing it live? Will you have an irc channel for us to join?
Hmm to be honest I have no idea how to set up an IRC T_T.
Anyways, I figured how it would work was you:
- see who you play in the brackets
- email me the results and replay
- after results are confirmed, I will contact you through b.net about your next opponent
- once a lobby is formed, you will notify me, and I will give you the go ahead to start (the reason for this is that I might want you to wait a minute or two for a caster)
That being said, we really really need a caster right now guys!
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Hmm well it would be a lot easier and faster i think if we were all in one chatroom and we did it that way. perhaps a steam chatroom could work, but irc is easier as anyone can access it from their browser. This is how ive done it in previous tournaments and its pretty easy. everyone meets in irc, you tell us who to play, we meet up on bnet, we play, and if everyone is trustful they tell you who won and lost, usually people dont try to make a big deal out of that unless they are a douche. Also, instead of replays for confirmation you could just look at the match history on bnet and you can deduce from there who won.
Alternatively, i think we could all just add you on bnet and you could tell us who we are playing, but that could be quite hectic for you, especially when 64 people are messaging you at once asking who they play.
Either way, this would be a heck of a lot easier if bnet had chat channels...
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On August 27 2010 02:17 killanator wrote:
Hmm well it would be a lot easier and faster i think if we were all in one chatroom and we did it that way. perhaps a steam chatroom could work, but irc is easier as anyone can access it from their browser. This is how ive done it in previous tournaments and its pretty easy. everyone meets in irc, you tell us who to play, we meet up on bnet, we play, and if everyone is trustful they tell you who won and lost, usually people dont try to make a big deal out of that unless they are a douche. Also, instead of replays for confirmation you could just look at the match history on bnet and you can deduce from there who won.
Alternatively, i think we could all just add you on bnet and you could tell us who we are playing, but that could be quite hectic for you, especially when 64 people are messaging you at once asking who they play.
Either way, this would be a heck of a lot easier if bnet had chat channels...
B.net chat channels indeed... ><
One thing B.net DOES have is "invite to chat," so we could have a lot of people in it at the same time. That said, I don't actually know how many people can be in the chat at one time.
The reason I need replays is because I will be casting the games on Youtube. I will not actually be observing any of the games, except perhaps the finals, because I want to be easy to reach for all players. If we get a caster, he will be observing of course.
Anyways, I'll look into IRC, thanks.
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Oh alright, I thought you were only casting the semifinals and finals but I understand now.
IRC isnt necessary, but it would certainly speed up the tournament and make it a lot easier for you to organize.
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Scorcher.324
gold
protoss
I can not say if I would be a good caster or not but I would be happy to help out with trying to get a stream up or something if needed. Someone with experience would be a much better candidate though.
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lol how do u know if sum1's nuked their account to take the prize?
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On August 27 2010 02:57 me_viet wrote:
lol how do u know if sum1's nuked their account to take the prize?
The first tournament will not have a prize. I trust people on TL in general, but it will be up to their opponents to take a quick peek into their match histories and check that nothing is overly suspicious. In any case, it's actually pretty hard to move from league to league within one week, massing losses or not.
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Talk to the RageQuit TV guys. They're motto is Amateur Casting for Amateur Players so if they're free they may be up to it. (Ragequit.tv i think)
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On August 27 2010 00:45 Karliath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 00:41 Caponed wrote:On August 27 2010 00:32 Karliath wrote:6 pm - 9 pm PST would be equivalent to 9 pm - 12 am EST. Right now, it looks as if the tournament will start at 7 pm PST and 10 pm EST. Alright well if it's 7 EST there's a chance I might not be able to make it, so just keep that in mind if you decide to do it then. Um it will probably start at 10 pm EST. Is that better or worse? haha.
10pm EST is a lot better
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Success! The spots are filled, a streamer (not necessarily a caster lols) has been found, and everything looks like it's set to go. Stay tuned for the official [Gold] RISING Cup #1 thread! For those of you that just got here, I encourage you to sign up as back up, and to participate in future tournaments. Thanks for showing your interest!
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On August 27 2010 03:07 Alou wrote:
Talk to the RageQuit TV guys. They're motto is Amateur Casting for Amateur Players so if they're free they may be up to it. (Ragequit.tv i think)
I put up a message at their IRC. Crickets so far haha.
In any case, we have a confirmed streamer, but he says he's not that much of a caster.
Edit: woot! Ipp might be doing it.
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Wow this is gonna be streamed? I'm kinda excited (for people to see how bad I am lol).
Is there an irc meetup?
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Thanks to Karliath for holding a tournament for "the rest of us!"
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On August 27 2010 03:35 Karliath wrote:
Success! The spots are filled, a streamer (not necessarily a caster lols) has been found, and everything looks like it's set to go. Stay tuned for the official [Gold] RISING Cup #1 thread! For those of you that just got here, I encourage you to sign up as back up, and to participate in future tournaments. Thanks for showing your interest!
Is your preliminary list in the OP currently updated?
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On August 27 2010 04:19 Signet wrote:
Wow this is gonna be streamed? I'm kinda excited (for people to see how bad I am lol).
Is there an irc meetup?
There is not, at the moment. I've never set one up - how easy is it to do so?
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On August 27 2010 05:16 Scorcher2k wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 03:35 Karliath wrote:
Success! The spots are filled, a streamer (not necessarily a caster lols) has been found, and everything looks like it's set to go. Stay tuned for the official [Gold] RISING Cup #1 thread! For those of you that just got here, I encourage you to sign up as back up, and to participate in future tournaments. Thanks for showing your interest! Is your preliminary list in the OP currently updated?
It is.
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On August 27 2010 05:23 Karliath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 05:16 Scorcher2k wrote:On August 27 2010 03:35 Karliath wrote:
Success! The spots are filled, a streamer (not necessarily a caster lols) has been found, and everything looks like it's set to go. Stay tuned for the official [Gold] RISING Cup #1 thread! For those of you that just got here, I encourage you to sign up as back up, and to participate in future tournaments. Thanks for showing your interest! Is your preliminary list in the OP currently updated? It is.
Can I be put on the backup list? My info post is the one right after David.
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Your poll lists preferred times to play, in PST ("Pacific Standard Time"). However, the US is currently on daylight savings time, so it should say PDT. I mention this just because it could pose a problem if people are using converters and/or live in a place that doesn't have daylight savings time (such as Japan).
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On August 27 2010 05:28 ikarigendo wrote:
Your poll lists preferred times to play, in PST ("Pacific Standard Time"). However, the US is currently on daylight savings time, so it should say PDT. I mention this just because it could pose a problem if people are using converters and/or live in a place that doesn't have daylight savings time (such as Japan).
Huh true enough. I didn't think it'd be a problem because its on the US servers, and everyone participating is probably in North America. That said, now with streams and everything, it's a good point.
To be frank, I didn't know if it was PST or PDT. I don't know when it ends, I don't know when it starts. All I know is that I lose an hour of sleep one night, and I get it back half a year later.
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Spring forward, fall back. Goes ahead 1 hour in Spring and back 1 hour in Fall.
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eLiE.894
Gold
Zerg
If there's any more room...
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I think the winner of this tournament most likely be a diamond skilled player in gold league.
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Backup -
Cthulhu.983
Zerg
Gold
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On August 27 2010 06:52 Aelfric wrote:
I think the winner of this tournament most likely be a diamond skilled player in gold league.
And hopefully not the Diamond league friend of the Gold player.
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On August 27 2010 06:58 Phyrion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 06:52 Aelfric wrote:
I think the winner of this tournament most likely be a diamond skilled player in gold league. And hopefully not the Diamond league friend of the Gold player.
if there is money, someone will cheat in one of those ways. I mean i don't think i would see a gold skilled player with lots of mistakes in the finals of this tournaments when there is even 20$ in the line.
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gsang
868
gold league
protoss
i hope a spot opens lol
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I'll stream it, PM me
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Update: The official RISING Cup #1 tournament thread has been created! Please visit, confirm any details, and support the event here. Thank you guys so much.
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There's always room for backups.
Please visit the official thread here.
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SypherZ.919
Gold league
Terran
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Hey this sounds really awesome I'd like to participate
Hayako.688
Gold league
Terran
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AdventofWurm
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Im in gold league and I would like to enter this tournament but it would need to be the weekend of the 30th
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sorry never mind about the date
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AdventofWurm, you're like three years late.
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Hi Im new here! i want to participate!
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I... I don't think this tournament is still going on?
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On October 06 2014 21:53 The_Templar wrote:
I... I don't think this tournament is still going on?
Someone should make a new one.
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On October 06 2014 22:21 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2014 21:53 The_Templar wrote:
I... I don't think this tournament is still going on? Someone should make a new one.
Yeah… this tournament was before my time but it looks interesting.
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