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On August 16 2010 14:54 G2Wolf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2010 14:52 revoN wrote:
Very unprofessional of the ESL. This will hurt you more than it'll hurt IdrA in the long run. It was unprofessional to give IdrA multiple warnings instead of following our own penalty procedure for the multiple times he's broken our rules, he should have about 10 PP by now instead of just 4. He doesn't want to follow our rules, he's no longer allowed in our cups.
How did an incompetent fool like you become 'National ESL Admin' ? Did your boss hire a PR firm to write that statement?
When has idra broken the rules? List them out for everyone to see. I'd be willing to bet that other players have broken the "rules" as well.
Your explanation stinks to high heaven. Jesus christ, poor damage control.
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This is why e-sports isn't taken seriously, the people trying to run it are children. Do you know how much more of a benefit you would get in the long run if you let IdrA play the whole way through? Do you guys (ESL guys) even think rationally about this stuff, or are you just going based off pure emotion? Such a shame...
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This is pretty interesting but I think its dumb to ban Idra now after he has played through the whole tournament but whatever think it hurts you guys more then him.
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On August 16 2010 14:59 thesighter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2010 14:54 G2Wolf wrote:On August 16 2010 14:52 revoN wrote:
Very unprofessional of the ESL. This will hurt you more than it'll hurt IdrA in the long run. It was unprofessional to give IdrA multiple warnings instead of following our own penalty procedure for the multiple times he's broken our rules, he should have about 10 PP by now instead of just 4. He doesn't want to follow our rules, he's no longer allowed in our cups. How did an incompetent fool like you become 'National ESL Admin' ? Did your boss hire a PR firm to write that statement? When has idra broken the rules? List them out for everyone to see. I'd be willing to bet that other players have broken the "rules" as well. Your explanation stinks to high heaven. Jesus christ, poor damage control.
Over the line, :/ try running something like a big tournament they are running I ran tournaments for 3+ years on PGTour and iCCup it's not easy so as a fellow tour admin drop the insults plz it's very hard.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On August 16 2010 14:54 G2Wolf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2010 14:52 revoN wrote:
Very unprofessional of the ESL. This will hurt you more than it'll hurt IdrA in the long run. It was unprofessional to give IdrA multiple warnings instead of following our own penalty procedure for the multiple times he's broken our rules, he should have about 10 PP by now instead of just 4. He doesn't want to follow our rules, he's no longer allowed in our cups.
Again, what was the "straw that broke the camel's back" here? I don't understand why Idra gets banned now. Was the reason Idra getting pissed at one of your admin's incompetence? Did he use too many mean words?
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<G2Wolff> boohoo, i has a whole 1 week ban
<--| G2Wolff has left #teamliquid
Nice.
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On August 16 2010 14:54 G2Wolf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2010 14:52 revoN wrote:
Very unprofessional of the ESL. This will hurt you more than it'll hurt IdrA in the long run. It was unprofessional to give IdrA multiple warnings instead of following our own penalty procedure for the multiple times he's broken our rules, he should have about 10 PP by now instead of just 4. He doesn't want to follow our rules, he's no longer allowed in our cups.
It is even worse to suddenly go back to "following the rules" the moment it becomes expedient.
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On August 16 2010 15:01 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2010 14:54 G2Wolf wrote:On August 16 2010 14:52 revoN wrote:
Very unprofessional of the ESL. This will hurt you more than it'll hurt IdrA in the long run. It was unprofessional to give IdrA multiple warnings instead of following our own penalty procedure for the multiple times he's broken our rules, he should have about 10 PP by now instead of just 4. He doesn't want to follow our rules, he's no longer allowed in our cups. Again, what was the "straw that broke the camel's back" here? I don't understand why Idra gets banned now. Was the reason Idra getting pissed at one of your admin's incompetence? Did he use too many mean words?
Yea we should just let idra swear and bm as much as he wants that's how real professional tournaments are run.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On August 16 2010 15:03 psion0011 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2010 15:01 motbob wrote:On August 16 2010 14:54 G2Wolf wrote:On August 16 2010 14:52 revoN wrote:
Very unprofessional of the ESL. This will hurt you more than it'll hurt IdrA in the long run. It was unprofessional to give IdrA multiple warnings instead of following our own penalty procedure for the multiple times he's broken our rules, he should have about 10 PP by now instead of just 4. He doesn't want to follow our rules, he's no longer allowed in our cups. Again, what was the "straw that broke the camel's back" here? I don't understand why Idra gets banned now. Was the reason Idra getting pissed at one of your admin's incompetence? Did he use too many mean words? Yea we should just let idra swear and bm as much as he wants that's how real professional tournaments are run.
This is just invective and it doesn't answer my question.
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Honestly, I don't know why esl won't just man up and say they were wrong, allow Idra back and just say they will have a 0 tolerance policy for anymore BM from Idra. It would be the most beneficial for both sides.
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2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
They made a mistake and now they are trying to place the blame on IdrA with past events. Sounds pretty childish to me. If he was breaking all those rules early on, he should have been banned then, not now when it's convenient for them.
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On August 16 2010 15:02 Yotsuba wrote:
<G2Wolff> boohoo, i has a whole 1 week ban
<--| G2Wolff has left #teamliquid
Nice.
Beef's earlier posted said season, which would be the main reason for people's outrage. If it's a 1 week ban, while still ultimately the wrong decision in this instance, that is at least not ridiculous to the point of absurdity.
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Artosis
United States2140 Posts
10$ says psion0011 knows G2Wolf irlz
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This Idra ban sends me into such a fucking rage. This tournament is a joke if Idra doesn't get a spot.
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On August 16 2010 15:03 psion0011 wrote:
Yea we should just let idra swear and bm as much as he wants that's how real professional tournaments are run.
Professional tournaments don't screw over players and then enforce rules when convenient.
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I'll never cease to be amazed by how thin skinned many people in the starcraft community are. More evidence to throw on the pile for ESL being garbage.
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On August 16 2010 15:05 Artosis wrote:
10$ says psion0011 knows G2Wolf irlz
You just lost 10 bucks buddy now you can't even afford tonight's ramen 
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On August 16 2010 15:05 I_Love_Bacon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2010 15:02 Yotsuba wrote:
<G2Wolff> boohoo, i has a whole 1 week ban
<--| G2Wolff has left #teamliquid
Nice. Beef's earlier posted said season, which would be the main reason for people's outrage. If it's a 1 week ban, while still ultimately the wrong decision in this instance, that is at least not ridiculous to the point of absurdity.
Regardless, a 1 week ban removing him from a huge tournament would still be enough to justify a season long TL boycott of ESL.
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Idra is clearly taking abuse from ESL. This is just ridiculous.
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