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roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
August 16 2010 05:34 GMT
#661
IDRA IS PLAYING IN ONE HOUR???


STOP THE PRESSES!!!

WHO IS CASTING THIS???
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 16 2010 05:35 GMT
#662
On August 16 2010 14:33 Warrior Madness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 14:26 Sqq wrote:
I don't see the problem at all. If he bad mouths fine, but it should in no way lead to a season ban. He even said he would play ? As stated before ESL has a so and so reputation already, they are just adding to their woes. I just hope they go back on this and try and run a good tournament instead of trying to run something that is starting to look like a power game. ESL screwed up with the guy who cheated, I understand IdrA would be annoyed specially when they didn't inform him right off the bat ?


I agree here. Everyone will see this as an ESL screw up if tonight they don't have a rematch as Idra requested. If you lose the best player in the world due to your own lack of organization, then that is a pretty big screw up.


At the very least they'd need a new banner.
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G2Wolf
Profile Joined July 2010
United States261 Posts
August 16 2010 05:35 GMT
#663
On August 16 2010 14:31 stafu wrote:
I'm not exactly a fan of IdrA, but I can completely understand where he's coming from here. It's the admins' responsibility to keep track of stuff like this, and even more so to keep everyone involved informed of what's going on. The fact that IdrA wasn't even aware of the situation until Last Shadow informed him via MSN says a lot.

I would've contacted Idra but he was offline on bnet and on the site. His msn information is not on his profile and he's not on irc.
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Darkside-
Profile Joined March 2010
United States52 Posts
August 16 2010 05:36 GMT
#664
What a surprise, acting like a cock has consequences.
I find your lack of faith disturbing
Aeroz135
Profile Joined August 2010
48 Posts
August 16 2010 05:36 GMT
#665
On August 16 2010 14:23 Tiorda wrote:
I think it's funny that everyone jumps on the IdrA hatetrain when 3,000+ viewers saw BigT basically taunting and berating IdrA and when it came time for BigT to ask IdrA to cast his game he expected IdrA to say, "YEAH BRO!" after he gave him shit for a good two minutes in in game private messages. I'm not an IdrA apologist, but it's not like the streamer showed much professionalism in asking for a cast, regardless if BigT talked to Beef before hand or not.

On stream-chat, a lot of viewers were asking BigT to just stop whispering IdrA but he kept digging his grave instead of letting tournament organizers take care of it. I really don't want to give BigT too much shit, because he does a really good job when he's casting, but if you want to shoutcast matches with topnotch pros, especially ones as polarizing as IdrA (because obviously it's more viewership for you as well), act like a professional.

If someone had just spent a good few minutes BSing me and then asking for a cast I would have said to "f off" as well....not that anyone would want to watch my games =]


gotta say i agree 100% with this post, i mean come on we all appreciated the casting and stream by BigT however i thought it was kinda wrong to taunt him as well and later just say "i was just jokin guys LOL RELAX"
CaptnIgnit
Profile Joined May 2010
United States192 Posts
August 16 2010 05:37 GMT
#666
I don't know the rules offhand, but the fact that he's already played the matches and is being punished because ESL fucked up (through no fault of his own) leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Further, ESL should be apologizing and accept a little heat from IdrA because you guys are basically screwing him.
thesighter
Profile Joined July 2010
United States347 Posts
August 16 2010 05:40 GMT
#667
Agree, TL should boycott ESL. Their lack of organization and overall incompetence is pathetic.
Good luck, no reason top players should waste time with your prize-less tourneys.
groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
August 16 2010 05:40 GMT
#668
I think this whole situation is pretty lame for both the admins and the players. However the best thing to do is just play out the games and try to avoid these kind of things in the future. Hopefully they will do more to organize the tournament better next time. It is quite a large tournament and there are only so many admins. (maybe they should get some more?)
I have a recurring dream that I'm running away from a terran player but the marauders keep slowing me down. - Artosis
G2Wolf
Profile Joined July 2010
United States261 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 05:41:45
August 16 2010 05:40 GMT
#669
On August 16 2010 14:10 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
Before the incoming shit storm I read the IEM's rules there are situations laid down for awarding points for bad manner and insults.. think they can probably quote enough of those to back up the season ban. Anyways commence to go nuts.

He's already has his fair share of warnings each cup.

On August 16 2010 14:37 CaptnIgnit wrote:
I don't know the rules offhand, but the fact that he's already played the matches and is being punished because ESL fucked up (through no fault of his own) leaves a bad taste in my mouth..

He's being punished for everything else during this cup and the past 2 IEM Qualifiers. He's had his fair share of warnings and instead he continues to BM against players, casters, and admins. Protip: Telling an admin to f-off ingame doesn't go unpunished.

On August 16 2010 14:40 thesighter wrote:
Agree, TL should boycott ESL. Their lack of organization and overall incompetence is pathetic.
Good luck, no reason top players should waste time with your prize-less tourneys.

Yea, $100 dollar qualifiers, $2400 group stage, and $10k for the finals... definitely prize-less.
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groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
August 16 2010 05:41 GMT
#670
On August 16 2010 14:40 thesighter wrote:
Agree, TL should boycott ESL. Their lack of organization and overall incompetence is pathetic.
Good luck, no reason top players should waste time with your prize-less tourneys.

There is actually a prize pool that these players are competing for. Read OP.
I have a recurring dream that I'm running away from a terran player but the marauders keep slowing me down. - Artosis
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51591 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 05:42:24
August 16 2010 05:41 GMT
#671
On August 16 2010 14:40 thesighter wrote:
Agree, TL should boycott ESL. Their lack of organization and overall incompetence is pathetic.
Good luck, no reason top players should waste time with your prize-less tourneys.


the problem is you have to play in these prize-less cups to qualify for the cash tournament they are holding.
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Yotsuba
Profile Joined August 2010
7 Posts
August 16 2010 05:42 GMT
#672
On August 16 2010 14:36 Darkside- wrote:
What a surprise, acting like a cock has consequences.



I assume you're talking about IdrA? It's a shame that doesn't apply to bigT.

If you're being a cock and harassing a player, I think it's a fitting consequence that he doesn't allow you to cast his game.

But I guess you'd rather just blindly hate on IdrA.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
August 16 2010 05:43 GMT
#673
On August 16 2010 14:40 G2Wolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 14:10 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
Before the incoming shit storm I read the IEM's rules there are situations laid down for awarding points for bad manner and insults.. think they can probably quote enough of those to back up the season ban. Anyways commence to go nuts.

He's already has his fair share of warnings each cup.

Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 14:37 CaptnIgnit wrote:
I don't know the rules offhand, but the fact that he's already played the matches and is being punished because ESL fucked up (through no fault of his own) leaves a bad taste in my mouth..

He's being punished for everything else during this cup and the past 2 IEM Qualifiers. He's had his fair share of warnings and instead he continues to BM against players, casters, and admins. Protip: Telling an admin to f-off ingame doesn't go unpunished.

Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 14:40 thesighter wrote:
Agree, TL should boycott ESL. Their lack of organization and overall incompetence is pathetic.
Good luck, no reason top players should waste time with your prize-less tourneys.

Yea, $100 dollar qualifiers, $2400 group stage, and $10k for the finals... definitely prize-less.

and now you're just covering your ass, nothing happened today besides disallowing the caster first round, which i got penalty points for, and i then allowed him to cast later matches.
basically you guys fucked up and then disqualified me and are now saying it was because of past behavior, if thats the case why was i allowed to play at all today?
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Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
August 16 2010 05:43 GMT
#674
Well I guess I'm done watching esl. Used to watch them for other games too.

It's one thing to ban Idra for BM but it just seems like it is being done to cover the esl's huge mistake.
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
August 16 2010 05:43 GMT
#675
IdrA is a Professional Gamer on the Professional Gaming Team CJ Entus in Seoul, South Korea. He has a designated time to eat every single day of his life. If he misses this meal, he will not be able to eat.

IdrA agreed to play this match, despite it not in any way being his fault, but only after he ate.

He is now banned? Completely unjust and uncalled for.

"He's being punished for everything else during this cup and the past 2 IEM Qualifiers. He's had his fair share of warnings and instead he continues to BM against players, casters, and admins. Protip: Telling an admin to f-off ingame doesn't go unpunished."

Tell me what he's being punished for. This is an unprofessional post. You don't just ban someone because you are angry at them. You banned him for an unjust reason, and now you are trying to cover that up by saying you banned him for other reasons.

Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/Artosis
psion0011
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada720 Posts
August 16 2010 05:44 GMT
#676
On August 16 2010 14:42 Yotsuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 14:36 Darkside- wrote:
What a surprise, acting like a cock has consequences.



I assume you're talking about IdrA? It's a shame that doesn't apply to bigT.

If you're being a cock and harassing a player, I think it's a fitting consequence that he doesn't allow you to cast his game.

But I guess you'd rather just blindly hate on IdrA.

BigT being an ass doesn't magically absolve idra of being an ass.

Glad to see this done. Get idra out of the foreign progaming scene; what an embarrassment. The anti-boxer if you will in terms of star power.
Darkside-
Profile Joined March 2010
United States52 Posts
August 16 2010 05:46 GMT
#677
On August 16 2010 14:42 Yotsuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 14:36 Darkside- wrote:
What a surprise, acting like a cock has consequences.



I assume you're talking about IdrA? It's a shame that doesn't apply to bigT.

If you're being a cock and harassing a player, I think it's a fitting consequence that he doesn't allow you to cast his game.

But I guess you'd rather just blindly hate on IdrA.

Two wrongs, a right, yaddayadda.
I find your lack of faith disturbing
naventus
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1337 Posts
August 16 2010 05:47 GMT
#678
foreign starcraft and edrama are such jokes.

when there is real money, real sponsors (no thanks videocard/peripheral companies), and adults behind the scene, that's when it will be able to take off in the US.

until then, it's just attention whoring teenage edramaqueens fucking around. when was the last time we had a stable foreign game league (lol CPL, ESL). honestly, embarrassing.
hmm.
Yotsuba
Profile Joined August 2010
7 Posts
August 16 2010 05:49 GMT
#679
On August 16 2010 14:44 psion0011 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 14:42 Yotsuba wrote:
On August 16 2010 14:36 Darkside- wrote:
What a surprise, acting like a cock has consequences.



I assume you're talking about IdrA? It's a shame that doesn't apply to bigT.

If you're being a cock and harassing a player, I think it's a fitting consequence that he doesn't allow you to cast his game.

But I guess you'd rather just blindly hate on IdrA.

BigT being an ass doesn't magically absolve idra of being an ass.

Glad to see this done. Get idra out of the foreign progaming scene; what an embarrassment. The anti-boxer if you will in terms of star power.


Didn't say it absolved him at all. My point is IdrA was wrong, yes. But it wasn't like he was the only one at fault in the situation.

Overall, though, ESL is going to be taking the largest hit to its reputation. IdrA BMs. It's a fact of life. People were already expecting this. The blunder that the ESL made, however, is contrary to their image of being, well, organized. And again, I'm not defending IdrA. Just saying that when he goes off on people, it's not like it's going to make his reputation any worse. Stuff like this just gives him more press.
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 05:51:12
August 16 2010 05:50 GMT
#680
On August 16 2010 14:43 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 14:40 G2Wolf wrote:
On August 16 2010 14:10 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
Before the incoming shit storm I read the IEM's rules there are situations laid down for awarding points for bad manner and insults.. think they can probably quote enough of those to back up the season ban. Anyways commence to go nuts.

He's already has his fair share of warnings each cup.

On August 16 2010 14:37 CaptnIgnit wrote:
I don't know the rules offhand, but the fact that he's already played the matches and is being punished because ESL fucked up (through no fault of his own) leaves a bad taste in my mouth..

He's being punished for everything else during this cup and the past 2 IEM Qualifiers. He's had his fair share of warnings and instead he continues to BM against players, casters, and admins. Protip: Telling an admin to f-off ingame doesn't go unpunished.

On August 16 2010 14:40 thesighter wrote:
Agree, TL should boycott ESL. Their lack of organization and overall incompetence is pathetic.
Good luck, no reason top players should waste time with your prize-less tourneys.

Yea, $100 dollar qualifiers, $2400 group stage, and $10k for the finals... definitely prize-less.

and now you're just covering your ass, nothing happened today besides disallowing the caster first round, which i got penalty points for, and i then allowed him to cast later matches.
basically you guys fucked up and then disqualified me and are now saying it was because of past behavior, if thats the case why was i allowed to play at all today?



yeah what. i thought you agreed to play after lunch. they didn't let you?

again, i guess who cares since this tournament does not pay any money....

but yeah it aint your fault.....

and i hate these people who dont like bm between players. how gay. watching bm and rage typing between players is the best entertainment sc2 provides
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