Razer King of the Beta by Day[9] - Page 46

ckw

United States1018 Posts

July 20 2010 03:18 GMT

#901

On July 20 2010 12:16 figq wrote:
IdrA seemed to have a bit too much respect for his opponent, which made it look like Tester had much larger advantage than he really had.

You serious? Tester is way above Idra. Thats why these games ALWAYS end like this.

Arm4n

United States103 Posts

July 20 2010 03:19 GMT

#902

idra plays horribly vs koreans because he has a mental block about koreans being some type of god at strategy games. you can tell when you watch him play that hes not even playing nearly as good as he does vs anyone else.

tester, just played weird/bad in game one and idra gave up for no reason then in game two it was basically a repeat of altitude. also corruptors wouldn't have helped idra if you watched altitude his corruptor micro needs a lot of work.

i really don't think tester stands a chance in hell vs tlo cuz tlo doesn't care what country you're from or who you are and thats how you should play starcraft.

Azarkon

United States21060 Posts

July 20 2010 03:19 GMT

#903

Let's put it this way: I doubt Sen would've made the same mistake that IdrA did. I smell something fishy, but for the sake of not insulting the players, and because I do respect IdrA, I won't go further than this.

Acies

Australia196 Posts

July 20 2010 03:21 GMT

#904

My mouse is randomly disconnecting. If I buy one from razor is there some way I can make sure this tournament is recognised as a referrer?

Klogon

MURICA15980 Posts

July 20 2010 03:22 GMT

#905

Attacking and forcing Tester to reveal his initial Collossi before he got 4 would have changed the game completely.

Kiarip

United States1835 Posts

July 20 2010 03:22 GMT

#906

On July 20 2010 12:18 ckw wrote:

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You serious? Tester is way above Idra. Thats why these games ALWAYS end like this.

you're definitely qualified to say this.

pencilcase

United States330 Posts

July 20 2010 03:22 GMT

#907

On July 20 2010 12:19 Azarkon wrote:
Let's put it this way: I doubt Sen would've made the same mistake that IdrA did. I smell something fishy, but for the sake of not insulting the players, and because I do respect IdrA, I won't go further than this.

From what I've seen in Asian ZvP matches, it's all about Muta/Ling, so I think that a top Asian player would probably not have made any Hydras at all. I think this also explains Tester's odd Phoenix opening, as he probably expects most Zergs to go for a Spire and Mutas.

figq

12519 Posts

July 20 2010 03:24 GMT

#908

On July 20 2010 12:18 ckw wrote:

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You serious? Tester is way above Idra. Thats why these games ALWAYS end like this.

If you believe in formulas like player1 > player2 by default, then we have not much to talk about. Problem is IdrA looked like he believed the same as you, while he actually had the army to end it up before the colossi.

Kashimashi

Australia19 Posts

July 20 2010 03:24 GMT

#909

an overlord flying over the main would of given him all the info he needed.. was just a matter of making corruptors. Its very difficult to push the natural because forcefield would just cut the army in half. Idra was playing it right it was just terrible choice of army

Warrior Madness

Canada3791 Posts

July 20 2010 03:26 GMT

#910

On July 20 2010 12:22 pencilcase wrote:

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I've been dying to see Korean ZvP matches but they are scarce.... Do you have any links to any VODs of Cool or any other zerg's ZvP? I've seen a ton of ZvTs and I've adjust my own style to match their aggressiveness. I'm just looking for ZvPs now. I'm curious to see how they use mutas against phoenixes...

Azarkon

United States21060 Posts

July 20 2010 03:26 GMT

#911

The worst part I think is that he actually maxed out on hydras. I don't know what IdrA was planning to do with those hydras since he obviously wasn't attacking with them. So he was effectively just waiting to lose. That's the part I don't understand. Did he really think he could defend against multiple colossi with just hydras? Did he not scout Tester at all? That's not the IdrA I saw defeating Nony in the HDH.

Juaks

United States384 Posts

July 20 2010 03:27 GMT

#912

On July 20 2010 12:14 Day[9] wrote:
God you guys are SO nice. Thank you SO much for being supportive despite the technical messups. I've contacted UStream and, as always, they are helping me within 10 minutes lol. I'll get this all sorted out asap so there will be MAXIMUM STREAM QUALITY TOMORROW

Excellent job as always my friend. Thank you so much for doing your job. Chapeau.

pencilcase

United States330 Posts

July 20 2010 03:28 GMT

#913

On July 20 2010 12:26 Warrior Madness wrote:

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Well I saw a bunch of phase two matches that were linked to in this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136865
The site's in Korean and the video's require GOM player so it may take some effort to navigate. But if you search hard enough you will see some good matches. Specifically the earlier WTA qualifiers had a wide variety of players.

positron.

634 Posts

July 20 2010 03:29 GMT

#914

No wonder why Zerg has the least players on ladder. Force field should be taken out. It is ridiculous for a unit to be able to alter the terrain like that. Force field was not in BW and I can't see why it is a necessity in SC2. Zerg did not have many new units in SC2 and look at Protoss. They have both FFs and Colossi.

Warrior Madness

Canada3791 Posts

July 20 2010 03:29 GMT

#915

On July 20 2010 12:28 pencilcase wrote:

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Thanks. I also juuusttt found plexa's thread on muta ling.

pencilcase

United States330 Posts

July 20 2010 03:31 GMT

#916

On July 20 2010 12:26 Azarkon wrote:
The worst part I think is that he actually maxed out on hydras. I don't know what IdrA was planning to do with those hydras since he obviously wasn't attacking with them. So he was effectively just waiting to lose. That's the part I don't understand. Did he really think he could defend against multiple colossi with just hydras? Did he not scout Tester at all? That's not the IdrA I saw defeating Nony in the HDH.

Well you saw that when the attack came, Idra had taken the Gold expansion and was teching up to Hive. In addition, I'm pretty sure I remember Day saying that Idra was getting Melee upgrades. So I think his plan was to wait for Ultras and more economy to counter the Colossus. Ultras actually do really well against Colossus because of their insane damage against armored and force field destroying ability. I think Idra was banking on Tester not pushing out for a few more minutes, or his forces being able to hold off Tester's push long enough for the Ultras to finish the game.

Mobius

Canada1268 Posts

July 20 2010 03:32 GMT

#917

On July 20 2010 12:08 jax1492 wrote:

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no, its like the world cup pool play they all play each other once.

yay tyty :D

Juaks

United States384 Posts

July 20 2010 03:37 GMT

#918

On July 20 2010 09:25 Malgrif wrote:
my predictions are idra > tester 2-1 and qxc > white-ra 2-0, i think idra been practicing his brains off and i don't think anyone but tester can give him a run for his money, it'll be a great match up for sure! and i think qxc will beat white-ra just due to how strong terran is atm.

FAIL

All Quiet

United States62 Posts

July 20 2010 03:39 GMT

#919

The games were very impressive. The first one was won by old-school cheese, a hero zealot, and some nice forcefields. The second was won by nice force fields and clutch collossus. Tester was very excellent.