• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:59
CET 12:59
KST 20:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational10SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)19Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 will not be in the Esports World Cup Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Which foreign pros are considered the best? BW General Discussion BW AKA finder tool
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Navigating the Risks and Rew…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1792 users

TLO vs. White-Ra • July 14 - Rematch!!! - Page 10

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 8 9 10 All
Forsti.henning
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany220 Posts
July 14 2010 23:56 GMT
#181
My Playlist for this Event!

Sadly my CPU is all time at 100% so the sound was messed up today. Only god knows why it sucks sometimes and sometimes its fine...
warshop
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada490 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 01:25:13
July 15 2010 01:24 GMT
#182
On July 15 2010 03:40 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 03:34 figq wrote:
TLO - WhiteRa (list of games follows! Updated!)
+ Show Spoiler +
1-3 TLSC2I1
2-3 HDHI1
2-3 Fragster showmatch
4-1 9th July showmatch
4-0 14th July showmatch
----
13-10

Well, there is a clear curve in time towards the most recent matches getting better for TLO, while still White-Ra has advantage in the match score, which is 2-3.

Great post. I do want to note that I'm a big supporter of weighing the more important matches heavier. White-Ra has won TLI and HDH but I can't wait for them to meet in another big tournament after these series. Whoever wins the matches that matter the most has the more impressive heads-up results.


Indeed. I cannot believe the pressure (stress) of a showmatch is on the same level as a big tournament. Some players perform better under stress, while others is the complete opposite. But in the end, winning big tournaments is the ultimate prize.

Imagine where TLO's level of play will be in a year from now. I think we're all hoping for great things from him
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
July 15 2010 03:57 GMT
#183
I'm a fan of both TLO and white-ra, so I was just happy to see them play.

However, upon watching the replays from their first show match, an odd thought occured to me.

Was white-Ra drunk while playing?

Go back and watch the games with that in mind (the first showmatch). The random motherships, the weird void ray control, storming his own units. If someone asked me how I I thought White-Ra would play while drunk, I would've answered with exactly what he did.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm not entirely serious. Mad respect to both players.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
July 15 2010 04:35 GMT
#184
I just want to clarify that we did not run this whole thing; we did not put it together, contact the players, choose the maps, etc.

We tried to make it a dual cast at the last minute and weren't quite prepared when TLO and Whitera started the game. We were hoping to get a couple more minutes to set everything up but they were ready to go.

Sorry for any technical difficulties on our end.
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
July 15 2010 06:13 GMT
#185
On July 15 2010 13:35 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I just want to clarify that we did not run this whole thing; we did not put it together, contact the players, choose the maps, etc.

We tried to make it a dual cast at the last minute and weren't quite prepared when TLO and Whitera started the game. We were hoping to get a couple more minutes to set everything up but they were ready to go.

Sorry for any technical difficulties on our end.


np man you're still awesome !
But i didnt heard a "see you guys next time" at the end
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
July 15 2010 08:59 GMT
#186
I seem to be dissapointed with White-ra showmatches, he does pretty much always the same strategy every game, no major changes and as shown vs TLO 4-1 and then 4-0 gets caught out. He did play badly from what you can see in the replays with many mistakes so posibily he may of managed ot take a few games here and there but otherwise I was very dissapointed.
Live and Let Die!
HomerJ
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany106 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 10:36:41
July 15 2010 10:36 GMT
#187
On July 15 2010 07:53 Pandain wrote:
Any other vods up in different sites? HomerJ's doesn't work for me.


Maybe it was a conversion bug. Blip told me that conversion is done now! But remember, its a dualcast from Frosti and me in german - http://hdhomerj.blip.tv
phantomlorenz
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong5 Posts
July 16 2010 05:07 GMT
#188
all the vod are up in husky's channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/HuskyStarcraft#g/u

btw, you can subscribe youtube channels as rss like the following (just change the part of huskystarcarft to other users
http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api/users/huskystarcraft/uploads
automocc
Profile Joined April 2010
United States40 Posts
July 16 2010 05:11 GMT
#189
WhiteRa seriously needs to work on a few new builds for PvT. It seems like he used a voidray (unsuccessfully) every single game in both showmatches. It was just much worse the first showmatch due to latency. TLO's TvP, on lost temple at least, appeared to be very solid, especially the second showmatch. TLO showed some crazy marine micro, I really didn't know they could be that effective against P without mauraders.
st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 12:40:08
July 17 2010 11:55 GMT
#190
Um toss is so limited vs terran at this stage imo he cant do much,

He can try what , early ht + collossi ? Takes up ridiculusly amounts of gas to do this while terran can just rush you with steam marines and few marauders and totally win.

What exactly can do fast enough apart massing stalkers at the beginning , maybe add more sentries but that too takes too much gas , you cant have early on.


---- Third game , im a bit of curius , i mean first thing you learn as a noob in sc2 always try to scout.

Ra is in advance position at a point , but he just doesnt scout , tlo uses the superior terran macro to pump some fast cash and mass Battle cruisers.

If had scouted he could have counter this easy rly not a good play there from ra .




---------seen 4th game as well.

common siege tanks are a cheat esp with some suvs repairing them vs toss
Acidlineup
Profile Joined April 2010
123 Posts
July 17 2010 12:41 GMT
#191
On July 17 2010 20:55 st3roids wrote:
Um toss is so limited vs terran at this stage imo he cant do much,

He can try what , early ht + collossi ? Takes up ridiculusly amounts of gas to do this while terran can just rush you with steam marines and few marauders and totally win.

What exactly can do fast enough apart massing stalkers at the beginning , maybe add more sentries but that too takes too much gas , you cant have early on.


---- Third game , im a bit of curius , i mean first thing you learn as a noob in sc2 always try to scout.

Ra is in advance position at a point , but he just doesnt scout , tlo uses the superior terran macro to pump some fast cash and mass Battle cruisers.

If had scouted he could have counter this easy rly not a good play there from ra .


What are u talking about? He DID scout them. Didnt u saw all thoose voidrays he was massing?
The problem is voidrays dont counter bcruisers if they have a yamato cannon wich is kinda... there is no unit now in protoss arsenal to counter BC's if they have yamato.
system failure...
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 17 2010 12:54 GMT
#192
On July 17 2010 21:41 Acidlineup wrote:
there is no unit now in protoss arsenal to counter BC's if they have yamato.
blinking stalkers? feedback? hmmm..
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
July 17 2010 17:03 GMT
#193
Um he had like 4-5 vrays vs 5-6 bcs , he always had some vrays up in that game anyway, maybe he scouted but i dont think that he did it in time.
wikitiki
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4 Posts
July 18 2010 01:45 GMT
#194
On July 16 2010 14:11 automocc wrote:
TLO showed some crazy marine micro, I really didn't know they could be that effective against P without mauraders.


Yeah I think this is one of the reasons that this is giving White Ra so much trouble. TLO is just so efficient with marines that even when White Ra gains a strategic advantage TLO is still able to macro well enough to stay in the game.

Game 4 was a blast! I hope they continue to build up this 'rivalry' because they are such a dynamic matchup.
st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
July 18 2010 03:09 GMT
#195
Sorry to break it to you but if the first unit of a race can hold up against everything that a protoss throws to them ( or almost anything ) there is something wrong here.

also it were the siege tanks that won , apart that game 3 which outsmarted ra and used bc's


Btw this http://sc2casts.com/cast82-NaNi-vs-TheLittleOne-Best-of-3-GLHF.it-Invitational-Quater-Finals Is what would have happened if Ra didnt used vray or air at start ,

streamrolled from mass marauders ,
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
July 18 2010 20:26 GMT
#196
All four games were nothing short of amazing. TLO showed us his bag of tricks, did something else every game.
here i am
Prev 1 8 9 10 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
11:00
Season 13 World Championship
herO vs ClemLIVE!
Cure vs TBD
Solar vs TBD
Classic vs TBD
WardiTV704
IndyStarCraft 145
LiquipediaDiscussion
RongYI Cup
11:00
Group A
ByuN vs TriGGeR
herO vs Rogue
RotterdaM498
Harstem173
Rex113
BRAT_OK 89
3DClanTV 58
CosmosSc2 4
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 498
Harstem 173
IndyStarCraft 145
Rex 113
BRAT_OK 89
CosmosSc2 4
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2756
Rain 1875
GuemChi 1428
BeSt 849
Horang2 743
Hyuk 520
Stork 440
Mini 285
Soma 281
Larva 239
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 199
ggaemo 194
Last 178
Zeus 137
Mong 122
hero 115
Snow 112
Hyun 105
Killer 80
Backho 69
Sharp 61
Mind 56
Barracks 51
Shinee 48
soO 46
Movie 45
Shuttle 42
ToSsGirL 34
Bale 33
Yoon 25
[sc1f]eonzerg 22
ajuk12(nOOB) 19
910 17
Noble 16
zelot 15
Free 14
GoRush 11
Terrorterran 3
Dota 2
XcaliburYe394
NeuroSwarm108
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1909
x6flipin567
byalli289
allub235
shoxiejesuss31
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi1315
B2W.Neo1041
crisheroes299
XaKoH 172
Hui .132
Mew2King97
ToD88
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick892
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 25
• naamasc210
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1486
Upcoming Events
RongYI Cup
23h 1m
Clem vs ShoWTimE
Zoun vs Bunny
Big Brain Bouts
1d 5h
Serral vs TBD
RongYI Cup
1d 23h
SHIN vs Creator
Classic vs Percival
OSC
2 days
BSL 21
2 days
RongYI Cup
2 days
Maru vs Cyan
Solar vs Krystianer
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL 21
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-20
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Rongyi Cup S3
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.