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TLO vs. White-Ra • July 14 - Rematch!!! - Page 10

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Forsti.henning
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany220 Posts
July 14 2010 23:56 GMT
#181
My Playlist for this Event!

Sadly my CPU is all time at 100% so the sound was messed up today. Only god knows why it sucks sometimes and sometimes its fine...
warshop
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada490 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 01:25:13
July 15 2010 01:24 GMT
#182
On July 15 2010 03:40 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 03:34 figq wrote:
TLO - WhiteRa (list of games follows! Updated!)
+ Show Spoiler +
1-3 TLSC2I1
2-3 HDHI1
2-3 Fragster showmatch
4-1 9th July showmatch
4-0 14th July showmatch
----
13-10

Well, there is a clear curve in time towards the most recent matches getting better for TLO, while still White-Ra has advantage in the match score, which is 2-3.

Great post. I do want to note that I'm a big supporter of weighing the more important matches heavier. White-Ra has won TLI and HDH but I can't wait for them to meet in another big tournament after these series. Whoever wins the matches that matter the most has the more impressive heads-up results.


Indeed. I cannot believe the pressure (stress) of a showmatch is on the same level as a big tournament. Some players perform better under stress, while others is the complete opposite. But in the end, winning big tournaments is the ultimate prize.

Imagine where TLO's level of play will be in a year from now. I think we're all hoping for great things from him
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
July 15 2010 03:57 GMT
#183
I'm a fan of both TLO and white-ra, so I was just happy to see them play.

However, upon watching the replays from their first show match, an odd thought occured to me.

Was white-Ra drunk while playing?

Go back and watch the games with that in mind (the first showmatch). The random motherships, the weird void ray control, storming his own units. If someone asked me how I I thought White-Ra would play while drunk, I would've answered with exactly what he did.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm not entirely serious. Mad respect to both players.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
July 15 2010 04:35 GMT
#184
I just want to clarify that we did not run this whole thing; we did not put it together, contact the players, choose the maps, etc.

We tried to make it a dual cast at the last minute and weren't quite prepared when TLO and Whitera started the game. We were hoping to get a couple more minutes to set everything up but they were ready to go.

Sorry for any technical difficulties on our end.
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
July 15 2010 06:13 GMT
#185
On July 15 2010 13:35 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I just want to clarify that we did not run this whole thing; we did not put it together, contact the players, choose the maps, etc.

We tried to make it a dual cast at the last minute and weren't quite prepared when TLO and Whitera started the game. We were hoping to get a couple more minutes to set everything up but they were ready to go.

Sorry for any technical difficulties on our end.


np man you're still awesome !
But i didnt heard a "see you guys next time" at the end
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
July 15 2010 08:59 GMT
#186
I seem to be dissapointed with White-ra showmatches, he does pretty much always the same strategy every game, no major changes and as shown vs TLO 4-1 and then 4-0 gets caught out. He did play badly from what you can see in the replays with many mistakes so posibily he may of managed ot take a few games here and there but otherwise I was very dissapointed.
Live and Let Die!
HomerJ
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany106 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 10:36:41
July 15 2010 10:36 GMT
#187
On July 15 2010 07:53 Pandain wrote:
Any other vods up in different sites? HomerJ's doesn't work for me.


Maybe it was a conversion bug. Blip told me that conversion is done now! But remember, its a dualcast from Frosti and me in german - http://hdhomerj.blip.tv
phantomlorenz
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong5 Posts
July 16 2010 05:07 GMT
#188
all the vod are up in husky's channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/HuskyStarcraft#g/u

btw, you can subscribe youtube channels as rss like the following (just change the part of huskystarcarft to other users
http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api/users/huskystarcraft/uploads
automocc
Profile Joined April 2010
United States40 Posts
July 16 2010 05:11 GMT
#189
WhiteRa seriously needs to work on a few new builds for PvT. It seems like he used a voidray (unsuccessfully) every single game in both showmatches. It was just much worse the first showmatch due to latency. TLO's TvP, on lost temple at least, appeared to be very solid, especially the second showmatch. TLO showed some crazy marine micro, I really didn't know they could be that effective against P without mauraders.
st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 12:40:08
July 17 2010 11:55 GMT
#190
Um toss is so limited vs terran at this stage imo he cant do much,

He can try what , early ht + collossi ? Takes up ridiculusly amounts of gas to do this while terran can just rush you with steam marines and few marauders and totally win.

What exactly can do fast enough apart massing stalkers at the beginning , maybe add more sentries but that too takes too much gas , you cant have early on.


---- Third game , im a bit of curius , i mean first thing you learn as a noob in sc2 always try to scout.

Ra is in advance position at a point , but he just doesnt scout , tlo uses the superior terran macro to pump some fast cash and mass Battle cruisers.

If had scouted he could have counter this easy rly not a good play there from ra .




---------seen 4th game as well.

common siege tanks are a cheat esp with some suvs repairing them vs toss
Acidlineup
Profile Joined April 2010
123 Posts
July 17 2010 12:41 GMT
#191
On July 17 2010 20:55 st3roids wrote:
Um toss is so limited vs terran at this stage imo he cant do much,

He can try what , early ht + collossi ? Takes up ridiculusly amounts of gas to do this while terran can just rush you with steam marines and few marauders and totally win.

What exactly can do fast enough apart massing stalkers at the beginning , maybe add more sentries but that too takes too much gas , you cant have early on.


---- Third game , im a bit of curius , i mean first thing you learn as a noob in sc2 always try to scout.

Ra is in advance position at a point , but he just doesnt scout , tlo uses the superior terran macro to pump some fast cash and mass Battle cruisers.

If had scouted he could have counter this easy rly not a good play there from ra .


What are u talking about? He DID scout them. Didnt u saw all thoose voidrays he was massing?
The problem is voidrays dont counter bcruisers if they have a yamato cannon wich is kinda... there is no unit now in protoss arsenal to counter BC's if they have yamato.
system failure...
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 17 2010 12:54 GMT
#192
On July 17 2010 21:41 Acidlineup wrote:
there is no unit now in protoss arsenal to counter BC's if they have yamato.
blinking stalkers? feedback? hmmm..
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
July 17 2010 17:03 GMT
#193
Um he had like 4-5 vrays vs 5-6 bcs , he always had some vrays up in that game anyway, maybe he scouted but i dont think that he did it in time.
wikitiki
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4 Posts
July 18 2010 01:45 GMT
#194
On July 16 2010 14:11 automocc wrote:
TLO showed some crazy marine micro, I really didn't know they could be that effective against P without mauraders.


Yeah I think this is one of the reasons that this is giving White Ra so much trouble. TLO is just so efficient with marines that even when White Ra gains a strategic advantage TLO is still able to macro well enough to stay in the game.

Game 4 was a blast! I hope they continue to build up this 'rivalry' because they are such a dynamic matchup.
st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
July 18 2010 03:09 GMT
#195
Sorry to break it to you but if the first unit of a race can hold up against everything that a protoss throws to them ( or almost anything ) there is something wrong here.

also it were the siege tanks that won , apart that game 3 which outsmarted ra and used bc's


Btw this http://sc2casts.com/cast82-NaNi-vs-TheLittleOne-Best-of-3-GLHF.it-Invitational-Quater-Finals Is what would have happened if Ra didnt used vray or air at start ,

streamrolled from mass marauders ,
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
July 18 2010 20:26 GMT
#196
All four games were nothing short of amazing. TLO showed us his bag of tricks, did something else every game.
here i am
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