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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On May 21 2010 01:32 Sfydjklm wrote: oh dear you have contacts in other countries? Gee how did you manage to do that... *sigh* Read this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=126356 It's pretty obvious where Cezanne stands in the Korean scene. He's good, but not as good as some of the other Zergs in this tournament. | ||
Forsti.henning
Germany220 Posts
 thx! | ||
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epik640x
United States1134 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On May 21 2010 01:34 Azarkon wrote: *sigh* Read this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=126356 It's pretty obvious where Cezanne stands in the Korean scene. He's good, but not as good as some of the other Zergs in this tournament. u cant use it as ur source that poster has already recieved critisim for his rankings, not to doubt that they are nothing but subjective even if it wasnt the case. | ||
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cuppatea
United Kingdom1401 Posts
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Bane_
United Kingdom494 Posts
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koppik
United States676 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On May 21 2010 03:54 cuppatea wrote: Cezanne 3-0'd his group to qualify for this and then 3-0'd his group in this. He reached the final of the 1st ASM and is still going strong in the 2nd. He also has the highest win % in the top 200 of the Asian ladder. He doesn't seem like a "weaker Zerg" judging from that. Weaker Korean Zerg, not weaker Zerg in general. Here's the list of Korean Zergs in the tournament: Freedom (oGs) - Zerg Check (Prime) - Zerg 과일장수 (oGs) - Zerg - (Z)Cool Cezanne (Prime) - Zerg - (Z)ToSky Leeraeun (oGs) - Zerg - (Z)SiR@SoNi Zenio (oGs) - Zerg Out of this list, only Check can be considered weaker in general than Cezanne. oGs is the strongest clan in Korea from current clan war results. Each individual Zerg in this group also has more Korean tournament results under their belts than Cezanne. This is not saying that Cezanne sucks. He's just overshadowed by the more proven players in oGs. Of course, this tournament is a great opportunity for him to prove otherwise. I simply mentioned Cezzane to disagree with the other poster's claim that Dimaga is better than 90% of the people in this tournament. You can't say this when Dimaga has yet to win any Korean player in the tournament, and is also not better than every European player here (I'd say he's on par with White-Ra and weaker than TLO, at the moment, from tournament results alone). | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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Hansel
Germany311 Posts
Also Idra = :-((. Didnt show his best imho. | ||
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frumplejoon
United States129 Posts
On May 21 2010 01:23 Azarkon wrote: I don't know about that. The biggest problem with the US server is that we don't have a strong pro-league organization that can communicate with other pro-leagues, so our players do not get much exposure. In other words, we don't have many chances to demonstrate our strength or weakness. Certainly, our players have beaten top EU players before. For example, Nony beat Nazgul, and Huk was able to win the ESL. Not just that, NA players are just so maddeningly inconsistent. When playing at their best, I think NA's best can compete w/EU's best and maybe some of asia's, but too often they make critical mistakes like major bad decisions and micro/macro lapses. Slush also beat white ra in a bo9 in gosucoaching, but then got trounced by demuslim a week later. There are tons more examples of NA inconsistency if you watch the top players in tournys. Yeah EU/Asia's best have bad games too, but not on the same scale as NA's best D= I'd guess the order is something like NA <= EU <= Asia (or more like Korea + Sen) | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
It's kind of irritating to be left out, especially in a tournament as big as this one. Not that I'm particularly bothered by cheering for EU and Chinese and Korean players, but it just seems a huge waste of talent. Though, I'm sure this'll change post-release as Blizzard will be hosting some of their own tournaments, and large tourneys like the WCG will naturally have NA qualifiers. | ||
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Solaris.playgu
Sweden480 Posts
It is most likely as you say though, that one of the biggest reasons no us players were invited is the lack of a competitive establishment in the us (not saying there is none, just saying it doesn't get as much attention as the eu ones). This is also something that will change over time, as the game grows in popularity. | ||
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xephon
Canada38 Posts
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Terrakin
United States1440 Posts
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Forsti.henning
Germany220 Posts
good luck and have fun ! | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
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Turbotitan
China138 Posts
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koshka
Germany181 Posts
On May 21 2010 15:47 Forsti.henning wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=Forsti.henning good luck and have fun ! yeaa forsti stream nice music | ||
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Hansel
Germany311 Posts
On May 21 2010 15:47 Forsti.henning wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=Forsti.henning good luck and have fun ! Thx for stream, that Chinese site is unwatchable | ||
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