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holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
May 09 2010 01:13 GMT
#461
Dang, so much flaming going on. Congrats Slush for winning.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-09 01:15:00
May 09 2010 01:13 GMT
#462
On May 09 2010 10:08 Gnarg wrote:
Good call by the judges on the artosis-sludge issue imo. If Slush said he had a chance to win, and Artosis was the one who dced, it was the only right call to make.

I havent seen the replay, but if Slush really didnt have a chance on win the community will judge him accordingly. It severly discredits the validity of his TLI victory.


Slush is clearly very good since he beat all the other top players with the exception of Artosis in straight-up games. But to say that he stood a chance in the end of the third game is dubious.
Islandsnake
Profile Joined April 2009
United States679 Posts
May 09 2010 01:14 GMT
#463
GGs!!! Really enjoyed all the games today ^_^

I always look forward to TL hosted tournaments the most and this one didn't disappoint <3


Amazing commentary, Djwheat worked really well with both chill and day9 and I want to give extra props to chill, because I really enjoyed his commentary and was slightly sad to not see him switched back into the rotation. Having these great 3 guys casting made all the delays seem nonexistent and even entertaining haha "Make me host"

Gratz to Slush and all the other winners as well!

GGs
Bang!
DeMusliM
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom401 Posts
May 09 2010 01:15 GMT
#464
Gz to Slush,
But yeh, the 3rd game was over - Artosis disced roughly 20-30 secs before slush woulda called GG, weird/wrong decision by admins :S.
Psiven
Profile Joined May 2010
United States148 Posts
May 09 2010 01:16 GMT
#465
Regardless of the call, it's pretty clear who was bad mannered here and it wasn't Slush. Grats to him.
UltraVires
Profile Joined April 2010
United States241 Posts
May 09 2010 01:17 GMT
#466
On May 09 2010 10:06 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 09:44 UltraVires wrote:
On May 09 2010 09:43 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On May 09 2010 09:42 UltraVires wrote:
On May 09 2010 09:36 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On May 09 2010 09:07 HazMat wrote:
On May 09 2010 08:56 HuK wrote:
On May 09 2010 08:16 DeMusliM wrote:
HuK's use of voidray has been pretty poor in all of the games hes used them, i mean he had 2 void rays sat killing refinery scvs without charge, that could of done SOOOOOOOO much more damage if he just charged up on the cc for 5 secs - quite a big blunder



like ive stated before my cpu is completely shit and i dont want to make excuses or nething but it does hinder my ability to play at times (1 gig of ddr1 ram). and it doesnt help that im horrible with cpus

On May 09 2010 08:40 Liquid`NonY wrote:
lol @ huk saying well played, what an asshole!


? i wasnt being an asshole ? not trying to bad mannered or nething? dont get why u wont get off my dick

I think Nony was just joking.

well it is humorous but i meant what i said. louder was way ahead after killing the warp prism + 2 immortals and then he blew the game, said he fucked up, and huk's response is to say wp. if he actually means what he says with his wp bullshit, then it was a total asshole thing to say. could be he just hits enter wp enter enter gg enter like a fucking robot. anyway, yeah, this event lost credibility because of the artosis/slush thing.


The event lost credibility? I see things a differently....

As far as I'm concerned, Artosis lost credibility for freaking out and acting like a child. As Panzer said, even if it was a bad call, take it like a pro and move on.

And the tournament admins gained credibility for sticking to their guns and not letting Artosis proclaim himself the victor after dropping and then BM'ing....

Anyway just want to point out that "the event losses credibility" is not a necessary reading (or even the best reading, imo) of the Artosis/Slush controversy.

you just lost credibility


Mature dude, mature. Great to see senior members setting a good example


whaaaaaat? and you are acting more mature? haha

artosis doesn't lose credibility at all for anything. a player's role is to stick up for himself and make sure he doesnt get fucked over. he got fucked over before the decision was made because of how the situation was being handled and when the decision was made, he was definitely fucked over. if this shit was professional, you might not have the player himself going insane, instead you'd have the coaches/managers telling the player "stay calm and focused" while the coaches/managers go insane on the admins, as has happened in korea more than once

tournament admins gain credibility for sticking to the wrong decision? nooo

the event loses credibility because a player who won did not advance. nobody can take the results seriously because you don't know where artosis should be.

most of all, slush loses credibility. every top player who has looked at the game so far has said artosis wins 99%+ of the time. slush said that wasn't the case. this isn't slush sticking up for himself, but rather slush straight up lying to have a chance at an easy win.


Thanks for giving a respectful and reasoned response rather than a snippy "your opinion is wrong" response. It makes sense that we would have different expectations of artosis if he had coaches behind him.

Anyway i guess the issue turns on how bad the call was. I'm watching the replay now. Still, i put a lot more weight on the fact that it was artosis who dropped as a reason to grant a regame.


EnderW
Profile Joined March 2010
United States170 Posts
May 09 2010 01:17 GMT
#467
GG's guys, thx to everyone who put this together.

I do not personally think Slush should get any credit for winning this tournament, and I think that his character is questionable at best given that he lied through his teeth to get a cheap victory.

I hope it is at least acknowledged that this was/is not a proper outcome for this tournament.
Learn from the mistakes of others, because you wont live long enough to make them all yourself.
StewKer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States301 Posts
May 09 2010 01:20 GMT
#468
Would like to thank all the players for great games, organizers for getting this going and administrating and casters for covering the games. Great job by all I think!

Really enjoyed watching the tourney on DJwheat's stream with Day, Chill and DJwheat. Awesome shoutcasting and commentary, not to mention they did this the entire length of the tournament, a truly marathon stream. Much appreciated guys! This is what gives me hope for the future of SC2, people that are so passionate about it and eSports. I see nothing but good for the future of this scene.

Grats to Slush in his win in the grand finals.

Note: I have yet to look into the Artosis-Slush matches. But that withstanding, it was still a very good tournament from the perspective of the audience.
HerO Fan! || Coming back to SC2 is like finding an old friend!
positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
May 09 2010 01:20 GMT
#469
On May 09 2010 10:16 Psiven wrote:
Regardless of the call, it's pretty clear who was bad mannered here and it wasn't Slush. Grats to him.

So opposing wrong decision by the refs is bm now? If Artosis was only a bit ahead and disconnected then yea it should be regame otherwise people will start dc after taking a lead but why would Artosis want to dc in this case? He was about to win.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
May 09 2010 01:22 GMT
#470
On May 09 2010 10:20 positron. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 10:16 Psiven wrote:
Regardless of the call, it's pretty clear who was bad mannered here and it wasn't Slush. Grats to him.

So opposing wrong decision by the refs is bm now? If Artosis was only a bit ahead and disconnected then yea it should be regame otherwise people will start dc after taking a lead but why would Artosis want to dc in this case? He was about to win.


Artosis didn't DC on purpose...get your facts straight
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 09 2010 01:24 GMT
#471
Artosis v. Slush debates in this thread now please:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124298&currentpage=2
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
May 09 2010 01:30 GMT
#472
DJwheat is an amazing co caster. He doesn't have the deep knowledge, but he has other commentating skills unique to him. He is super funny, doesn't pronounce things like a retard (zerging), and when the time calls for it asks his co commentators for more insight.

Probably the most enjoyable commentating ever with day9/chill/ and DJwheat.
#1 Kwanro Fan
zTz
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States476 Posts
May 09 2010 01:31 GMT
#473
Artosis vs Cauthonluck in a GHOST Final? Sounds like something Everyone really is arguing to see...
where's the rants n flames section?
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
May 09 2010 01:32 GMT
#474
awesome games. a shame what hapenned with artosis case.
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
petey
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia9 Posts
May 09 2010 01:32 GMT
#475
Had a lot of fun. Great tournament, great casters. Shame about the questionable admin call. Shout out to DJ Wheat, Yawohl, rtcw in our hearts
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-09 01:38:52
May 09 2010 01:38 GMT
#476
GG Slush. Nice games against Louder and in the finals against Cauthonluck.

DJWheat is the fucking man! Keep up the good work man ^_^
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
May 09 2010 01:39 GMT
#477
so does anyone know how to make the creep black like that (like in the start of today's cast)
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Powda
Profile Joined February 2010
United States116 Posts
May 09 2010 01:42 GMT
#478
Where are these replays?
1a2a3a4a
damon2400
Profile Joined April 2009
United States172 Posts
May 09 2010 01:43 GMT
#479
Fun tourney guys thanks for all the work.
IaniAniaN
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada555 Posts
May 09 2010 01:44 GMT
#480
On May 09 2010 03:25 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 03:01 YunhOLee wrote:
my ro16 predictions:

Machine > Louder
qxc < NonY
Artosis > DAy[9]
iNcontroL < SLuSh
iNkA > PainUser
Huk > Orb
CauthonLuck > Tasteless
LzGamer > Attero


I agree with all of this except im gonna put INC over slush cuz ive never heard of him(so hopefully he isn't amazing).


Haha, and he goes very far.
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