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UltraVires
Profile Joined April 2010
United States241 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-09 00:58:22
May 09 2010 00:55 GMT
#421
On May 09 2010 09:50 teamsolid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 09:42 UltraVires wrote:
And the tournament admins gained credibility for sticking to their guns and not letting Artosis proclaim himself the victor after dropping and then BM'ing....

You don't "gain credibility" for sticking by a bad call. A ref in a sports game making a shitty call, and sticking by it does not give the ref greater credibility, actually if he does it often he'll probably lose his job. That's like saying Bush gained credibility for sticking by his shitty decisions when he was President.


I agree with this *if* it was truly a terrible call. I haven't watched the replay yet and im no expert, but if there even a remote chance that Slush could have won, regame has to be the right call, esp since it was Artosis who dropped. Certainly if it was Slush who had dropped we wouldnt be having this conversation right now.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 09 2010 00:55 GMT
#422
On May 09 2010 09:44 TaKemE wrote:
There is not much the judges can do when Slush wants a rematch when Artosis was the one who DCed.

You can tell from the chat between Artosis and SLush, that Slush knew he lost but he still wanted to rematch.


Slush either truly believed he could win with the mutas, or he didn't believe it but wanted an extra chance against Artosis.

*shrug*

I think if this were the MSL or OSL, the judges would've given Artosis the win. But TL's rules are different, so what can you do. IMO, Artosis could've handled it more stoically, but I could see why he broke down after suffering so many computer problems and being frustrated with his recent tournament results.
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
May 09 2010 00:59 GMT
#423
On May 09 2010 09:55 UltraVires wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 09:50 teamsolid wrote:
On May 09 2010 09:42 UltraVires wrote:
And the tournament admins gained credibility for sticking to their guns and not letting Artosis proclaim himself the victor after dropping and then BM'ing....

You don't "gain credibility" for sticking by a bad call. A ref in a sports game making a shitty call, and sticking by it does not give the ref greater credibility, actually if he does it often he'll probably lose his job. That's like saying Bush gained credibility for sticking by his shitty decisions when he was President.


I agree with this *if* it was truly a terrible call. I haven't watched the replay yet and im no expert, but if there was any remote chance that Slush could win, regame has to be the right call, esp since it was Artosis who dropped. Certainly if it was Slush who had dropped we wouldnt be having this conversation right now.


There was no chance Slush could win, non at all. It was a massive lead in bases and army by Artosis. Basically 2 mining bases vs no mining bases if the game lasted for 20 more seconds.
this game is a fucking jokie
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
May 09 2010 00:59 GMT
#424
On May 09 2010 09:55 UltraVires wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 09:50 teamsolid wrote:
On May 09 2010 09:42 UltraVires wrote:
And the tournament admins gained credibility for sticking to their guns and not letting Artosis proclaim himself the victor after dropping and then BM'ing....

You don't "gain credibility" for sticking by a bad call. A ref in a sports game making a shitty call, and sticking by it does not give the ref greater credibility, actually if he does it often he'll probably lose his job. That's like saying Bush gained credibility for sticking by his shitty decisions when he was President.


I agree with this *if* it was truly a terrible call. I haven't watched the replay yet and im no expert

IT WAS. I don't know why you have so much to say if you don't even understand the situation.
XtrEEmMaShEEN3k2
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States122 Posts
May 09 2010 00:59 GMT
#425
Think we should steer this conversation towards the current match on Kulas Ravine.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
May 09 2010 01:00 GMT
#426
What's the score in Slush/CL?
roughinator
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark5 Posts
May 09 2010 01:00 GMT
#427
On May 09 2010 09:49 disco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 09:45 roughinator wrote:
I think it should have been a restart for Artosis/Slush as anyone could d/c once in a while. Anyway you could say it's luck, but sometimes it's your internet provider.

Another point is that as we all have many pc's at home we can watch the Stream at the same time as participants play and they can just pretend that they're scouting :DD while they see the whole view + comments


Regame when there is no clear winner. This game there was a clear winner.. like crystal clear.


It doesn't matter, if you're better you'll win the second time as well.
People say nothing is imposible, but I do nothing every day.
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
May 09 2010 01:01 GMT
#428
A slush disconnect right now would be quite funny
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
May 09 2010 01:02 GMT
#429
Cathonluck should've been more aggressive... He waited too long. 50 to 30 drone disappirty even early on. sheesh
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
May 09 2010 01:02 GMT
#430
On May 09 2010 10:00 roughinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 09:49 disco wrote:
On May 09 2010 09:45 roughinator wrote:
I think it should have been a restart for Artosis/Slush as anyone could d/c once in a while. Anyway you could say it's luck, but sometimes it's your internet provider.

Another point is that as we all have many pc's at home we can watch the Stream at the same time as participants play and they can just pretend that they're scouting :DD while they see the whole view + comments


Regame when there is no clear winner. This game there was a clear winner.. like crystal clear.


It doesn't matter, if you're better you'll win the second time as well.

That's not quite how SC works.
shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
May 09 2010 01:02 GMT
#431
On May 09 2010 10:00 roughinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 09:49 disco wrote:
On May 09 2010 09:45 roughinator wrote:
I think it should have been a restart for Artosis/Slush as anyone could d/c once in a while. Anyway you could say it's luck, but sometimes it's your internet provider.

Another point is that as we all have many pc's at home we can watch the Stream at the same time as participants play and they can just pretend that they're scouting :DD while they see the whole view + comments


Regame when there is no clear winner. This game there was a clear winner.. like crystal clear.


It doesn't matter, if you're better you'll win the second time as well.


Generally when people are forced to play rematches they believe unfair, they play a lot worse due to their mental state of distress.
Be versatile, know when to retreat, and carry a big gun.
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
May 09 2010 01:02 GMT
#432
On May 09 2010 09:47 GTR wrote:
watching the stream, did i just see VOLCANO COME ONLINE?

THE VOLCANO FROM CS?


huh? zEx | Volcano? I used to play SC1 with that guy, do u kno his SC2 ID?
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
May 09 2010 01:02 GMT
#433
On May 09 2010 10:00 roughinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2010 09:49 disco wrote:
On May 09 2010 09:45 roughinator wrote:
I think it should have been a restart for Artosis/Slush as anyone could d/c once in a while. Anyway you could say it's luck, but sometimes it's your internet provider.

Another point is that as we all have many pc's at home we can watch the Stream at the same time as participants play and they can just pretend that they're scouting :DD while they see the whole view + comments


Regame when there is no clear winner. This game there was a clear winner.. like crystal clear.


It doesn't matter, if you're better you'll win the second time as well.


And ofcourse the mental setback by having to regame a win doesn't mean anything.
this game is a fucking jokie
roughinator
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark5 Posts
May 09 2010 01:02 GMT
#434
On May 09 2010 10:00 theqat wrote:
What's the score in Slush/CL?


+ Show Spoiler +
it's 2:1

slush won 3:1 GZ
People say nothing is imposible, but I do nothing every day.
vvvVec
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway85 Posts
May 09 2010 01:02 GMT
#435
GG, GJ Slush!
NeCroPoTeNce
Profile Joined July 2009
United States513 Posts
May 09 2010 01:03 GMT
#436
Great final game!
zerg all the way! Lee Jaedong hwaiting
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
May 09 2010 01:03 GMT
#437
Artosis must be furious right now..
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
XtrEEmMaShEEN3k2
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States122 Posts
May 09 2010 01:03 GMT
#438
And Slush wins. Good job, fantastic matches with Cauthun.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
May 09 2010 01:03 GMT
#439
Congrats Slush!
Lungdude
Profile Joined April 2010
United States14 Posts
May 09 2010 01:03 GMT
#440
GG GJ SLush!
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