Smuft's Team Battle Tourney - Page 36

On April 06 2010 12:51 Fayth wrote:
I'm a fairly competitive person too and I wouldn't care to know if I'd beat IdrA in a grudge match T_T

We may just as well be getting too old for this

On April 06 2010 12:24 Fayth wrote:

yes, but I can pay all my bills with this game, I can get kids and so on, you can't do anything except play more starcraft

On April 06 2010 08:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
There's no reason to say poker players are more mature. Besides having money and caring more about money there is no indication that they are more mature than anyone else whatsoever. You could argue that having a lot of money at a young age does a lot of various things to young people, for some they include maturing, for others it's the opposite.

The realization that you need to make money in life is something even the most broke person can come to. People good at gaming switching to poker to make money so they can continue not to get education and stick with more gaming is the opposite of what most of the world would describe as maturing. And that's coming from someone who never finished his education. It's just an entirely useless debate to bring up at all.

Smuft has every right to make a claim based on facts in the past it says nothing about whether he would want to take up a match in the future. There is without a doubt a difference in motivation to practice for a match that is about $500. Idra would play his ass off and Smuft might not care enough to do the same. Realizing that you are at a motivational disadvantage for this amount of money and offering to play for more is perfectly fine.

No idea why everyone desperately try to pick a side in this. Idra offered something and Smuft decided not to do it and no one is at fault for that.

On April 06 2010 13:15 MezmerizePLZ wrote:


QTF

sick hero nazgul

sick retards saying its a dodge LOL

On April 06 2010 13:09 StarcraftMaster wrote:
Idra has a huge opportunity. If i was in his position i would try to get a translator and talk to someone like boxer. Boxer was 20 when he started his pro career. I imagine no one who could offer greater insight. hes 30 years old. im sure he made his share of regrets in his pro gaming career. and im sure he would be willing to share them with a person who would want to aspire to be like him.

On April 06 2010 13:18 dacthehork wrote:


I would stop talking right about now, you are clueless about the pro scene or idra.

Being a korean pro gamer is definitely not a stress free occupation. There are players who made a lot of money of it, and there are some who are worse off (possibly).

The same can be said about poker, I'm sure there are a lot of suicides, stressful/depressed people, and "fail stories" from the poker world. Neither is bright and glossy, there is a much larger poker world, and a big rake from every hand. Obviously fayth/rek/smuft and other successful poker players put in a lot of time / effort to get good. There is a lot more opportunity to deceive yourself in how good you are at poker, because it is much more chance involved.

There are failing businesses, failing careers, etc everywhere. There are a lot of occupations with just as long hours as Korean Gaming and shittier pay with way less recognition than idra receives.

You might as well be talking shit to everyone poorer than you which is probably 95+% of the world population.


here is quote from the new york times article "POKER LOSER TRIES SUICIDE.; Father Overcome by Remorse When His Child Asked for a Penny."

Go to a poor country and offer idra's job to any random person and see what happens

On April 06 2010 13:24 Ket wrote:
IdrA why don't you put up the $500 you're prepared to bet and sell off another $4500 worth of action? There's no reason I can see for you to be unwilling to have any less than 100% of your action on a bet. I'd happily take $1k worth of action fwiw

On April 06 2010 13:26 StarcraftMaster wrote:
I dont understand what you grasped from my post was in any way offensive. i said he has a great opportunity. he should try to speak to a person who was in a similar position as him self. and ask for insight. I don't know or pretend to know idra. But i do know he is living in korea to try to make a living at what it seems SC2. The game is fresh. just like SC was fresh when Boxer started. Whose to say boxer wouldn't offer insight.

On April 06 2010 13:34 dacthehork wrote:


Dude you don't know anything just stfu

Idra is on a pro team, CJ Entus, with other players and a manager + coach. He has a salary, housing, and food.

"try to make a living"

All he has to do is get really fucking good at SC2 and beat everyone else, win tournaments etc, and he will get paid a lot. He has a pro gaming team already backing him and allowing him to train all day

Learn your facts before you start talking nonsense, this was a huge waste of time typing to your dumb ass self talking about shit you have no idea about. Listen I love new fans but please, don't talk like you know anything and Idra should "talk to boxer". THey don't even speak the same language and are probably similar skill wise.

On April 06 2010 13:20 Dacendoran wrote:
This whole thread has degraded into Fayth trolling the crap out of Idra and Idra taking the bait. It's obvious Smuft is dodging Idra and being extremely pretentious (Smuft I mean). Honestly you're making this a public showcase and just want attention for this, (everyone arguing on this thread) when all that the community wants is to see a grudge match right now, $500 or $5000 what does it matter when you can (in theory) shut Idra the hell up.

Maybe Smuft could grow up and realize that everyone's financial situation isn't the same and that acting like a pretentious ass gets you nowhere, you both are apparently god's gift to starcraft and Idra is manning up and putting $500 (Which is a lot to a normal person if you didn't know). So let's get this grudge match on and bring the childish slander to PMs.