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ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
April 06 2010 03:51 GMT
#701
I'm a fairly competitive person too and I wouldn't care to know if I'd beat IdrA in a grudge match T_T

We may just as well be getting too old for this
StarcraftMaster
Profile Joined March 2010
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 03:52:43
April 06 2010 03:52 GMT
#702
On April 06 2010 12:51 Fayth wrote:
I'm a fairly competitive person too and I wouldn't care to know if I'd beat IdrA in a grudge match T_T

We may just as well be getting too old for this

well. didnt smuft start by pointing out that he has a greater win % vs idra.
he seemed to be flaunting it around. anyways this is tiresome. i concede.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 03:55:26
April 06 2010 03:55 GMT
#703
yea! time to stfu! no need to get this nice thread closed, especially since nobody has anything new to say and just keep recycling same arguments without reading a few previous pages.
Next one to bring it up gets banned!
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 03:57:57
April 06 2010 03:57 GMT
#704
Congratz Idra for raping this tourney and winning it for Media!

(hehe Sfyd)

(edit: what I planned to say before the shit-storm happened)
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
April 06 2010 04:00 GMT
#705
On April 06 2010 12:24 Fayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 12:21 IdrA wrote:
On April 06 2010 12:16 Fayth wrote:
he's getting a bit old for this though, no?

you do realize you play a game for a living too right?

yes, but I can pay all my bills with this game, I can get kids and so on, you can't do anything except play more starcraft


How much do you pay for these kids you speak of... sounds kinda shady... I hope you're not paying them for sex because that would be really disturbing. p.s. go Idra! (sphynxx you're gay)
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
April 06 2010 04:03 GMT
#706
i meant i can have kids and be able to pay, idra would have trouble paying for his own shit
Ket
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom124 Posts
April 06 2010 04:08 GMT
#707
wow screw lp, i need to come here and read tl more
StarcraftMaster
Profile Joined March 2010
United States84 Posts
April 06 2010 04:09 GMT
#708
Idra has a huge opportunity. If i was in his position i would try to get a translator and talk to someone like boxer. Boxer was 20 when he started his pro career. I imagine no one who could offer greater insight. hes 30 years old. im sure he made his share of regrets in his pro gaming career. and im sure he would be willing to share them with a person who would want to aspire to be like him.
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
April 06 2010 04:12 GMT
#709
On April 06 2010 12:55 Sfydjklm wrote:
yea! time to stfu! no need to get this nice thread closed, especially since nobody has anything new to say and just keep recycling same arguments without reading a few previous pages.
Next one to bring it up gets banned!


So moderators got week off and appointed you to calm down the masses? This topic was some interesting read, and I am sad it has to come to the end.
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
MezmerizePLZ
Profile Joined April 2009
United States30 Posts
April 06 2010 04:15 GMT
#710
On April 06 2010 08:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
There's no reason to say poker players are more mature. Besides having money and caring more about money there is no indication that they are more mature than anyone else whatsoever. You could argue that having a lot of money at a young age does a lot of various things to young people, for some they include maturing, for others it's the opposite.

The realization that you need to make money in life is something even the most broke person can come to. People good at gaming switching to poker to make money so they can continue not to get education and stick with more gaming is the opposite of what most of the world would describe as maturing. And that's coming from someone who never finished his education. It's just an entirely useless debate to bring up at all.

Smuft has every right to make a claim based on facts in the past it says nothing about whether he would want to take up a match in the future. There is without a doubt a difference in motivation to practice for a match that is about $500. Idra would play his ass off and Smuft might not care enough to do the same. Realizing that you are at a motivational disadvantage for this amount of money and offering to play for more is perfectly fine.

No idea why everyone desperately try to pick a side in this. Idra offered something and Smuft decided not to do it and no one is at fault for that.


QTF

sick hero nazgul

sick retards saying its a dodge LOL
StarcraftMaster
Profile Joined March 2010
United States84 Posts
April 06 2010 04:18 GMT
#711
On April 06 2010 13:15 MezmerizePLZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 08:00 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
There's no reason to say poker players are more mature. Besides having money and caring more about money there is no indication that they are more mature than anyone else whatsoever. You could argue that having a lot of money at a young age does a lot of various things to young people, for some they include maturing, for others it's the opposite.

The realization that you need to make money in life is something even the most broke person can come to. People good at gaming switching to poker to make money so they can continue not to get education and stick with more gaming is the opposite of what most of the world would describe as maturing. And that's coming from someone who never finished his education. It's just an entirely useless debate to bring up at all.

Smuft has every right to make a claim based on facts in the past it says nothing about whether he would want to take up a match in the future. There is without a doubt a difference in motivation to practice for a match that is about $500. Idra would play his ass off and Smuft might not care enough to do the same. Realizing that you are at a motivational disadvantage for this amount of money and offering to play for more is perfectly fine.

No idea why everyone desperately try to pick a side in this. Idra offered something and Smuft decided not to do it and no one is at fault for that.


QTF

sick hero nazgul

sick retards saying its a dodge LOL

shit i didnt fully read nazguls post. But a competitive person wouldn't do it for the money. He would do it show that hes better. And those are the type of players that make the difference between the pros and the amateurs.
and we arn't discussing this any further atleast im not.
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 04:22:57
April 06 2010 04:18 GMT
#712
On April 06 2010 13:09 StarcraftMaster wrote:
Idra has a huge opportunity. If i was in his position i would try to get a translator and talk to someone like boxer. Boxer was 20 when he started his pro career. I imagine no one who could offer greater insight. hes 30 years old. im sure he made his share of regrets in his pro gaming career. and im sure he would be willing to share them with a person who would want to aspire to be like him.


I would stop talking right about now, you are clueless about the pro scene or idra.

Being a korean pro gamer is definitely not a stress free occupation. There are players who made a lot of money of it, and there are some who are worse off (possibly).

The same can be said about poker, I'm sure there are a lot of suicides, stressful/depressed people, and "fail stories" from the poker world. Neither is bright and glossy, there is a much larger poker world, and a big rake from every hand. Obviously fayth/rek/smuft and other successful poker players put in a lot of time / effort to get good. There is a lot more opportunity to deceive yourself in how good you are at poker, because it is much more chance involved.

There are failing businesses, failing careers, etc everywhere. There are a lot of occupations with just as long hours as Korean Gaming and shittier pay with way less recognition than idra receives.

You might as well be talking shit to everyone poorer than you which is probably 95+% of the world population.

here is quote from the new york times article "POKER LOSER TRIES SUICIDE.; Father Overcome by Remorse When His Child Asked for a Penny."

Go to a poor country and offer idra's job to any random person and see what happens
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
Dacendoran
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States825 Posts
April 06 2010 04:20 GMT
#713
This whole thread has degraded into Fayth trolling the crap out of Idra and Idra taking the bait. It's obvious Smuft is dodging Idra and being extremely pretentious (Smuft I mean). Honestly you're making this a public showcase and just want attention for this, (everyone arguing on this thread) when all that the community wants is to see a grudge match right now, $500 or $5000 what does it matter when you can (in theory) shut Idra the hell up.

Maybe Smuft could grow up and realize that everyone's financial situation isn't the same and that acting like a pretentious ass gets you nowhere, you both are apparently god's gift to starcraft and Idra is manning up and putting $500 (Which is a lot to a normal person if you didn't know). So let's get this grudge match on and bring the childish slander to PMs.
Ket
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom124 Posts
April 06 2010 04:24 GMT
#714
IdrA why don't you put up the $500 you're prepared to bet and sell off another $4500 worth of action? There's no reason I can see for you to be unwilling to have any less than 100% of your action on a bet. I'd happily take $1k worth of action fwiw
StarcraftMaster
Profile Joined March 2010
United States84 Posts
April 06 2010 04:26 GMT
#715
On April 06 2010 13:18 dacthehork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 13:09 StarcraftMaster wrote:
Idra has a huge opportunity. If i was in his position i would try to get a translator and talk to someone like boxer. Boxer was 20 when he started his pro career. I imagine no one who could offer greater insight. hes 30 years old. im sure he made his share of regrets in his pro gaming career. and im sure he would be willing to share them with a person who would want to aspire to be like him.


I would stop talking right about now, you are clueless about the pro scene or idra.

Being a korean pro gamer is definitely not a stress free occupation. There are players who made a lot of money of it, and there are some who are worse off (possibly).

The same can be said about poker, I'm sure there are a lot of suicides, stressful/depressed people, and "fail stories" from the poker world. Neither is bright and glossy, there is a much larger poker world, and a big rake from every hand. Obviously fayth/rek/smuft and other successful poker players put in a lot of time / effort to get good. There is a lot more opportunity to deceive yourself in how good you are at poker, because it is much more chance involved.

There are failing businesses, failing careers, etc everywhere. There are a lot of occupations with just as long hours as Korean Gaming and shittier pay with way less recognition than idra receives.

You might as well be talking shit to everyone poorer than you which is probably 95+% of the world population.


here is quote from the new york times article "POKER LOSER TRIES SUICIDE.; Father Overcome by Remorse When His Child Asked for a Penny."

Go to a poor country and offer idra's job to any random person and see what happens


I dont understand what you grasped from my post was in any way offensive. i said he has a great opportunity. he should try to speak to a person who was in a similar position as him self. and ask for insight. I don't know or pretend to know idra. But i do know he is living in korea to try to make a living at what it seems SC2. The game is fresh. just like SC was fresh when Boxer started. Whose to say boxer wouldn't offer insight.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 06 2010 04:28 GMT
#716
On April 06 2010 13:24 Ket wrote:
IdrA why don't you put up the $500 you're prepared to bet and sell off another $4500 worth of action? There's no reason I can see for you to be unwilling to have any less than 100% of your action on a bet. I'd happily take $1k worth of action fwiw

whooaa what happened to the nit in you
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 04:42:32
April 06 2010 04:34 GMT
#717
On April 06 2010 13:26 StarcraftMaster wrote:
I dont understand what you grasped from my post was in any way offensive. i said he has a great opportunity. he should try to speak to a person who was in a similar position as him self. and ask for insight. I don't know or pretend to know idra. But i do know he is living in korea to try to make a living at what it seems SC2. The game is fresh. just like SC was fresh when Boxer started. Whose to say boxer wouldn't offer insight.


Dude you don't know anything just stfu, your lack of knowledge and speaking as if you have some good advice is just irritating "starcraftmaster". So you know the name boxer, and know he is in Korea, and in order to post something you put whatever little knowledge of starcraft pro scene you have together and suggest Idra, go talk to Boxer for advice on how to make a living on SC2. Seriously do you go to physics forums and post "Maybe go read what Einstein wrote about physics and see if that helps" to every thread because you know the name Einstein and know he was involved in physics.

Idra is on a pro team, CJ Entus, with other players and a manager + coach. He has a salary, housing, and food.

"try to make a living"

All he has to do is get really fucking good at SC2 and beat everyone else, win tournaments etc, and he will get paid a lot. He has a pro gaming team already backing him and allowing him to train all day

Learn your facts before you start talking nonsense, this was a huge waste of time typing to your dumb ass self talking about shit you have no idea about. Listen I love new fans but please, don't talk like you know anything and Idra should "talk to boxer". THey don't even speak the same language and are probably similar skill wise.

Why don't you go to liquid poker and tell them how to get better at poker and give some advice to smuft and fayth. Maybe tell them to talk to Jamie Gold for some poker tips
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
Ket
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom124 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 04:41:42
April 06 2010 04:36 GMT
#718
^ lol forum nerd rage itt

haha sfyd, switching to plo probably didnt help with that

srsly tho there is no reason this bet shouldnt go down with each side having the level of exposure they want. its redundant to even argue what you think about how much each guy wants to bet or what size they should be willing to bet
StarcraftMaster
Profile Joined March 2010
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 04:41:54
April 06 2010 04:39 GMT
#719
On April 06 2010 13:34 dacthehork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 13:26 StarcraftMaster wrote:
I dont understand what you grasped from my post was in any way offensive. i said he has a great opportunity. he should try to speak to a person who was in a similar position as him self. and ask for insight. I don't know or pretend to know idra. But i do know he is living in korea to try to make a living at what it seems SC2. The game is fresh. just like SC was fresh when Boxer started. Whose to say boxer wouldn't offer insight.


Dude you don't know anything just stfu

Idra is on a pro team, CJ Entus, with other players and a manager + coach. He has a salary, housing, and food.

"try to make a living"

All he has to do is get really fucking good at SC2 and beat everyone else, win tournaments etc, and he will get paid a lot. He has a pro gaming team already backing him and allowing him to train all day

Learn your facts before you start talking nonsense, this was a huge waste of time typing to your dumb ass self talking about shit you have no idea about. Listen I love new fans but please, don't talk like you know anything and Idra should "talk to boxer". THey don't even speak the same language and are probably similar skill wise.

Ye your just a troll.... Boxer is much wiser. And has probably stumbled upon a lot of things in his career which would be worth hearing about. And i also mentioned he should get a translator but you didnt read my post.. You also have no idea who i am and have no idea what my experiences are in professional gaming. they don't extend to living in a pro house. But i have a good idea what im talking about.. im not sure you quite understand that im talking about his career as a pro...I really think you would be surprised how much more Boxer might know then flash. obviously flash is better but there are things you don't understand till your older. and thats what im pointing out.
Are you idras 2nd account?
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
April 06 2010 04:42 GMT
#720
On April 06 2010 13:20 Dacendoran wrote:
This whole thread has degraded into Fayth trolling the crap out of Idra and Idra taking the bait. It's obvious Smuft is dodging Idra and being extremely pretentious (Smuft I mean). Honestly you're making this a public showcase and just want attention for this, (everyone arguing on this thread) when all that the community wants is to see a grudge match right now, $500 or $5000 what does it matter when you can (in theory) shut Idra the hell up.

Maybe Smuft could grow up and realize that everyone's financial situation isn't the same and that acting like a pretentious ass gets you nowhere, you both are apparently god's gift to starcraft and Idra is manning up and putting $500 (Which is a lot to a normal person if you didn't know). So let's get this grudge match on and bring the childish slander to PMs.

you really don't know idra if u think beating him will shut him up, all that's gonna come out of it is "well he cheesed me, that's why he won"

so might as well win money off it
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