• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:52
CET 03:52
KST 11:52
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down21ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League99
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book 5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings) How SKT1 S-Tiers Felt To Be Swept By Flash Rollback Netcode in Brood War BW General Discussion Sagi.gg Launcher Released
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [IPSL] IPSL Winter 26-27 Ro24 is HERE! [$1250] International ShieldBattery League
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Deus Ex 3!? Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Chess Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9852 users

Smuft's Team Battle Tourney - Page 34

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 60 Next
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 03:14:57
April 06 2010 03:10 GMT
#661
On April 05 2010 14:45 StarcraftMaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2010 14:42 Fayth wrote:
On April 05 2010 14:30 StarcraftMaster wrote:
On April 05 2010 14:27 IdrA wrote:
lol, you say its only because of player pool and then say that americans focus on having fun and that asians work hard. theres a reason the mass practicers are odd balls amongst foreigners and not amongst koreans/chinese. their culture promotes a better work ethic than westerners, which means that yes, they are better at video games, and anything else that can benefit from massive amounts of practice.

Having fun is more important then worth ethic.
Without the passion there is no fuel for the fire.
And there is mass gamers in each. But there more common in asia cause of the player pool.
More players playing Around them as well.. Its linked with there enviorment. which is probably fueling the competition more for them...
just speculation tho.

actually it really depends on what you're aiming for, if you're looking to perform, win tournaments, get known, win money or whatever it is that there it gain from being a top player, then work ethic is important clearly

You guys are missing my point.
A person with all the worth ethic in the world couldn't play a game he didnt like playing.
Just like a person who got an enormous mental high when ever he played a game but never analyzed could Never improve at the game he loved so much.
Both go hand in hand. You need both. Not one or the other.
You think flash or jaedong would even be 1/1000th of there skill level if they didnt like playing?
You can force a person to play 10+ hours. all you want in korea. But not much is gonna happen if they Dont enjoy it and if they dont properly analyze there games. One relies on the other.


You are so redundant nobody is gonna play a game for 12 hours a day without being passionate about it.

edit: HUUUGE dodge by Smuft btw. Not cool
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
April 06 2010 03:12 GMT
#662
On April 06 2010 11:59 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 11:55 Pacifist wrote:
i am going to win + that doesnt mean im willing to part with it = does not compute

Obviously he doesn't think he is going to win 100%, but if he did think that, he would be an idiot. Starcraft is weird like that.

I mean the fact that he is willing to bet $500 means that he thinks he is favored to win, but the principle of being risk-averse explains why he wouldn't want to bet a year's fucking salary.

5000$

a year's fucking salary?

B-Team is that bad? LOL
StarcraftMaster
Profile Joined March 2010
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 03:14:26
April 06 2010 03:14 GMT
#663
On April 06 2010 12:10 ShaperofDreams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2010 14:45 StarcraftMaster wrote:
On April 05 2010 14:42 Fayth wrote:
On April 05 2010 14:30 StarcraftMaster wrote:
On April 05 2010 14:27 IdrA wrote:
lol, you say its only because of player pool and then say that americans focus on having fun and that asians work hard. theres a reason the mass practicers are odd balls amongst foreigners and not amongst koreans/chinese. their culture promotes a better work ethic than westerners, which means that yes, they are better at video games, and anything else that can benefit from massive amounts of practice.

Having fun is more important then worth ethic.
Without the passion there is no fuel for the fire.
And there is mass gamers in each. But there more common in asia cause of the player pool.
More players playing Around them as well.. Its linked with there enviorment. which is probably fueling the competition more for them...
just speculation tho.

actually it really depends on what you're aiming for, if you're looking to perform, win tournaments, get known, win money or whatever it is that there it gain from being a top player, then work ethic is important clearly

You guys are missing my point.
A person with all the worth ethic in the world couldn't play a game he didnt like playing.
Just like a person who got an enormous mental high when ever he played a game but never analyzed could Never improve at the game he loved so much.
Both go hand in hand. You need both. Not one or the other.
You think flash or jaedong would even be 1/1000th of there skill level if they didnt like playing?
You can force a person to play 10+ hours. all you want in korea. But not much is gonna happen if they Dont enjoy it and if they dont properly analyze there games. One relies on the other.


You are so redundant nobody is gonna play a game for 12 hours a day without being passionate about it.

Some peoples passions are greater. Im sure there are a number of people on the korean pro teams who dont enjoy there 12 hours as much as others.
intrinsic motivation. Was a good read. thanks to whomever posted about that. it explained alot
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 00:56:53
April 06 2010 03:15 GMT
#664
StarcraftMaster
Profile Joined March 2010
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 03:16:45
April 06 2010 03:15 GMT
#665
On April 06 2010 12:12 Fayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 11:59 motbob wrote:
On April 06 2010 11:55 Pacifist wrote:
i am going to win + that doesnt mean im willing to part with it = does not compute

Obviously he doesn't think he is going to win 100%, but if he did think that, he would be an idiot. Starcraft is weird like that.

I mean the fact that he is willing to bet $500 means that he thinks he is favored to win, but the principle of being risk-averse explains why he wouldn't want to bet a year's fucking salary.

5000$

a year's fucking salary?

B-Team is that bad? LOL

You forget all his living expenses are pretty much payed for..Hes certainly living an experience many people wish they would have had the opportunity to do. He has a better chance then almost anyone at making it as a pro gamer in sc2 right now ;0
and you might beable to consider him already a SC2 pro as he is playing in the CJ house FOR SC2.
infact. he might be the first pro sc2 player right now. but im not sure of the situation
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
April 06 2010 03:16 GMT
#666
he's getting a bit old for this though, no?
StarcraftMaster
Profile Joined March 2010
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 03:18:45
April 06 2010 03:18 GMT
#667
Boxer turned pro at age 20. thats when his career started.
You try way to hard to belittle idra..
way to fucking hard
ScrapUSA
Profile Joined February 2010
United States37 Posts
April 06 2010 03:20 GMT
#668
On April 06 2010 12:18 StarcraftMaster wrote:
Boxer turned pro at age 20. thats when his career started.
You try way to hard to belittle idra..
way to fucking hard


I wasn't aware boxer was so BM and let everyone know how fucking awesome he was when he was 20 either.

IdrA lives with pro gamers who do it for a living, as idra does as well... there's a time when you need to have some class and respect for the industry above all.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
April 06 2010 03:21 GMT
#669
On April 06 2010 12:16 Fayth wrote:
he's getting a bit old for this though, no?

you do realize you play a game for a living too right?
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
StarcraftMaster
Profile Joined March 2010
United States84 Posts
April 06 2010 03:21 GMT
#670
Manners really doesn't affect skill level. Boxer could trash talk every single opponent he ever had faced. He still would have been gods gift to terrans
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 03:24:21
April 06 2010 03:24 GMT
#671
On April 06 2010 12:21 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 12:16 Fayth wrote:
he's getting a bit old for this though, no?

you do realize you play a game for a living too right?

yes, but I can pay all my bills with this game, I can get kids and so on, you can't do anything except play more starcraft
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
April 06 2010 03:24 GMT
#672
On April 06 2010 12:21 StarcraftMaster wrote:
Manners really doesn't affect skill level. Boxer could trash talk every single opponent he ever had faced. He still would have been gods gift to terrans

yeah but everybody would hate him
JotunShagrath
Profile Joined April 2009
United States23 Posts
April 06 2010 03:25 GMT
#673
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/White_knight

Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 00:57:01
April 06 2010 03:26 GMT
#674
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
April 06 2010 03:27 GMT
#675
lol@fayth always taking cheap shots at idra from the sidelines
what a badass
Moderatorsloppy little slug
StarcraftMaster
Profile Joined March 2010
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 03:30:31
April 06 2010 03:27 GMT
#676
On April 06 2010 12:24 Fayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 12:21 IdrA wrote:
On April 06 2010 12:16 Fayth wrote:
he's getting a bit old for this though, no?

you do realize you play a game for a living too right?

yes, but I can pay all my bills with this game, I can get kids and so on, you can't do anything except play more starcraft

are you one of the people who failed at trying to go pro in SC and moved to poker like rekrul?
Don't vent your frustrations on someone who is succeeding, Sure you may feel IdrA deserves the disrespect. But havn't we all lost our cool once. Haven't we all gotten pissed off at losing to a bullshit strategy. Hasn't everyone? Idra may do it more. But we all have done things exactly like he does
and to the white knight shit- Idra has trash talked me more the once I infact dislike him and have hated on him on more then one occasion. How ever i hate to see the sort of piledrive going on here when in fact SMUFT IS DODGING and not idra. .
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-10 00:57:14
April 06 2010 03:29 GMT
#677
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
April 06 2010 03:30 GMT
#678
On April 06 2010 12:27 StarcraftMaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 12:24 Fayth wrote:
On April 06 2010 12:21 IdrA wrote:
On April 06 2010 12:16 Fayth wrote:
he's getting a bit old for this though, no?

you do realize you play a game for a living too right?

yes, but I can pay all my bills with this game, I can get kids and so on, you can't do anything except play more starcraft

are you one of the people who failed at trying to go pro in SC and moved to poker like rekrul?
Don't vent your frustrations on someone who is succeeding, Sure you may feel IdrA deserves the disrespect. But havn't we all lost our cool once. Haven't we all gotten pissed off at losing to a bullshit strategy. Hasn't everyone? Idra may do it more. But we all have done things exactly like he does.

no sir I didn't try to go pro.... I switched to poker because everyone I was playing with was leaving the game so I had no more fun playing it

yes like you say we have all lost our cool, but IdrA loses his cool both when he's losing and when he wins, he's just a huge hater, he really believe deep inside that he's smarter and more talented than anyone here....
StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
April 06 2010 03:32 GMT
#679
On April 06 2010 11:26 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 11:22 IdrA wrote:
On April 06 2010 11:03 Rekrul wrote:
Hahahahahaha.

Only a fucking idiot like IdrA would try to use logic like 'you're a coward raising to an amount that I won't call.'

Using the same logic you're a coward for only trying to bet for an amount that Smuft doesn't even care to practice for?

and LOL at the whole 'pride' thing. i guarantee you smuft doesn't give a fuck whos better than who

he played 3rd or 4th highest number of games on the ladder before the reset and he still obs and plays custom frequently. this is not a matter of taking time out of his busy schedule, it is a dodge.


actually for your information smuft pretty much quit SC2 and started grinding poker again before you proposed this bet (and no im not making this up)

the only one dodging is you, you definitely have 5000$ and if you're so sure ur gunna win why not bet it, it's not like you have anything to spend money on anyways

or is the anma eating a hole in ur wallet?


I gotta side with Idra on this one. Rekrul, you know that if you go to a No Limit table and you put John Doe all in, you can't take the extra $$$ John Doe has in his wallet, you can only take what John Doe has on the table. What John Doe has on the table is what he is willing to risk.

Idra cannot afford $5K while Smuft can. Idra is risking all his chips on the table - but he wants to walk out with his wallet in tact, and he has the right to do so.

Raising $5K is a form of dodging. Just as you can't reraise somebody on a No Limit table who already has all their chips in, so you shouldn't be able to reraise somebody to "dodge" their challenge.
ScrapUSA
Profile Joined February 2010
United States37 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 03:34:17
April 06 2010 03:33 GMT
#680
On April 06 2010 12:27 StarcraftMaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2010 12:24 Fayth wrote:
On April 06 2010 12:21 IdrA wrote:
On April 06 2010 12:16 Fayth wrote:
he's getting a bit old for this though, no?

you do realize you play a game for a living too right?

yes, but I can pay all my bills with this game, I can get kids and so on, you can't do anything except play more starcraft

are you one of the people who failed at trying to go pro in SC and moved to poker like rekrul?
Don't vent your frustrations on someone who is succeeding, Sure you may feel IdrA deserves the disrespect. But havn't we all lost our cool once. Haven't we all gotten pissed off at losing to a bullshit strategy. Hasn't everyone? Idra may do it more. But we all have done things exactly like he does
and to the white knight shit- Idra has trash talked me more the once I infact dislike him and have hated on him on more then one occasion. How ever i hate to see the sort of piledrive going on here when in fact SMUFT IS DODGING and not idra. .


Who are you anyways to call out people for not going pro in starcraft? StarcraftMaster... really?
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 60 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
08:00
Enki Pro Series #9
Rogue vs ClassicLIVE!
CranKy Ducklings SOOP46
CranKy Ducklings37
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 167
Codebar 39
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2346
GuemChi 1353
Artosis 712
JimRising 672
ProTech183
910 62
Bale 60
Force[name] 7
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm179
Counter-Strike
fl0m3127
taco 354
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox304
Other Games
summit1g10429
Doublelift2653
singsing1475
XaKoH 659
Day[9].tv550
shahzam532
C9.Mang0313
PiGStarcraft200
Maynarde131
amsayoshi30
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick608
Counter-Strike
PGL271
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Day9tv550
• Shiphtur0
Upcoming Events
Patches Events
10h 8m
PiGosaur Cup
22h 8m
Kung Fu Cup
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
OSC
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
IPSL
4 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
[ Show More ]
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-02
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.