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On April 05 2010 14:45 StarcraftMaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 14:42 Fayth wrote:On April 05 2010 14:30 StarcraftMaster wrote:On April 05 2010 14:27 IdrA wrote:
lol, you say its only because of player pool and then say that americans focus on having fun and that asians work hard. theres a reason the mass practicers are odd balls amongst foreigners and not amongst koreans/chinese. their culture promotes a better work ethic than westerners, which means that yes, they are better at video games, and anything else that can benefit from massive amounts of practice. Having fun is more important then worth ethic. Without the passion there is no fuel for the fire. And there is mass gamers in each. But there more common in asia cause of the player pool. More players playing Around them as well.. Its linked with there enviorment. which is probably fueling the competition more for them... just speculation tho. actually it really depends on what you're aiming for, if you're looking to perform, win tournaments, get known, win money or whatever it is that there it gain from being a top player, then work ethic is important clearly You guys are missing my point. A person with all the worth ethic in the world couldn't play a game he didnt like playing. Just like a person who got an enormous mental high when ever he played a game but never analyzed could Never improve at the game he loved so much. Both go hand in hand. You need both. Not one or the other. You think flash or jaedong would even be 1/1000th of there skill level if they didnt like playing? You can force a person to play 10+ hours. all you want in korea. But not much is gonna happen if they Dont enjoy it and if they dont properly analyze there games. One relies on the other.
You are so redundant nobody is gonna play a game for 12 hours a day without being passionate about it.
edit: HUUUGE dodge by Smuft btw. Not cool 
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On April 06 2010 11:59 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 11:55 Pacifist wrote:
i am going to win + that doesnt mean im willing to part with it = does not compute Obviously he doesn't think he is going to win 100%, but if he did think that, he would be an idiot. Starcraft is weird like that. I mean the fact that he is willing to bet $500 means that he thinks he is favored to win, but the principle of being risk-averse explains why he wouldn't want to bet a year's fucking salary.
5000$
a year's fucking salary?
B-Team is that bad? LOL
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On April 06 2010 12:10 ShaperofDreams wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 14:45 StarcraftMaster wrote:On April 05 2010 14:42 Fayth wrote:On April 05 2010 14:30 StarcraftMaster wrote:On April 05 2010 14:27 IdrA wrote:
lol, you say its only because of player pool and then say that americans focus on having fun and that asians work hard. theres a reason the mass practicers are odd balls amongst foreigners and not amongst koreans/chinese. their culture promotes a better work ethic than westerners, which means that yes, they are better at video games, and anything else that can benefit from massive amounts of practice. Having fun is more important then worth ethic. Without the passion there is no fuel for the fire. And there is mass gamers in each. But there more common in asia cause of the player pool. More players playing Around them as well.. Its linked with there enviorment. which is probably fueling the competition more for them... just speculation tho. actually it really depends on what you're aiming for, if you're looking to perform, win tournaments, get known, win money or whatever it is that there it gain from being a top player, then work ethic is important clearly You guys are missing my point. A person with all the worth ethic in the world couldn't play a game he didnt like playing. Just like a person who got an enormous mental high when ever he played a game but never analyzed could Never improve at the game he loved so much. Both go hand in hand. You need both. Not one or the other. You think flash or jaedong would even be 1/1000th of there skill level if they didnt like playing? You can force a person to play 10+ hours. all you want in korea. But not much is gonna happen if they Dont enjoy it and if they dont properly analyze there games. One relies on the other. You are so redundant nobody is gonna play a game for 12 hours a day without being passionate about it.
Some peoples passions are greater. Im sure there are a number of people on the korean pro teams who dont enjoy there 12 hours as much as others.
intrinsic motivation. Was a good read. thanks to whomever posted about that. it explained alot
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On April 06 2010 12:12 Fayth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 11:59 motbob wrote:On April 06 2010 11:55 Pacifist wrote:
i am going to win + that doesnt mean im willing to part with it = does not compute Obviously he doesn't think he is going to win 100%, but if he did think that, he would be an idiot. Starcraft is weird like that. I mean the fact that he is willing to bet $500 means that he thinks he is favored to win, but the principle of being risk-averse explains why he wouldn't want to bet a year's fucking salary. 5000$ a year's fucking salary? B-Team is that bad? LOL
You forget all his living expenses are pretty much payed for..Hes certainly living an experience many people wish they would have had the opportunity to do. He has a better chance then almost anyone at making it as a pro gamer in sc2 right now ;0
and you might beable to consider him already a SC2 pro as he is playing in the CJ house FOR SC2.
infact. he might be the first pro sc2 player right now. but im not sure of the situation
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he's getting a bit old for this though, no?
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Boxer turned pro at age 20. thats when his career started.
You try way to hard to belittle idra..
way to fucking hard
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On April 06 2010 12:18 StarcraftMaster wrote:
Boxer turned pro at age 20. thats when his career started.
You try way to hard to belittle idra..
way to fucking hard
I wasn't aware boxer was so BM and let everyone know how fucking awesome he was when he was 20 either.
IdrA lives with pro gamers who do it for a living, as idra does as well... there's a time when you need to have some class and respect for the industry above all.
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On April 06 2010 12:16 Fayth wrote:
he's getting a bit old for this though, no?
you do realize you play a game for a living too right?
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Manners really doesn't affect skill level. Boxer could trash talk every single opponent he ever had faced. He still would have been gods gift to terrans
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On April 06 2010 12:21 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 12:16 Fayth wrote:
he's getting a bit old for this though, no? you do realize you play a game for a living too right?
yes, but I can pay all my bills with this game, I can get kids and so on, you can't do anything except play more starcraft
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On April 06 2010 12:21 StarcraftMaster wrote:
Manners really doesn't affect skill level. Boxer could trash talk every single opponent he ever had faced. He still would have been gods gift to terrans
yeah but everybody would hate him
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lol@fayth always taking cheap shots at idra from the sidelines
what a badass
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On April 06 2010 12:24 Fayth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 12:21 IdrA wrote:On April 06 2010 12:16 Fayth wrote:
he's getting a bit old for this though, no? you do realize you play a game for a living too right? yes, but I can pay all my bills with this game, I can get kids and so on, you can't do anything except play more starcraft
are you one of the people who failed at trying to go pro in SC and moved to poker like rekrul?
Don't vent your frustrations on someone who is succeeding, Sure you may feel IdrA deserves the disrespect. But havn't we all lost our cool once. Haven't we all gotten pissed off at losing to a bullshit strategy. Hasn't everyone? Idra may do it more. But we all have done things exactly like he does
and to the white knight shit- Idra has trash talked me more the once I infact dislike him and have hated on him on more then one occasion. How ever i hate to see the sort of piledrive going on here when in fact SMUFT IS DODGING and not idra. .
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On April 06 2010 12:27 StarcraftMaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 12:24 Fayth wrote:On April 06 2010 12:21 IdrA wrote:On April 06 2010 12:16 Fayth wrote:
he's getting a bit old for this though, no? you do realize you play a game for a living too right? yes, but I can pay all my bills with this game, I can get kids and so on, you can't do anything except play more starcraft are you one of the people who failed at trying to go pro in SC and moved to poker like rekrul? Don't vent your frustrations on someone who is succeeding, Sure you may feel IdrA deserves the disrespect. But havn't we all lost our cool once. Haven't we all gotten pissed off at losing to a bullshit strategy. Hasn't everyone? Idra may do it more. But we all have done things exactly like he does.
no sir I didn't try to go pro.... I switched to poker because everyone I was playing with was leaving the game so I had no more fun playing it
yes like you say we have all lost our cool, but IdrA loses his cool both when he's losing and when he wins, he's just a huge hater, he really believe deep inside that he's smarter and more talented than anyone here....
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On April 06 2010 11:26 Rekrul wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 11:22 IdrA wrote:On April 06 2010 11:03 Rekrul wrote:
Hahahahahaha.
Only a fucking idiot like IdrA would try to use logic like 'you're a coward raising to an amount that I won't call.'
Using the same logic you're a coward for only trying to bet for an amount that Smuft doesn't even care to practice for?
and LOL at the whole 'pride' thing. i guarantee you smuft doesn't give a fuck whos better than who he played 3rd or 4th highest number of games on the ladder before the reset and he still obs and plays custom frequently. this is not a matter of taking time out of his busy schedule, it is a dodge. actually for your information smuft pretty much quit SC2 and started grinding poker again before you proposed this bet (and no im not making this up) the only one dodging is you, you definitely have 5000$ and if you're so sure ur gunna win why not bet it, it's not like you have anything to spend money on anyways or is the anma eating a hole in ur wallet?
I gotta side with Idra on this one. Rekrul, you know that if you go to a No Limit table and you put John Doe all in, you can't take the extra $$$ John Doe has in his wallet, you can only take what John Doe has on the table. What John Doe has on the table is what he is willing to risk.
Idra cannot afford $5K while Smuft can. Idra is risking all his chips on the table - but he wants to walk out with his wallet in tact, and he has the right to do so.
Raising $5K is a form of dodging. Just as you can't reraise somebody on a No Limit table who already has all their chips in, so you shouldn't be able to reraise somebody to "dodge" their challenge.
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On April 06 2010 12:27 StarcraftMaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 12:24 Fayth wrote:On April 06 2010 12:21 IdrA wrote:On April 06 2010 12:16 Fayth wrote:
he's getting a bit old for this though, no? you do realize you play a game for a living too right? yes, but I can pay all my bills with this game, I can get kids and so on, you can't do anything except play more starcraft are you one of the people who failed at trying to go pro in SC and moved to poker like rekrul? Don't vent your frustrations on someone who is succeeding, Sure you may feel IdrA deserves the disrespect. But havn't we all lost our cool once. Haven't we all gotten pissed off at losing to a bullshit strategy. Hasn't everyone? Idra may do it more. But we all have done things exactly like he does and to the white knight shit- Idra has trash talked me more the once I infact dislike him and have hated on him on more then one occasion. How ever i hate to see the sort of piledrive going on here when in fact SMUFT IS DODGING and not idra. .
Who are you anyways to call out people for not going pro in starcraft? StarcraftMaster... really?
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