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Skrita
Czech Republic55 Posts
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Sissors
1395 Posts
On December 26 2015 05:32 baabaa wrote: aren't there already enough diamond / master protoss players with 50 APM? Players like you are my favourite opponents. Those who afterwards message you to tell you what a horrible player you are because you didn't have enough APM, while they smashed their head way more often on the keyboard (which is the only way I see many getting their APM, for sure it isn't managing anything useful). On December 26 2015 05:41 weikor wrote: Youd think that, but the fact is that terran can actually destroy a carrier army in a direct engagement with far less investment, while no other race can accomplish that. In a direct engagement I see zerg quite easily winning with corruptors. How is Terran going to win? I have seen people saying Liberators, and I tried it a few times, but liberators died so fast, with plenty of interceptors left. Battlecruisers with full energy work in a straight up engagement, however add release interceptors + HTs and that option is gone. Unless I manage to be able to fight him before he has critical mass of carrier / when I got a huge air lead, the only way I have been able to beat toss air armies is by making a missile turret field right outside his base without him noticing, and hoping he has the ratio tempests/carriers wrong. (Or forgot about HTs). | ||
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
you make vipers, he makes high Templar you need 7 carriers to 1-shot a corruptor upwards of 20 corruptors to 1-shot a carrier. that's 42 supply vs 40 respectively while carriers cost at least twice as much. on paper it works but practically speaking, it doesn't. all it takes is one storm and your ideal fight is ruined. then there's the fact that carriers can carry over and hit ground units too. I don't know, it comes down to the high Templar. as for people thinking that Vikings > carriers, no they kinda don't, surprisingly. it's been like this since WoL. the dps is too high and Viking too squishy. | ||
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Viperbird
United States118 Posts
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Juliette
United States6003 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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Thyriaen
Switzerland41 Posts
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Yonnua
United Kingdom2331 Posts
This guide was a welcome surprise. | ||
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kuan888
Canada305 Posts
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
Mech for Terran Spines with BL for zerg (I can stand a chance in ZvZ haha) And this for protoss Wonder if blizzard would mind this new way of playing. Nah DK seems like a cool dude. #TurtleMode | ||
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jinjin5000
United States1468 Posts
On December 26 2015 12:13 Shapelog wrote: We all should do Turtle builds. (no joke) Mech for Terran Spines with BL for zerg (I can stand a chance in ZvZ haha) And this for protoss Wonder if blizzard would mind this new way of playing. Nah DK seems like a cool dude. #TurtleMode Skyterran yes, but turtle mech isnt that strong in lotv. Doesnt work vs protoss Doesn't work after hive vs Zerg Disadvantaged vs terran bio | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
On December 26 2015 12:35 jinjin5000 wrote: Skyterran yes, but turtle mech isnt that strong in lotv. Doesnt work vs protoss Doesn't work after hive vs Zerg Disadvantaged vs terran bio Good point | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On December 26 2015 01:47 corydoras wrote: I just took a look at the screenshots and this feels like Christma...err..this feels like being 16 again and playing Brood War with my friends - these are my freaking cannon walls that I was building back then! Thanks :D Reminded me of the same thing hehe, I even wrote a big strategy piece way back in the day featuring a similar turtle toss strat for rush hour 2 pvz haha > _< Though I think I called it Sim City toss. This made me want to play some SC2, but dont think I should - seems like it could waste a lot of time hahah :D | ||
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QNdie
Poland210 Posts
On December 26 2015 08:27 boxerfred wrote: hahahaha "we aim for avoiding the stalemate turtle style that hots created". pro level game design happened that created such a build. merry christmas Yeah it is a turtle style but it isn't the only way to play and doesn't seem to be the strongest/easiest build in the world either. Having diversity in strategy is good, hots devolved into either turtle-fests or all-ins at some point and, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think we're seeing so much of this nowadays. | ||
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
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Sissors
1395 Posts
On December 26 2015 20:43 graNite wrote: why is tl supporting a playstyle like this? this is not helping sc2s growth... Says who? | ||
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AkashSky
United States257 Posts
Nonetheless, I always love teamliquid write ups and their high quality. I just really hope that some glaring flaw in this style is found so that it never becomes remotely close to meta; as I just don't want starcraft to be about camping behind static defense. | ||
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MiCroLiFe
Norway275 Posts
On December 26 2015 01:55 geokilla wrote: Another dirty Protoss build. Why don't we ever get Terran builds?! because its just ONe terran build. fast cyclone or die. | ||
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Gamlet
Ukraine336 Posts
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bjornkavist
Canada1235 Posts
On December 26 2015 23:06 AkashSky wrote: This build is fucking cancer...like terran mech and the old swarm host vipor strategy. Nonetheless, I always love teamliquid write ups and their high quality. I just really hope that some glaring flaw in this style is found so that it never becomes remotely close to meta; as I just don't want starcraft to be about camping behind static defense. If anything maybe Terrans will start using nukes to combat this style. One can dream | ||
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