EPTI tried liberators / mines but I can't trade well enough, marines take too much time to kill corruptors or are getting swarmed.
Has the liberator nerf something to do with it?
Do I need air upgrades earlier?
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Poopi
France13018 Posts
I tried liberators / mines but I can't trade well enough, marines take too much time to kill corruptors or are getting swarmed. Has the liberator nerf something to do with it? Do I need air upgrades earlier? | ||
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Ryu3600
Canada470 Posts
On March 07 2017 03:31 Poopi wrote: What is the transition you need to do in TvZ around the start of your 4th base when the zerg goes into ultra/Corruptors+meatshield, sometimes he still has some mutas? I tried liberators / mines but I can't trade well enough, marines take too much time to kill corruptors or are getting swarmed. Has the liberator nerf something to do with it? Do I need air upgrades earlier? Stop making mines, start turtling w/ lib ghost PF if you want factory units siege tanks will be better if you can get a high enough attack. 1-2 Thors wouldn't hurt either and marines are only there to clear out lings if you can try to meatshield with thor marauder and use ghosts to snipe the ultralisks. | ||
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Poopi
France13018 Posts
I have tanks/thors as well but +1/+2 atk doesn't seem to be enough. | ||
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Ryu3600
Canada470 Posts
On March 07 2017 05:01 Poopi wrote: I would rather not use ghosts especially if the Z didn't bother to add infestors. I have tanks/thors as well but +1/+2 atk doesn't seem to be enough. Sadly ghosts are just a must use.They are stupid, incredibly hard to use and one of the dumbest ways for Terran to beat ultralisks however... The way I cope with it is to watch someone like TY. In my opinion, there is no Terran with better late game control than TY. And I am certain Ty has mastered the ghost. With TY recently winning IEM I think a lot of Terrans should aim to have as good of a late game as Ty cause when ByuN's early-mid game aggression could not beat Stats Ty's masterful control and late game prowess sure did | ||
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bretfart
114 Posts
I'm currently learning how to play Terran (I am Diamond Tier 2 Zerg + Toss). My question is about macro terran against Zerg. I usually go 2 Rax with 16 Marine Stimpush at around 5 min mark + 1 Liberator. What's the correct BO after that for a macro game? Is it... A) 3rd CC, +3 Rax, double ebay B) 3rd CC, dobule ebay, +3 Rax C) double ebay, 3rd CC, +3 Rax D) Something else? | ||
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thefrol
Russian Federation30 Posts
On March 09 2017 18:42 bretfart wrote: B) 3rd CC, double ebay, +3 Rax I think this is the best option. And a bit later 3 more rax, so you have around 8 rax on three bases and start fourth CC. | ||
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ArtyK
France3144 Posts
On March 09 2017 18:42 bretfart wrote: Hey guys, I'm currently learning how to play Terran (I am Diamond Tier 2 Zerg + Toss). My question is about macro terran against Zerg. I usually go 2 Rax with 16 Marine Stimpush at around 5 min mark + 1 Liberator. What's the correct BO after that for a macro game? Is it... A) 3rd CC, +3 Rax, double ebay B) 3rd CC, dobule ebay, +3 Rax C) double ebay, 3rd CC, +3 Rax D) Something else? B) or C) I've been using C) for the past 6 months, so 1/1 and 2/2 often finish before the zergs. Hitting those timings can be pretty deadly. What you need to do is stop starport production after your first 3-4 medivacs/liberators, then resume it after you're done with B) or C) Otherwise it delays your expand/upgrades by a lot. | ||
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bretfart
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Ryu3600
Canada470 Posts
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ArtyK
France3144 Posts
On March 10 2017 01:45 Ryu3600 wrote: Hey guys I have an actual question this isn't a hate question or me ripping on a race but I have so many friends who are Zergs and Terran but I can't ever find a Protoss who wants to befriend me or practice with me. They are either really rude or just super cheesy... Do you guys have similar experiences?? (I won't lie I do have some close friends who are Protoss but they are way better than me it's just the Protoss's I've seen at my MMR just aren't really the friendliest... Never noticed a particular race being more bm than another, but cheese is obviously a bit more common because of the race general style. | ||
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Ryu3600
Canada470 Posts
On March 10 2017 01:54 ArtyK wrote: Never noticed a particular race being more bm than another, but cheese is obviously a bit more common because of the race general style. I just want a protoss practice partner who is at my level.. But they either hate me or cheese me making me dislike them v-v | ||
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bretfart
114 Posts
Just kidding. Never noticed something like that before. Only thing I've noticed is that maybe 3/10 people in Diamond / Platin league say "gl hf" and/or "gg". Maybe back on topic now! | ||
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ArtyK
France3144 Posts
On March 10 2017 02:52 Ryu3600 wrote: I just want a protoss practice partner who is at my level.. But they either hate me or cheese me making me dislike them v-v what's your mmr? Maybe try using the practice partner thread | ||
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Ryu3600
Canada470 Posts
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Poopi
France13018 Posts
I have a rough idea of how to do it but I'd like the "official" version, often when watching live TvZ it's hard to follow the builds, especially since we don't always have the Terran pov. Is there a known vod of such build where you can see and/or guess the build from start to 2 medics 16 marines stim incoming at the Zerg base? | ||
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ArtyK
France3144 Posts
On March 10 2017 08:59 Poopi wrote: Where can I find vods (or even better replays :D) of still used popular builds such as 2-1-1 in TvZ with double medivac + stim? I have a rough idea of how to do it but I'd like the "official" version, often when watching live TvZ it's hard to follow the builds, especially since we don't always have the Terran pov. Is there a known vod of such build where you can see and/or guess the build from start to 2 medics 16 marines stim incoming at the Zerg base? Old but gold : I'm sure you can find the 2-1-1 on spawningtool or something, but this vod should be enough for the first 5 minutes of the build | ||
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eeChiama
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MockHamill
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Ryu3600
Canada470 Posts
On March 12 2017 03:00 MockHamill wrote: If you play mech in TvP how do you counter mass phoenix into mass phoenix/adepts? widows and thors are my guess. | ||
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geokilla
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