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Ovid
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom948 Posts
November 10 2013 11:28 GMT
#121
Blizzcon just went past, and there was two early pools

One by Soulkey against Naniwa and one with Jaedong against MVP, both of which are won games.
The one with Soulkey shows the perfect transition method in ZvP from an early pool.
It's the WCS Global Finals RO16 VOD at 04:58:40
battle.net/blizzcon/en/live-stream/

And the same VOD at 6:38:58 for the Jaedong game.

Both of which are very interesting games and both are prime examples of how to execute an early pool perfectly.
I will make Yogg Saron priest work...
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
November 12 2013 06:13 GMT
#122
Here is the direct link to JDs 8 pool vs MVP
http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/matches/jaedong-vs-mvp
game starts at 7:40:00 (ish)

It's interesting to note that JD had a very specific plan against a reaper opening, which was to go out of the scout path (easily facilitated by split in the middle of Akilon Wastes and wait for the reaper to leave for his base before bringing the lings into the base.
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
Ovid
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom948 Posts
November 19 2013 20:08 GMT
#123
I think I've cracked my ZvP since this season I'm now 83% win ratio, I just need a good transition in ZvT.
Still would be nice to have advice about my ZvP though.

http://ggtracker.com/matches/4386120

I know I didn't scout with my overlords, I'm working on remembering!

I feel I will open up with a 9 pool with scout, to do the above mentioned tactic since Jaedongs lings were there too early and waited I feel his build was slightly less efficient than a 9 pool.

It's just the transition, I feel like I can't roach bane because due to the volatile nature of my opener they will be looking for that.
But I'm unsure how I want to transition, I don't like Ling/Baneling Mutalisk, not for micro reasons but because I just dislike the play style because it feels like headbutting each other to the death. Both sides will be bruised and battered but it all depends on who gets the final last strike.

So I would prefer to do a timing attack, something zany.
So my choices are Hyun style, or Catz style or perhaps something of my own concoction.

I was just wondering what other styles do you guys use instead of Muta ling bane.
I will make Yogg Saron priest work...
stuzH
Profile Joined September 2011
United States56 Posts
December 03 2013 05:48 GMT
#124
Like a few people said, going 10 pool vs every race will get you to masters pretty easily if you can follow it up. Most people below masters are mentally challenged anyways, so even if you end up behind, with good mechanics and ez win is possible.
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-06 02:22:12
January 06 2014 02:21 GMT
#125
I dunno if this was listed in this thread somewhere but here is a 6pool ZvT proxy rax

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