[D] TvZ Gumiho vs Life MMMG build - Page 3

On December 06 2012 08:33 lamiller wrote:



So you would say this is a good strategy in the late game. Could you throw tanks into this composition for the midgame? and then just go pure mmmg in the late game?

On December 08 2012 06:09 lahara wrote:
i personally feel putting 4 marauders in a medivac drop is very dangerous as the muta counterattack interception will undoubtedly utterly dismantle its ability to deal damage to the zerg players vital economy and making drone harass obsolete. also i think that by putting marines inside medivacs profits more as they will be able to harrass workers way more effectivgely than a marauder otherwise could when being dropped in spite of being better at killing zerg buildings such as greater spires.
sorry for my bad english
hope i could help
lahara

On December 05 2012 06:47 lamiller wrote:


I already think Bio play is more efficient than marine tank. Tanks in my mind are only good for defense of the base against zerg. Because honestly when you look at most siege tank engagements 9/10 an infestor throws a beach ball that already soaks up 95% of your tank fire and by the next shot they are either attacking your army or hitting infestors when you target them. I just think tanks are a waste and considering the build time + upgrades + cost = not really worth it.

In regards to the new patch. I think ghosts will be the new tank because emp now out ranges fungal. Even though fungal is instant and emp is not. I still think tanks are still useless for the fact that it would still take 2 siege shots to kill a infested terran and I think its more of a wake up call for bio to be used because of emp range. Cut out tanks and you have more money for upgrades, and easier transition of tech with the excess gas.

Also it would be a wake up call to zergs to stop being so greedy. Previously, what was terrans only timing push? +2/+2 with +1 vehicle weapons and since ever zerg knows the timing of that it makes the push even more inefficient because they know the time to build units. I think bio gives way to put pressure on immediately and when done properly will create a much more exciting game because honestly no one likes watching the current meta unless the terran somehow severely outplays the zerg.

Thanks for the reply!

On December 08 2012 08:48 c0sm0naut wrote:


imo mutas (in the midgame at least) are the best way to slow down the tempo of a bio player. responding to high level muta harass takes a lot of APM and a lot of commitment to static D or intelligent unit positioning (which slows down his attacking)

if you see ppl like.. hmm.. vortix is someone i have seen do this. they go mutas just to get rid of medivacs basically (5-8 or so) and then get infestors. marine tank and bio combat zerg splash by spreading off clumps of marines (8 stim marine firing on a hatch, 8 tanks and 60 marines behind them but not too close to the hatch). once you get good carapace upgrades for mutalisk and an infestor count, you can fungal these marines that poke in and kill them for 1 fungal + a dive in with the mutas. it's a high apm style but its definitely not a stretch when you consider how much flanking and IT dropping you do with normal tank pushes

i think getting a few mutalisks, starting air upgrades as well as continuing ground carapace + ranged or melee, taking a 4th and 5th base and then going into infestors with PG is the best way to combat a bio heavy or pure bio force (only 1 factory or less), and the carapace upgrades for your mutas eventually add up quite a bit and your broodlords just live forever. mutas and infestors are both incredibly mineral light, so you can make these and drone up + expand or spend your minerals on other things instead (like adding in 10-12 queens for crazy ass transfuse)