Very interesting thread. Very well done research. However, are those gas mining differences enough to decide the outcome of a game? So, let's take the most imbalanced case - entombed valley PvP 1 base 4gate vs 4 gate and 1 player takes the "worst" gas while the other one takes the "best" gas. Over a period of 10 minutes from the moment they take their gases the player with the faster mining one will have accumulated 81 gas (used your 8.1% rate difference) more than the other one. 10 minute - 81 gas difference - not even enough to make a sentry.. enough to make 1 stalker tho.. But that is over a period of 10 min assuming "the worst" vs "the best" gas on the most imbalanced gas map. And how close should that PvP be for those 10 min.. ? IMO This doesn't seem too big of a deal but certainly should be fixed ..

Pimpmuckl

Germany528 Posts

October 28 2012 21:38 GMT

#186

NICE Read, holy cow that's some research you did there!

On October 29 2012 05:28 Pholon wrote:
Someone give this man a BA in Starcraft

This certainly is a Bachelor of Science.

Negius

Netherlands290 Posts

October 28 2012 21:41 GMT

#187

Very interesting, amazing read!
I wonder how many top pro's will notice this...

Proseat

Germany5113 Posts

October 28 2012 22:20 GMT

#188

Very nice and thorough research, well done!

Hope Blizzard, pros, and mapmakers will see it.

Ethoex

United States164 Posts

October 28 2012 22:27 GMT

#189

wow this was amazing great post

figq

12519 Posts

October 28 2012 22:48 GMT

#190

Orek strikes again! Love this, and it has lurked at the back of my mind to look deeper into it, but never done it.

GhandiEAGLE

United States20754 Posts

October 28 2012 23:22 GMT

#191

I wonder if you even feel this much research was worth the end result?

SpikeStarcraft

Germany2095 Posts

October 28 2012 23:22 GMT

#192

I always assumed that mapmakers just create 1/2 of the map and then mirror it. then maybe add some assymetrical visuals. So i dont understand the randomness in those misplacements. and i dont think blizzard did that intentionally.

SpikeStarcraft

Germany2095 Posts

October 28 2012 23:25 GMT

#193

On October 29 2012 08:22 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I wonder if you even feel this much research was worth the end result?

haha i think you dont understand much of professional starcraft play. The entire point of this op was that it actually matters which gas you take on high level play.

reikai

United States359 Posts

October 28 2012 23:26 GMT

#194

Well done. :D

Thylacine

Sweden882 Posts

October 28 2012 23:46 GMT

#195

On October 29 2012 01:11 Thylacine wrote:
Could you make this abit simpler? And easier to understand? I saw the pictures of all the maps, is it Blue>Orange>Red in terms of Goodiness?

Can someone help me out here, please? oO

SpikeStarcraft

Germany2095 Posts

October 28 2012 23:52 GMT

#196

On October 29 2012 08:46 Thylacine wrote:

Show nested quote +

Can someone help me out here, please? oO

from red = inefficent to blue = efficient
you can see a spectrum under research results, the second picture there.

Frankenberry

Denmark302 Posts

October 29 2012 00:23 GMT

#197

On October 29 2012 05:28 Pholon wrote:
Someone give this man a BA in Starcraft

You must mean give this man a beer on a barcraft ^^

ooDi

Canada170 Posts

October 29 2012 00:59 GMT

#198

nice post!

Gatesleeper

Canada300 Posts

October 29 2012 01:29 GMT

#199

lol.

A couple of weeks ago, I wanted to see if adding a 4th miner to gas has any effect at all on gas income. So I made a custom game and went up to 5 bases, had 3 workers in each gas, then added a 4th worker to each gas. In the replay I watched the income tab to see if my gas income went up at all. It didn't, and I was disappointed.

Do you know which spawn location I was at on which map? 5 oclock on Ohana. According to this post, all 5 bases on the lower half of Ohana are optimal gas locations. -______-