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Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
September 04 2011 01:53 GMT
#21
Sleep, Eat, Exercise. Make sure you're doing each of those correctly. It works wonders.
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
Typho
Profile Joined August 2011
36 Posts
September 04 2011 02:31 GMT
#22
I had exactly the same problem, except it probably was a lot worse. During a time I would be able to play like 2-3 games and then I found out that my brain just stopped thinking completely. This happens more on a intense or close game or against a tough opponent. Starcraft2 requires a lot of focus and thousands of decisions to be made and somewhat higher apm. It's not really surprising that after a while you start losing focus. If I got really "tired out" I could just stop thinking completely. Sometimes I see 2 banelings run in and I just stopped splitting lings/drones or sometimes I would scout a dark shrine and yet just does not respond.

This doesn't mean that "if you don't enjoy the game don't play it duh", as some has suggested. In fact, I do enjoy the game so much it annoys me that I am unable to enjoy more games in a row. In my experience I feel that this can improve with
- Practices: The more you play the more "routine" some tasks become and you're able to execute it with less effort (for example, larvae inject, mules, and chronoboost timing) and your brain is also more accustomed to the tasks required. Just slowly increase the number of games in a streak you can play over time and eventually you will be able to play a lot more games than you used to.
- Attitude: I find that if I got very upset with losses then it's a lot easier to "tire out". Keep your optimism high and it's important to keep remind yourself once in a while that it's just a game and you're supposed to enjoy it. Of course, from time to time you're going to get very upset about that stupid game where you should not have lost, just try not to let it get to your head too much.
aggu
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
38 Posts
September 04 2011 06:26 GMT
#23
brain burns an incredibly amount of energy and various chemicals when you heat it up. You just don't experience it because there are no receptors in your brain to feel it, like you feel when you work with muscles. if you really go far, you will just have distortion in cognition, vision and other senses.

it's not only glucose and oxygen, but the neuronal networks implementing the "thought processes" are supported by a second, vast network of support cells whose function is to provide a literally hundres of different types of chemicals to the neurons, neurotransmitters and the like. These supplies drain out, and they ran out fast. You can't fix it just by eating something, it may take more time; in fact, often you need to put the system offline for a while.

What happens is that many neurons just do not function properly, and you get lag: what you want to do just does not get done. This affects reaction times, vigilance, and anything that relies on massive amount of conscious neural processing. The same happens if you have a brain lesion, say, in the speech areas: you stil want to talk, but it just doesn't get done properly. That's how people who recover describe the condition.

When you automatize something by repetition, there is a direct connection from what you see into what you do. These connections are implemented by totally different neuronal systems that those which support higher cognition. There can be a really severe dysfunction in higher brain processing while the motoric skills remain intact, and of course vice versa.

Such processes drop to the outer horizons of our consciousness and can be repeated almost endlessly, assuming there some motivation to do so. All professionals who have to practice a lot use this method, mindless automaticized repetition without serious involvement. you don't need even pauses unless your physiology breaks down (which often happens, you will eventually harm your hands, eyes, back, and neck and not brain). The motivation becomes a crucial factor, as well as the conditions which allow you to not to get involved too much. If you ladder and want desperately to "get into masters" or something, the situation might not be ideal, and you might hit the wall after few games. It's just that your brain refuses to let it go and desperately wants to give its full attention to the task. Also, just "losing a game" might be cognitively and emotionally demanding experience, which prevents detachment. Emotion truly is one of those factors which keep people alerted and responsive. I am sure that the pro players ladder in a very detached and causual way, most of the time.

there are individual differences here, and many factors affect the outcome. Age, amount of sleep, personality, motivation... My sense is that what regulates this mostly is just motivation and ability to sustain senseless, detached, mechanical repetition.
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
September 04 2011 06:41 GMT
#24
Eat.

I eat between games, during games, before games, after games...

As long as you're eating, and also, once in a while get up and move around a bit, get that blood pumping man.

Don't be like those 2 Korean dudes who sat there for 48 hours straight and died

Make sure you sleep well

Drink lots of water

Also, stamina (if not from lack of food) is something that develops over time. I can play for about 12 hours straight (getting up for bathroom/food of course), but it took a few years to get that.
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
cuoongwhomy
Profile Joined March 2011
102 Posts
September 04 2011 07:44 GMT
#25
Start running a marathon runner prob has the most stamina.
Proof.
Profile Joined August 2011
535 Posts
September 04 2011 07:49 GMT
#26
Watch some streams. It usually gets me going again after half an hour or so of watching Idra stomp people xD
He who has a why to live can bear almost any how
XenoX101
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 07:58:34
September 04 2011 07:55 GMT
#27
It might have more to do with how much thinking you are doing in the game than how mentally fit you are. Most pro or high level players do most of their thinking outside the game and the game itself is simply a platform for executing their build & gameplan, their game becomes natural and instinctive in playing and reacting, rather than a streneous mental task. They already know what to do in 9/10 situations, they just need to do it.

So perhaps you are thinking too much within the game about the buildings/units/strategies you're making/doing and not simply following a set gameplan with deviations here and there. If you have a well thought out game-plan in your head from past experience you should be able to play a good deal of games without getting tired.
Sianos
Profile Joined April 2011
580 Posts
September 04 2011 08:58 GMT
#28
I think the key is, that you stress you that much. Don´t think too much about winning, just play calm and clearly think about everything that happens in the game. If you have a really intense game, just take a break for some minutes. Just chill an the couch or your bed and try to think about nothing. Then after you feel relaxed, start playing again. Try it, it will help you a bit to not hestinate you in a game.
Masayume
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Netherlands208 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 09:42:37
September 04 2011 09:40 GMT
#29
Here is the real secret:

-The human brain can only attain ~100% focus for 25-30 minutes at a time, maximum.
-A five minute break is enough to recover and be ready for another 25 mins of 100% focus

A 40 minute game is like what, 24-25 mins in real time? You can notice that even the top players start to make obvious errors once they go beyond 40 minutes ingame time in tournament games.

Edit:
Oh and have you ever had the problem when you are studying and you cannot buckle down for longer than 30 mins without losing focus? Your body tells you something aka take a small break.
Since you won't even store 15% of the info after your focus falters.
It's even a natural thing, just that most people do not know about it, which is a sad thing.

Should actually be the first thing they teach you @ school.
Balance. Enjoy the process instead of focusing on musts.
Herculix
Profile Joined May 2010
United States946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 09:49:36
September 04 2011 09:48 GMT
#30
treat it like actual exercise. eat right, pace properly, play in sets. experience always lets you play more, though

like, i've been playing games since i was 6, mass gaming since i was in middle school. i can play like 20 hours straight if i ever get the time until my body starts going numb from lack of sleep even if i ignore all the previous advice. but since i'm older now i have times in my life where i'm not gaming all day every day. i have to kind of ease into mass gaming with the tips in the first line, it helps, even if it sounds silly to treat it as seriously as real exercise
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
September 04 2011 09:55 GMT
#31
Eat something, or go for a walk
Ruyguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada988 Posts
September 04 2011 10:07 GMT
#32
For everyone talking about taking a nap after playing starcraft. Personally, I can't even sleep after playing a few games of starcraft:

1. It's stressful and gets my heart pumping

2. When I lie down and try to sleep I think about the games I played

3. I'm still thinking really, really fast. Even if I try to not think about starcraft I think about other things really fast.
Sheppard83
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany14 Posts
September 04 2011 10:09 GMT
#33
After 5 Games, go to your wife and ask for a special massage. After 5 Minutes, you should not need longer because of wasted time, its time for the next 5 games.
t0ab
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden39 Posts
September 04 2011 10:39 GMT
#34
Prepare as if youre going to run a marathon. Eat proper food, drink water etc etc.
An-Epic-Sanji
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden62 Posts
September 04 2011 10:42 GMT
#35
I would recommend you go out for a 10-15 minutes jog right before you play your ladder games. Its amazing for the brain
You have watched Daily #100 right?
CCupcakeDyran
Profile Joined January 2011
United States53 Posts
September 04 2011 10:45 GMT
#36
I'd say stay relaxed as much as possible. Music helps, even during games; I find I can play better for longer when I got my j pop/rock/death metal/ A7X blasting in my ears.

Eating and exercise with occasional naps helps too.

Staying as relaxed as possible though, is the key.
TCC: Putting lings in your mineral lines since 2010.
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
September 04 2011 11:13 GMT
#37
On September 04 2011 05:09 xlava wrote:
Eat food. I'm not even kidding, you're probably hungry. SC2 takes more out of you than most people think. Maybe take a nap. I like to take SC2 breaks when doing homework sometimes if I have the time for it, that way when I get tired of either homework or SC2, I switch, and get both my preferred amount of play time in, as well as completing my homework and studying

this is fricken genius! you may have just changed my life sir, bravo!
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Celadan
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway471 Posts
September 04 2011 11:25 GMT
#38
1. play in a clan you will be able to play more and get motivated and you will also be able to make the most out of your practice.
2. eat properly, trust me on this one.(looks like you do though)
3. practice one build and make the timings routine for each game. even if you get tired you at least will have some solid mechanics to fall back on.

These three things got me into master and i can definetly feel your frustration that you are good enough, but just can't seem to get there.
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mage36
Profile Joined May 2011
415 Posts
September 04 2011 12:00 GMT
#39
are you just mentally tired or is being physically tired also a factor? Perhaps you could lower the brightness of your screen when playing so that your eyes are less tired and you would be able to play longer.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4497 Posts
September 04 2011 12:43 GMT
#40
Keep fit, keep healthy and ladder frequently. Think of it like running, if you don't run a lot and keep yourself in a healthy state, you're not going to run for very long. The flipside, you do.
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