EPTOn April 30 2011 07:51 Dragom wrote:
Introduction: we all know the classic muta, speedling, and baneling(maybe) combo for ZvZing. Many have turned away this combo in favor of roach infestor. However, i want to tell you that muta ling is not as weak as some may think.
About this guide: this relies on the fact that Roaches are not a counter to lings, and that when individually surrounded, roaches are killed quickly.
1. Early Game(credits to all the posters who have posted this
to start off, do the +1 atk speedling build:
+ Show Spoiler +
10 Extractor Trick
11 Overlord
11 Spawning Pool(you should have one larva ready to morph for a pair of lings to kill drone scouts)
13 Extractor
15 Queen
18 evo
17 Overlord
lings and a few drones
Additional notes:
Put an ovy near the enemys ramp to see if hes going to blok it.
First 100 gas goes to +1 melee atk the next 100 goes to speed( they should finish around the same time)
Expand and get your mains 2nd gas when you send your lings
Against fast expo builds, this may end the game right then and there due to the fact that the speedlings are so overwhelmingly powerful.
Against speedling ppl, the battle will be quite lopsided and can really force your opponent to get more lings to balance the fight as you confortably expand and drone up. ( go to 2a)
Against roach ppl, try to run through the ramp if his roachs are out of position, if you cannot, camp outside his base to prevent him from expoing.
2a. Transition against ling/bling/(mutalisks or infestor)
Try to delay his natural as long as as you can(You want to get a few roachs or banelings to back your speedlings up) while you get your natural up and tech to mutalisks.
If he transitions to Roaches, go to 2b instead.
Send your mutalisks onto his base. If he has mutalisks of his own go to 3a, if he has infestors go to 3b.
2b. Transition against roach/infestor
Tech to mutas and banelings.(and get burrow too)
He will have to get a good amount of roaches to even move out of his base, however, you do not want to lose your initial speedlings, so move them back when he masses a good amount of roaches.
Note: if he doesnt seem to building a lot of roaches, be ready for some type of one base tech as you use overlords and speedlings to scout for any hidden expoes)
Now send your mutalisks, however, MICRO THEM! Move them around wildly so it will be very hard for him to aim the FGs with his infestors(believe me, aiming the FGs would be like trying to snipe a small piece of diamond on a ring from a mile away. He will be very frustrated and will spam infested Terran. So just harass another mineral line instead.
Dealing with his attacks: Now youll be wondering how speedlings can kill off a mass number of roaches. So heres the plan;
Burrow a huge amount of lings and blings at a choke, when he goes over the area, unburrow your lings and blings. This will cause his roaches to be suddenly surrounded(I have found that zerg players dont usually put their overseers as part of the attacking army, and even if he does, use your flock of mutalisks to snipe it) you should also have a a few speedlings to attack his undefended base to punish him for it. if the battle is extremely lopsided, he'll probably automatically GG. other wise, go to 3C once lategame approaches.
Notes: HARASS HIM TO DEATH!!!!!
KEEP GETTING UPGRADES FOR YOUR LINGS
Use overseer(s) so he cant burrow his roaches.
3a. muta v. muta
Your mutalisks should be able to beat his mutalisks by sheer numbers as youll have the better economy. (get upgrades for your flyers and try to stay one base ahead of him)
if its a standstill, then your cracklings and ultras will do the trick.
3b.mutaling v. ling infestor
Move your mutalisks wildly whenever you engage so that he'll just waste his FGs on nothing.
keep on teching and getting upgrades, and play normally, and you should win.
3c. End game against Roach infestor
take advantage of your fast army to continously harass him(baneling drops are viable here too!)(with your huge mutalisk flock, you can usually attack his spore crawlers head on)
You should have cracklings already, just tech to either BLs or ultras as your main force and atk when his army is out of position trying to take out a harass force.
Notes: Use your mutalisks to take out any undefended tech buildings( you can really piss him off if you kill off his roach warren, infestor pit, or ultralisk cavern)
post any objections to this build, i will try to read them
Introduction: we all know the classic muta, speedling, and baneling(maybe) combo for ZvZing. Many have turned away this combo in favor of roach infestor. However, i want to tell you that muta ling is not as weak as some may think.
About this guide: this relies on the fact that Roaches are not a counter to lings, and that when individually surrounded, roaches are killed quickly.
1. Early Game(credits to all the posters who have posted this
to start off, do the +1 atk speedling build:
+ Show Spoiler +
10 Extractor Trick
11 Overlord
11 Spawning Pool(you should have one larva ready to morph for a pair of lings to kill drone scouts)
13 Extractor
15 Queen
18 evo
17 Overlord
lings and a few drones
Additional notes:
Put an ovy near the enemys ramp to see if hes going to blok it.
First 100 gas goes to +1 melee atk the next 100 goes to speed( they should finish around the same time)
Expand and get your mains 2nd gas when you send your lings
Against fast expo builds, this may end the game right then and there due to the fact that the speedlings are so overwhelmingly powerful.
Against speedling ppl, the battle will be quite lopsided and can really force your opponent to get more lings to balance the fight as you confortably expand and drone up. ( go to 2a)
Against roach ppl, try to run through the ramp if his roachs are out of position, if you cannot, camp outside his base to prevent him from expoing.
2a. Transition against ling/bling/(mutalisks or infestor)
Try to delay his natural as long as as you can(You want to get a few roachs or banelings to back your speedlings up) while you get your natural up and tech to mutalisks.
If he transitions to Roaches, go to 2b instead.
Send your mutalisks onto his base. If he has mutalisks of his own go to 3a, if he has infestors go to 3b.
2b. Transition against roach/infestor
Tech to mutas and banelings.(and get burrow too)
He will have to get a good amount of roaches to even move out of his base, however, you do not want to lose your initial speedlings, so move them back when he masses a good amount of roaches.
Note: if he doesnt seem to building a lot of roaches, be ready for some type of one base tech as you use overlords and speedlings to scout for any hidden expoes)
Now send your mutalisks, however, MICRO THEM! Move them around wildly so it will be very hard for him to aim the FGs with his infestors(believe me, aiming the FGs would be like trying to snipe a small piece of diamond on a ring from a mile away. He will be very frustrated and will spam infested Terran. So just harass another mineral line instead.
Dealing with his attacks: Now youll be wondering how speedlings can kill off a mass number of roaches. So heres the plan;
Burrow a huge amount of lings and blings at a choke, when he goes over the area, unburrow your lings and blings. This will cause his roaches to be suddenly surrounded(I have found that zerg players dont usually put their overseers as part of the attacking army, and even if he does, use your flock of mutalisks to snipe it) you should also have a a few speedlings to attack his undefended base to punish him for it. if the battle is extremely lopsided, he'll probably automatically GG. other wise, go to 3C once lategame approaches.
Notes: HARASS HIM TO DEATH!!!!!
KEEP GETTING UPGRADES FOR YOUR LINGS
Use overseer(s) so he cant burrow his roaches.
3a. muta v. muta
Your mutalisks should be able to beat his mutalisks by sheer numbers as youll have the better economy. (get upgrades for your flyers and try to stay one base ahead of him)
if its a standstill, then your cracklings and ultras will do the trick.
3b.mutaling v. ling infestor
Move your mutalisks wildly whenever you engage so that he'll just waste his FGs on nothing.
keep on teching and getting upgrades, and play normally, and you should win.
3c. End game against Roach infestor
take advantage of your fast army to continously harass him(baneling drops are viable here too!)(with your huge mutalisk flock, you can usually attack his spore crawlers head on)
You should have cracklings already, just tech to either BLs or ultras as your main force and atk when his army is out of position trying to take out a harass force.
Notes: Use your mutalisks to take out any undefended tech buildings( you can really piss him off if you kill off his roach warren, infestor pit, or ultralisk cavern)
post any objections to this build, i will try to read them
Hey man, I just got back from a ban. I'm loving your ideas about this, but do you have any replays I could watch so that I can see how to do this properly? I like going muta ling in ZvZ, but the only problem whenever I do it, it's not good enough and all of my mutas die.
, i mean choke more as an area he almost always has to pass to get to your base(depending on the army sizes, it can be between the two towers on shakuras, or one of the lanes on metapolis
