[G] IMYongHwa Korean 3 Stalker Robo - Page 14

On March 24 2011 08:21 mizU wrote:


If he pushes up the ramp, pull probes.

On April 02 2011 17:00 truthless wrote:
You should link the games where it fails too. I think White-Ra failed twice to stop sanZenith from 4gating him during the WC for example, using the 3stalker opening. I feel like his immortal and sentries were late though, but maybe san just hit the perfect timing.

Still, it feels like it's not hard to circumvent the 3stalker build with a second probe as we saw san do.

On April 02 2011 21:05 Markwerf wrote:
What I have been trouble when doing this build is someone simply stealing gas after seeing 2 gateways go down.
Stalkers alone take very long to take down the 2nd gas and without any easy ways to pressure quickly on bigger maps the other play can just do a robo build with faster gas and be quite a bit ahead in my opinion.

When gas doesn't get stolen the build is pretty sweet though, I prefer twilight council before robo all the time though opting to go with quick blink stalker play as a followup and then expanding, using a forge + cannon if i suspect DTs.

On April 27 2011 20:04 Danglars wrote:


That's exacly what I ran into facing a mid-masters player with an 11gate version of 4warpgate. Sends 2 probes and sets up 3 warping proxy pylons where there is a little time lag between the proxy pylons finishing and warpgates ready to warp in. On maps where I couldn't see the second probe coming in ahead of time, the proxy pylons I was dpsing were canceled, and he had high-ground warpin from either his starting stalker or first unit warped in. Crucial initial timing where he's already up my ramp by the time I make a sentry to prevent that. I can post some replays of us practicing if someone doubts the efficacy of sending a hidden second probe to get up pylons unbeknown to the 3 stalkers.

I literally never won after playing 15 games with him unless I played *expecting* him to send a second probe and went off hunting for it. If this kind of play becomes widespread (I'm mid-masters), I will seriously be forced to ignore his army, kill his first probe, and go hunting for his second. There's nothing so frustrating as to see those 3 pylons go up, dpsed by my 3 stalkers, knowing I don't have the production yet to stop his first warpin from doing damage and taking my ramp.

This method of multiple proxy pylons this early might be considered a build-specific counter, because other methods of holding against 4warpgates do possess the needed units to dps down all those proxy pylons in time. So an opponent would be worse off just using this second probe as an all-encompassing method of circumventing 4gate counters since this build specifically is the only one suffering from the weakness.